yr fave extreme metal genre of the fast ones

For me it's death > grind > metalcore (which includes deathcore 'cause I love Attila and Emmure) > thrash (mostly old stuff; new bands like Warbringer, Toxic Holocaust, et al. do nothing for me). I delete black metal promos unheard.

1. Black Metal - Love lots of it from the '90s onwards, still producing cool and surprising music
2. Thrash - There's some classic stuff there but not a fan of anything past the '80s really
3. Metalcore - Not big into it but I've got time for Botch and Converge
4. Death Metal - Some bands I like in small doses, not keen on the vocals though plus it's all a bit too... knotty
5. Grindcore - Not for me at all

check out the last 3 minutes of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32iX5lbVDto

death for me. My favorite as a kid, and the only subgenre of metal I still listen to on purpose

I like some old metalcore I guess, if Botch and Bloodlet count.

black metal

death metal wins, next level extreme music

i don't really get black metal..

haven't heard much grindcore apart from some napalm death. eh.

metalcore... is converge metalcore? that band rules

oh and thrash. thrash is good.

metalcore is Converge and a bunch of shitty Converge ripoffs, correct me if I'm wrong

grindcore because it's over the quickest.

Death metal, then black, then probably a tie between grind and thrash. Not sure I know what metalcore is, but if it's stuff like Kvelertak, count me in.

Attila and Emmure

I honestly thought "metalcore" mostly referred to stuff like this. Converge are not bad (but this still wouldn't change my answer).

Grind is also the closest to other genres I enjoy like free jazz, punk rock and noize

Oh hm, are you thinking of Painkiller as a grind offshoot/fusion?

sure

Metalcore is a relatively big tent if you include subgenres like Deathcore (Emmure, Attila, After The Burial, Slice The Cake, Whitechapel, etc) and Mathcore (Botch, Dillinger Escape Plan, etc).

other than the earliest DEP, and at least a respect for bands like Car Bomb and Psyopus, I find a lot of mathcore to be a bit on the spastic side for me (which is probably the point). What about stuff like Naked City? Probably too conceptual and self-conscious. anyway, I can handle straight crust/hardcore/powerviolence, but when they try to metal up their sound, I find myself wanting better riffs/coherent songs. but I can be schooled!

Hot takes: Dillinger Escape Plan is hardcore, Naked City is jazz

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Thrash or Death. Black is generally not toe-tapping enough for my tastes.

I expected this to be death for American patriots and euros voting black but chap just had to be different ;)

thrash then death

but that's heavily weighted by nostalgia. present listening = death then black, w/ maybe a little kimchi grind pile on the side.

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this will never be settled haha