"If we get through for two minutes only, it will be aaaaaa... POLL!" - The Jam - Singles (1977-1982)

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System, Thursday, 4 May 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

There are several votes I could justify here, these songs are _meaningful_ to me in ways I think no band will match for me, even though I never really felt the Jam were my _favorite_ at any time. Just the damn songs-- so good. Going Underground wins here, though Thick as Thieves might nip it, if it were present. I was astonished how strongly Absolute Beginners (damn, Foxton) and When You're Young finished with me, I don't remember those being particularly big for me those decades ago.

we have no facts and we're voting no (Hunt3r), Thursday, 4 May 2017 04:04 (six years ago) link

1979:

But you find out life isn't like that
It's so hard to comprehend why you set up your dreams to have them smashed in the end
But you don't mind you've got time on your side
And they're never gonna make you stand in line
You're just waiting for the right time

2005:

Fly little bird when you fly
Fly little bird when you fly
Fly little bird when you fly
Fly little bird when you fly
Fly little bird when you fly

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 4 May 2017 07:53 (six years ago) link

What happened to him? I was listening to Saturday's Kids this morning, and was struck by how accurately he caught working class life in the late 70s, beyond the kitchen sink clichés, by reporting what people actually said:
Saturday's kids play on one armed bandits
they never win but that's not the point, is it?
Dip in silver paper when their pints go flat
How about that? Far out man.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 4 May 2017 08:35 (six years ago) link

I don't know. I think he was still capable of a great lyric up to Wild Wood or possibly Stanley Road... I think he either got lazy or ran out of new things to write about after that. I think 'All The Pictures On The Wall' is a great lyric, for example.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 4 May 2017 08:41 (six years ago) link

Also, if anyone were ever curious as to what The Jam would have sounded like if they hadn't split, look no further than 'There's No Drinking After You're Dead' from Weller's Heliocentric, which is probably the closest he ever got to sounding like The Jam after they split.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 4 May 2017 15:47 (six years ago) link

Toss up between Start! and Funeral Pyre for me. Not a single, but Sound Affects was the second record I ever bought (aged 7) and my favourite song was Scrape Away, but I wouldn't have had a clue what it was about.

Warren's Treat (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:08 (six years ago) link

Toss up between Start! and Funeral Pyre for me. Not a single, but Sound Affects was the second record I ever bought (aged 7) and my favourite song was Scrape Away, but I wouldn't have had a clue what it was about.

Warren's Treat (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 4 May 2017 22:09 (six years ago) link

Scrape Away has one of my favourite lines (albeit spoken), "You say power is all, it's power you need"

Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 4 May 2017 23:04 (six years ago) link

'Scrape Away' is great, IMO... one of those tracks that proved that Weller wasn't all '60s influences. 'Scrape Away' was very contemporary. 'Funeral Pyre' too.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 4 May 2017 23:59 (six years ago) link

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System, Friday, 5 May 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

Fucking hell!

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 5 May 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

Ha, "Town Called Malice" is one of my least-favorite Jam singles. I don't hate it as a song, but it always struck me as too much of a pastiche, and pastiche wasn't what made the Jam great.

Went with "The Bitterest Pill."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 5 May 2017 00:06 (six years ago) link

'Going Underground' still retains its power for me, probably because when I listen to The Jam, I usually tend to go for the studio albums rather than any compilations, so I'm far more burnt out on 'Town Called Malice' and 'That's Entertainment' ... I didn't vote for any of those.

I can't remember what I voted for, think it was 'Strange Town' ... I'm not arsed about 'Precious' not getting a vote, and I expected a poor showing for 'News of the World' as much as I like it. Can't believe 'When You're Young' didn't get a vote, though.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 5 May 2017 00:38 (six years ago) link

Surprised at Funeral Pyre, I do think it's amazing, though I'm wondering if I've ever heard the proper version? Snap says it's special edit.

we have no facts and we're voting no (Hunt3r), Friday, 5 May 2017 03:38 (six years ago) link

In a way I thought when you're young is too on the nose, but it still seems more legit than town called malice, which is goopy, if fun imo. I should've noted ilx ruined down in a tube station for me perfectly and forever.

we have no facts and we're voting no (Hunt3r), Friday, 5 May 2017 04:09 (six years ago) link

Snap'sversion is a less murky mix.

'When yr young', lost out but would have done OK on 2nd preference?

Mark G, Friday, 5 May 2017 07:15 (six years ago) link

I should have stuck to my first thought of voting for "Precious"

Jeff W, Friday, 5 May 2017 09:36 (six years ago) link

I should've noted ilx ruined down in a tube station for me perfectly and forever.

ha, ilx did the same with Eton Rifles for me -- though I dunno about ruined, to be honest, just that it was one of the first "phrases you inexplicably start singing to the melody of something else" posts, and now so many phrases that have the same cadence as "The Eton Rifles," I sing to the tune of "Eton Rifles" and there are so damn many!

sarahell, Friday, 5 May 2017 09:47 (six years ago) link

"Eating Trifles" et al

Mark G, Friday, 5 May 2017 10:23 (six years ago) link

I should've noted ilx ruined down in a tube station for me perfectly and forever.

Collateral Damage: "Down In The Tube Station At Midnight" by The Jam - What Does It Mean?

Mark G, Friday, 5 May 2017 10:25 (six years ago) link

Ha, "Town Called Malice" is one of my least-favorite Jam singles. I don't hate it as a song, but it always struck me as too much of a pastiche, and pastiche wasn't what made the Jam great.

Never liked it much either. Neither did Mark E. Smith...

In his notes accompanying the 2005 expanded version of Room To Live Daryl Easlea writes: "The intro to 'Solicitor [In Studio]'...showed again Smith's dalliance with topicality, as the title was a swipe at the UK's then-no.1 single, 'A Town Called Malice' by The Jam." [Note: this wasn't actually the case, as the number one single at the time was The Lion Sleeps Tonight by Tight Fit; The Jam's had been the previous chart topper]. Indeed, the riff which goes with the song on its second recorded performance (details opposite) veers from an imitation of The Jam's track to something resembling 'I'm Into CB'. The lyrics include the line: "I look for suits." On its first gig rendition, there was no accompanying riff, and somewhat different lyrics: "Got to get out of that city called Crappy/Now I don't like Maggie/All the money I made out of mods has made me feel guilty/A town called Crappy"

From the review on this website of the following gig: 1 April 1982 Nightmoves, Glasgow: "Second and last (?) version of "Town called Crappy" although on this version I think Mark says "Cranky" or "Crikey".... Mark laughs and says to the crowd "you don't even recognise our impersonations."

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Friday, 5 May 2017 10:58 (six years ago) link

Hahaha.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 5 May 2017 13:18 (six years ago) link

It was the closest they ever got to a US hit, though -- #31 on Billboard's "Mainstream Rock" chart, whatever the hell that is/was.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 5 May 2017 13:20 (six years ago) link

Ah right, now I understand why it won this poll.

Punnet of the Grapes (Tom D.), Friday, 5 May 2017 13:20 (six years ago) link

Also Billy Elliot, which wasn't a massive box-office success in the US, but it's safe to say it was the first/only time most of the film's American audience ever heard the Jam.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 5 May 2017 13:33 (six years ago) link

Also it's their best song.

dorsalstop, Friday, 5 May 2017 13:50 (six years ago) link

I forgot to vote.

My Body's Made of Crushed Little Evening Stars (Sund4r), Friday, 5 May 2017 13:54 (six years ago) link

haha, no problem at all with Town Called Malice as #1.
I always found those Style Council albums a snoozefest, should I revisit?

campreverb, Friday, 5 May 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link

Our Favourite Shop is a good album from start to finish, and Confessions of a Pop Group is a personal favourite of mine as the first half of the record was Weller (at that point) outside of his comfort zone and producing some really beautiful music.

On the whole, though, The Style Council were more about individual moments rather than the LP's, which is why the box set is so essential if you're a Weller fan, and the best way to approach The Style Council rather than any of their LP's.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 5 May 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link

Also it's their best song.

― dorsalstop, Friday, May 5, 2017 1:50 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

If it's the only one you've heard, sure.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 5 May 2017 18:41 (six years ago) link

The Mark E Smith jibe I remember was: "I understand you, I live in a town called m.. m.. marquis cha cha!"
Solitary vote for Absolute Beginners. I always thought it was a big dip in quality - especially after the post-punk attack of Funeral Pyre - then I played it again this week and remembered the guitar, funk that growls! plus the bass and the horns carrying the tune. That sound got tired quickly on the last album, but its perfectly balanced on that single.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Friday, 5 May 2017 19:25 (six years ago) link

lol last week while revisiting Absolute Beginners with a bass-playing friend, I wrote: "Holy shit Bruce Foxton's bass in that song is- not what I remembered. And that guitar is a fucking blast. As pop craftsmanship issue, that could be...their best song? I've probly not listened to it since 1986, so I still know it _by heart_, but as parts and arrangements, almost not at all."

we have no facts and we're voting no (Hunt3r), Friday, 5 May 2017 20:01 (six years ago) link

That town was called m..m..m..Manchester.

Mark G, Friday, 5 May 2017 22:44 (six years ago) link


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