Did you ever like Donald Trump?

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when i was a kid in new jersey we had a copy of "trump, the game",

yes!

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 May 2017 16:31 (six years ago) link

In my childhood he was omnipresent in a vague sort of way: rich, vulgar plutocrat with big-haired miserable women beside him. I remember a ref to him in Crimes and Misdemeanors.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 May 2017 16:32 (six years ago) link

The Apprentice logo with the dashing-looking profile of Donald Trump in contrast with what the dude actually looked like kinda confirmed for me that he had some kind of complex

frogbs, Thursday, 25 May 2017 16:34 (six years ago) link

as a kid in the midwest i remember his name being just shorthand for "rich dude." i never watched any of his shows or paid much attention to him. i didn't spend much time thinking about this asshole until the birther garbage really

same here. i missed all the apprentice stuff because i didn't watch much television during the 2000s, although i knew that he said "you're fired" and that people liked that, apparently. then suddenly it seemed like he was in the news all the time talking about birth certificates and i thought christ what an asshole

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 May 2017 16:35 (six years ago) link

I first learned about him from Bloom County I think. Even as an 11-year-old I could identify him as a boneheaded mega-rich brat who used garish gilded architecture and beautiful women to prop up his huge ego.

Then there was The Apprentice which I never watched but I thought the world of vapid and morally bankrupt reality TV game shows was probably the perfect fit for him

Then there was the racist right-wing conspiracy theory birther shit which pushed him firmly into "this guy is an utter piece of shit" territory for me (I didn't know about the racist stuff in his past until this past election cycle)

I liked when he was machine gunning the rest of the nominees at the first GOP debate though. I would watch that again now even knowing the apocalypse that would ensue.

If he had just stayed in showbiz I'd probably just think of him as racist bizarro Regis Philbin

sexualing healing (crüt), Thursday, 25 May 2017 16:36 (six years ago) link

did any of you get introduced to him by Doonesbury?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 May 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link

hmm maybe, altho Bloom County might also have been responsible

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 May 2017 16:41 (six years ago) link

I first learned about him from Bloom County

Came here to post this.

hardcore dilettante, Thursday, 25 May 2017 16:42 (six years ago) link

I'm guessing Fresh Prince was my introduction. I would have seen him in Home Alone 2 also, but probably not registered who he was.

jmm, Thursday, 25 May 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/Ph9x6BU.jpg

Karl Malone, Thursday, 25 May 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link

I might have been, I read a bunch of those collections in the late 90's/early 2000's when Trump was out of the spotlight. Thought it was odd that Trump was the one public figure that he didn't depict symbolically.

JoeStork, Thursday, 25 May 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link

Uh xpx5 to morbs

JoeStork, Thursday, 25 May 2017 16:49 (six years ago) link

As a non-American, I definitely had my main early awareness of him from Bloom County.

Doubtless they are toss. (sic), Thursday, 25 May 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMKFIHRpe7I

Violet Jax (Violet Jynx), Thursday, 25 May 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link

I can't imagine anyone in this world liking this guy. His wife doesn't, I am pretty sure he doesn't even like himself.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 25 May 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link

i THINK HE does nto like himself but he has drank som epotion that makes him feel good about himself anyway prb from some harry potter class

Violet Jax (Violet Jynx), Thursday, 25 May 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link

He seemed fairly affable when I first saw him on Letterman around 1984 or 85, back when I only vaguely knew his name and that he was some NY real-estate billionaire. Then I spent years growing ever more annoyed by his omnipresence while trying to ignore him, but didn't start to seriously despise him until 2011. Much of the horrible stuff he's done (housing discrimination/Central Park 5), I wasn't aware of pre-2015.

Weirdly, though, I had a dream back in mid-October in which he gave me and a co-worker a ride home from work; and I had no strong feelings pro-or-con about him, since in the dream he was just "famous businessman Donald Trump" instead of "loathsome soon-to-be-unsuccessful Presidential candidate"

Wet Pelican would provide the soundtrack (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 25 May 2017 17:45 (six years ago) link

have always been deeply repulsed by donald trump since i first became aware of him at some point in the '80s

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 May 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link

my impression of him was always as a joke version of a rich guy except he was real for some reason. as a famous figure, he seemed like a real "only in NYC" kind of guy.

nomar, Thursday, 25 May 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link

my parents didn't like him and they were usually otm about people they disliked
they didn't go around crowing about how much they hated him, but he was a thumbs-down human being
not a winner, not successful, just a boastful wealthy asshole

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 May 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link

which is to say not a threat to our existence generally speaking
at the time it seemed like the real enemies were in the white house ;_;

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 May 2017 17:57 (six years ago) link

also lol @ that facial expression

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 25 May 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link

I knew of him as an ott tacky rich a-hole, but when the Apprentice came on I was almost mesmerized by his laziness and inanity. It was like they'd built a show around a black hole of charisma. I guess he got more animated over time.

President Keyes, Thursday, 25 May 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link

was very annoyed by success/near omnipresence of The Apprentice in 2004. i was in 5th grade, everyone loved it. it sucked

flappy bird, Thursday, 25 May 2017 18:21 (six years ago) link

Also jumping on the Bloom County train.

https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/0*nkM9GBKuZpSlrV6S.png

how's life, Thursday, 25 May 2017 18:55 (six years ago) link

...yet

nomar, Thursday, 25 May 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link

"Donald looked back, even more annoying and eye catching. "Melania," do not touch me, "he replied.
They look at each other in their saturated feelings, like two small Spicerticer Spicer who mocked a visit of the fat state to jazz in the background and two stupid masters screamed.
Donald looked at the melanin with his breasts and little hands. "I feel like that!" Revealed Donald with a grateful smile.
Melania looked hungry, her sensation was flushed like wet fingers.
Then, Melania came to drink cold cold water.
FINISH"

Violet Jax (Violet Jynx), Thursday, 25 May 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link

I did find him funny in the first few Republican debates. That's it.

clemenza, Thursday, 25 May 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link

trump figures in the very end of bloom county -- he buys out the entire strip and turns it into "trump: the comic strip," w/ his own head on opus's body. occurred to me a while back that this is p much what happened to america.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 25 May 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link

i don't know that I ever liked him but I found him kind of harmlessly amusing until about 7 years ago when he started to fucking grate and then the whole birth certificate shit blew up

akm, Thursday, 25 May 2017 19:15 (six years ago) link

my parents didn't like him and they were usually otm about people they disliked
they didn't go around crowing about how much they hated him, but he was a thumbs-down human being
not a winner, not successful, just a boastful wealthy asshole

― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:56 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is almost exactly my experience, though my parents weren't always OTM about who they disliked. Until I was out of college he was just a synonym for "rich asshole". Once I actually became familiar with him as a media personality, he made my skin crawl instantly.

Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Thursday, 25 May 2017 19:30 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4otCS3FJxas

Violet Jax (Violet Jynx), Thursday, 25 May 2017 19:36 (six years ago) link

Never really liked him.

Probably knew him first from '90s tabloid/celebrity TV and stuff like this. Then one time my Dad asked me to see if Bookstop had a copy of "Art Of The Comeback" and I got really embarrassed (I lied and said they were sold out).

Later on, there was The Apprentice, which I never watched, although I will admit I was amazed at him finding a way to extend his 15 minutes yet again (remember: the show was like his third or fourth wind). My main Trump memories of the time were the Robert Smigal interview mouth bits with Conan O'Brien, which now seem pretty prescient in revealing his later irl discourse style both in interviews and Twitter.

And then the birther stuff and the twitter which both felt like increasingly desperate stabs at staying relevant way after his sell-by date. Little did we know...

to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 May 2017 19:36 (six years ago) link

my parents didn't like him and they were usually otm about people they disliked
they didn't go around crowing about how much they hated him, but he was a thumbs-down human being
not a winner, not successful, just a boastful wealthy asshole

― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:56 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is almost exactly my experience, though my parents weren't always OTM about who they disliked. Until I was out of college Trump was just a passive synonym for "rich asshole." Once I became familiar with him as a media personality, reflexive dislike turned to visceral loathing - he made my skin crawl. And this was at least half a decade before Birthergate.

Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Thursday, 25 May 2017 19:38 (six years ago) link

^Eek, sorry about the double post

Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Thursday, 25 May 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link

The Art of the Feel Up

Violet Jax (Violet Jynx), Thursday, 25 May 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link

When we were preparing to move around late '91/early '92, my grandparents and my my grandmother's brother and sister-in-law stayed at our house for about two weeks to help us get everything together. My great-aunt was a generally miserable woman who was super paranoid (there was an incident of her freaking out one morning when the mailman showed up), obsessed with death and refused to sleep in the same bed as her husband on account of his snoring. The only time that she ever cracked a smile during the entire duration of their visit is when she was hearing news about Donald Trump's divorce and marriage to Marla Maples on Entertainment Tonight or whatever. That was my first association with Donald Trump and remained, for many years, my go-to whenever I heard his name mentioned.

So, no.

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Friday, 26 May 2017 01:04 (six years ago) link

my my

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Friday, 26 May 2017 01:05 (six years ago) link

A little surprised by all the people who knew him from Bloom County but not Doonesbury. Anyway, no, he never seemed likeable, even in the 80s. frogbs otm.

Tomorrow Begat Tomorrow (Sund4r), Friday, 26 May 2017 01:13 (six years ago) link

no one ever took him seriously

ever

not to get all trenchant but srsly he represents the end of certain things here, and perhaps elsewhere unfortunately

mookieproof, Friday, 26 May 2017 01:21 (six years ago) link

I don't remember in what context I first encountered Trump but I was an adolescent and my reaction was immediate hatred. Had the same feelings towards Gene Simmons. Gross, tacky, arrogant, unapologetically selfish businessman just read as VILLAIN instinctually.

circa1916, Friday, 26 May 2017 02:17 (six years ago) link

I used to watch the early seasons of the Apprentice, but it was clear even watching that show that the guy had no idea how to be a businessman - his decisions were poorly explained and sometimes nonsensical. That was part of the fun for me, tbh. The moment I realized that our country may soon be run the same way, I was terrified. I regret that I in any way ever supported this dude

Vinnie, Friday, 26 May 2017 02:24 (six years ago) link

I used to watch the early seasons of the Apprentice, but it was clear even watching that show that the guy had no idea how to be a businessman - his decisions were poorly explained and sometimes nonsensical.

this was with copious amounts of vv generous reality show editing too

nomar, Friday, 26 May 2017 03:03 (six years ago) link

he barely even crossed my mind ever until a year or 2 ago

― ciderpress

^

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 26 May 2017 03:55 (six years ago) link

What little I knew of him I disliked immensely - I saw him as a tacky, tasteless nouveaux-riche cunt who put gold and marble everywhere and married bighaired big titted models.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 26 May 2017 04:31 (six years ago) link

With his mouth sewn shut, he still shakes his butt
'cause he's Hitler & Swayze & Trump & Travolta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq5s0KrFkmo

Vernon Locke, Friday, 26 May 2017 06:59 (six years ago) link

Up to The Apprentice, I neither liked nor disliked.

With the App, the AlSug version, his role was to point out the 'bleedin obvious' and occasionally say something that made sense. With the Trump version, well we only got the celeb version, he just seemed to 'support' whichever team members he liked, and beyond that didn't come over as likesble or charming. But then, that's not what the show is about, nut even the AlSug version has him occasionally cracking a joke or lightening the mood.

Mark G, Friday, 26 May 2017 07:02 (six years ago) link

I'm more of a dan bilzerian fan tbh but the apprentice was good back in the day

sleepingbag, Friday, 26 May 2017 07:02 (six years ago) link

i think they're just people trolling. i'm surprised there are this many active ilxors in general.

Treeship, Friday, 2 June 2017 00:04 (six years ago) link

i'm bad at estimating though

Treeship, Friday, 2 June 2017 00:04 (six years ago) link

there could be alt right lurkers i guess

nomar, Friday, 2 June 2017 00:08 (six years ago) link

BANNON

Treeship, Friday, 2 June 2017 00:12 (six years ago) link

KUSHNER

El Tomboto, Friday, 2 June 2017 00:25 (six years ago) link

we should blame all bad poll results on the alt-right lurkers

iatee, Friday, 2 June 2017 01:35 (six years ago) link

If any WH garbage person was going to lurk on ILX it would be Bannon.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 2 June 2017 08:01 (six years ago) link

Washington Post wants to talk to the three ppl who used to like Trump but no longer do

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 2 June 2017 08:05 (six years ago) link

I could imagine people liking Trump back when he'd hang with The Clintons.

See that's reason number two why he should never have been considered for Pres. It's one thing if he had 'fallen out' with them for some specific reason, but the phrase "would sell his granny" seems to apply.

Mark G, Friday, 2 June 2017 11:09 (six years ago) link

If any WH garbage person was going to lurk on ILX it would be Bannon.

for some reason i feel like stephen miller is more likely but i can't quite articulate why

heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 2 June 2017 11:15 (six years ago) link

I'm a joker
I'm a smoker
I'm a midnight toker
I sure don't want to- ah wait

The Adventures Of Whiteman (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 2 June 2017 11:18 (six years ago) link

stephen miller, the white house's pompatus of love

heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 2 June 2017 11:55 (six years ago) link

We'll only know when Trump gives a speech about the threat of radical poptimism

President Keyes, Friday, 2 June 2017 13:06 (six years ago) link

Or when he changes his name to Ornaldo Bloomps.

Trockasturm Hoar The Ramming Battle Ceraton (Old Lunch), Friday, 2 June 2017 13:09 (six years ago) link

Donlado Troomps

Wet Pelican would provide the soundtrack (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 2 June 2017 22:29 (six years ago) link

for some reason i feel like stephen miller is more likely but i can't quite articulate why

Bannon more likely to create a login and shitpost in a stupor and accidentally almost reveal himself? Miller seems like a disciplined lurker

El Tomboto, Friday, 2 June 2017 22:33 (six years ago) link

Bannon is the Goering, Miller is the Goebbels

nomar, Friday, 2 June 2017 23:18 (six years ago) link

Bannon is the father getting hammered in his den while listening to march music at top volume, Miller is the son in the bedroom quietly murdering his best friend.

Trockasturm Hoar The Ramming Battle Ceraton (Old Lunch), Friday, 2 June 2017 23:47 (six years ago) link

like i said

nomar, Friday, 2 June 2017 23:48 (six years ago) link

Which one is more likely to be a shill for The Arcana?

some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Friday, 2 June 2017 23:54 (six years ago) link

shrill prosperity, trickling down, into posterity

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 3 June 2017 00:19 (six years ago) link

Lol nomar otm

Οὖτις, Saturday, 3 June 2017 00:46 (six years ago) link

I liked him during the Republican primary debates.

“This administration is offering cakes to the fortunate few,” said Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR), Ranking Democrat on the Senate Finance Committee.

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 3 June 2017 01:46 (six years ago) link

Still like him

D'mnuchin returns (darraghmac), Saturday, 3 June 2017 07:39 (six years ago) link


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