Did you ever like Donald Trump?

He seemed fairly affable when I first saw him on Letterman around 1984 or 85, back when I only vaguely knew his name and that he was some NY real-estate billionaire. Then I spent years growing ever more annoyed by his omnipresence while trying to ignore him, but didn't start to seriously despise him until 2011. Much of the horrible stuff he's done (housing discrimination/Central Park 5), I wasn't aware of pre-2015.

Weirdly, though, I had a dream back in mid-October in which he gave me and a co-worker a ride home from work; and I had no strong feelings pro-or-con about him, since in the dream he was just "famous businessman Donald Trump" instead of "loathsome soon-to-be-unsuccessful Presidential candidate"

have always been deeply repulsed by donald trump since i first became aware of him at some point in the '80s

my impression of him was always as a joke version of a rich guy except he was real for some reason. as a famous figure, he seemed like a real "only in NYC" kind of guy.

my parents didn't like him and they were usually otm about people they disliked
they didn't go around crowing about how much they hated him, but he was a thumbs-down human being
not a winner, not successful, just a boastful wealthy asshole

which is to say not a threat to our existence generally speaking
at the time it seemed like the real enemies were in the white house ;_;

also lol @ that facial expression

I knew of him as an ott tacky rich a-hole, but when the Apprentice came on I was almost mesmerized by his laziness and inanity. It was like they'd built a show around a black hole of charisma. I guess he got more animated over time.

félix guattari in 1989:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuK3s5uWAAAFYSh.jpg

was very annoyed by success/near omnipresence of The Apprentice in 2004. i was in 5th grade, everyone loved it. it sucked

Also jumping on the Bloom County train.

https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/0*nkM9GBKuZpSlrV6S.png

...yet

"Donald looked back, even more annoying and eye catching. "Melania," do not touch me, "he replied.
They look at each other in their saturated feelings, like two small Spicerticer Spicer who mocked a visit of the fat state to jazz in the background and two stupid masters screamed.
Donald looked at the melanin with his breasts and little hands. "I feel like that!" Revealed Donald with a grateful smile.
Melania looked hungry, her sensation was flushed like wet fingers.
Then, Melania came to drink cold cold water.
FINISH"

I did find him funny in the first few Republican debates. That's it.

trump figures in the very end of bloom county -- he buys out the entire strip and turns it into "trump: the comic strip," w/ his own head on opus's body. occurred to me a while back that this is p much what happened to america.

i don't know that I ever liked him but I found him kind of harmlessly amusing until about 7 years ago when he started to fucking grate and then the whole birth certificate shit blew up

my parents didn't like him and they were usually otm about people they disliked
they didn't go around crowing about how much they hated him, but he was a thumbs-down human being
not a winner, not successful, just a boastful wealthy asshole

― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:56 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is almost exactly my experience, though my parents weren't always OTM about who they disliked. Until I was out of college he was just a synonym for "rich asshole". Once I actually became familiar with him as a media personality, he made my skin crawl instantly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4otCS3FJxas

Never really liked him.

Probably knew him first from '90s tabloid/celebrity TV and stuff like this. Then one time my Dad asked me to see if Bookstop had a copy of "Art Of The Comeback" and I got really embarrassed (I lied and said they were sold out).

Later on, there was The Apprentice, which I never watched, although I will admit I was amazed at him finding a way to extend his 15 minutes yet again (remember: the show was like his third or fourth wind). My main Trump memories of the time were the Robert Smigal interview mouth bits with Conan O'Brien, which now seem pretty prescient in revealing his later irl discourse style both in interviews and Twitter.

And then the birther stuff and the twitter which both felt like increasingly desperate stabs at staying relevant way after his sell-by date. Little did we know...

my parents didn't like him and they were usually otm about people they disliked
they didn't go around crowing about how much they hated him, but he was a thumbs-down human being
not a winner, not successful, just a boastful wealthy asshole

― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:56 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is almost exactly my experience, though my parents weren't always OTM about who they disliked. Until I was out of college Trump was just a passive synonym for "rich asshole." Once I became familiar with him as a media personality, reflexive dislike turned to visceral loathing - he made my skin crawl. And this was at least half a decade before Birthergate.

^Eek, sorry about the double post

The Art of the Feel Up

When we were preparing to move around late '91/early '92, my grandparents and my my grandmother's brother and sister-in-law stayed at our house for about two weeks to help us get everything together. My great-aunt was a generally miserable woman who was super paranoid (there was an incident of her freaking out one morning when the mailman showed up), obsessed with death and refused to sleep in the same bed as her husband on account of his snoring. The only time that she ever cracked a smile during the entire duration of their visit is when she was hearing news about Donald Trump's divorce and marriage to Marla Maples on Entertainment Tonight or whatever. That was my first association with Donald Trump and remained, for many years, my go-to whenever I heard his name mentioned.

So, no.

my my

A little surprised by all the people who knew him from Bloom County but not Doonesbury. Anyway, no, he never seemed likeable, even in the 80s. frogbs otm.

no one ever took him seriously

ever

not to get all trenchant but srsly he represents the end of certain things here, and perhaps elsewhere unfortunately

I don't remember in what context I first encountered Trump but I was an adolescent and my reaction was immediate hatred. Had the same feelings towards Gene Simmons. Gross, tacky, arrogant, unapologetically selfish businessman just read as VILLAIN instinctually.

I used to watch the early seasons of the Apprentice, but it was clear even watching that show that the guy had no idea how to be a businessman - his decisions were poorly explained and sometimes nonsensical. That was part of the fun for me, tbh. The moment I realized that our country may soon be run the same way, I was terrified. I regret that I in any way ever supported this dude

I used to watch the early seasons of the Apprentice, but it was clear even watching that show that the guy had no idea how to be a businessman - his decisions were poorly explained and sometimes nonsensical.

this was with copious amounts of vv generous reality show editing too

he barely even crossed my mind ever until a year or 2 ago

― ciderpress

^

What little I knew of him I disliked immensely - I saw him as a tacky, tasteless nouveaux-riche cunt who put gold and marble everywhere and married bighaired big titted models.

With his mouth sewn shut, he still shakes his butt
'cause he's Hitler & Swayze & Trump & Travolta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq5s0KrFkmo

Up to The Apprentice, I neither liked nor disliked.

With the App, the AlSug version, his role was to point out the 'bleedin obvious' and occasionally say something that made sense. With the Trump version, well we only got the celeb version, he just seemed to 'support' whichever team members he liked, and beyond that didn't come over as likesble or charming. But then, that's not what the show is about, nut even the AlSug version has him occasionally cracking a joke or lightening the mood.

I'm more of a dan bilzerian fan tbh but the apprentice was good back in the day

I don't think I was conscious of him before he was groundlessly attacking Obama. He just seemed to be a buffoon. What's to like?

The thing that really creeps me out is - I get a chill down my spine just thinking about it - I have had this almost physical dislike of this person since the first time I ever heard him speak. I don't know how anyone could look at this guy and hear this guy and think, that's a leader. If like me you are privileged enough not to be in the crosshairs of this administration I think you need to try and grok the mindset of a Trump voter but...I just fucking can't, I can't, he's awful and he has always been awful and I don't understand, at an instinctual, split-second response level, how you could feel otherwise.

Circa1916 is OTMFM - 10 years ago, about, I thought to myself, there are two people in the world who I just want to be blasted into space so that we don't have to fucking deal with them anymore, don't ever have to think about them again, and those people are Gene Simmons and Donald Trump.

First encountered him here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRMJ3ftUtnw&t=46s incongruously helping with the Rumbelows Cup quarter final draw on UK football show Saint and Greavsie. Can't say I gave him much thought, other than thinking that the S&G's fawning on such an obvious rich vulgar asshole reflected poorly on the wisecracking double act.

A little surprised by all the people who knew him from Bloom County but not Doonesbury. Anyway, no, he never seemed likeable, even in the 80s. frogbs otm.

― Tomorrow Begat Tomorrow (Sund4r), Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:13 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Bloom County was about a bunch of cuddly cartoon animals and Doonesbury centered on an advertising agent with a rocky marriage.

Bloom County also sadder, funnier & way better art, over time

If by 'like' you mean 'did not, at some point in the past, actively and passionately wish death or disfigurement or human centipedism on', then the answer to the question itt is yes.

If someone had said, twelve years ago, "DTrump will be pres one day", I'd have said "Oh, OK" and shrugged slightly.

After his years of denying Obama's birth certif, I'd have thought that one piece of dumbness would have proved him unfit for Presidency.

That is a good point Mark G!

I guess I was vaguely aware of him as far back as the early 90s. I think if I had to describe him back then based on what I knew it would have been something like "some rich guy who owns hotels and declared bankruptcy a couple of times". I was kind of surprised that Donald Trump was still a thing when "The Apprentice" appeared to have some achieved some level of popularity (I never watched it). Next I heard of him was the whole birth certificate thing, which seemed like some kind of desperate attempt to appear relevant. Was kind of surprised when Romney sought Trump's endorsement during the 2012 primary, thinking that associating with this guy probably has more negatives than positives. Now he's the president.

I watched season 1 of the apprentice as a kid. Was mostly struck by his hair. I think I assumed he was a more of less in on the joke celebrity grotesque. Evil Regis Philbin.

Also, someone probably posted this before but stikm

Mike Hanle y wrote this on thread Nuclear Weapons Top Trumps on board I Love Everything on Oct 3, 2001

DOnald Trump has nuclear weapons!?
Tadeusz Suchodolski wrote this on thread Nuclear Weapons Top Trumps on board I Love Everything on Oct 3, 2001

DOnald Trump has nuclear weapons!?
That's almost as scar y as letting Hanle y have nuclear weapons!

heh

interesting that this is coming from marketwatch who do not seem liberally biased

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/its-time-to-plan-an-escape-route-for-you-and-your-money-from-trumpland-2017-05-26

I'm old enough to remember Trump's late-80s emergence as an avatar of crassly domineering greed and, politics aside, I've always found the Donald personally, viscerally revolting. He'd have placed high on my "Worst Americans" ballot long before he started pushing the birther bullshit.

I wonder how many people have had a mad on for him since he pretty much single-handedly destroyed an entire football league.

Man, if only we could shake our addiction to glorifying garbage people in this country. Man.

you know, as a dickhead reality tv star he was fine but as Pres he is trouble

I don't know. He seems fine so far.

Bannon is the father getting hammered in his den while listening to march music at top volume, Miller is the son in the bedroom quietly murdering his best friend.

like i said

Which one is more likely to be a shill for The Arcana?

shrill prosperity, trickling down, into posterity

Lol nomar otm

I liked him during the Republican primary debates.

“This administration is offering cakes to the fortunate few,” said Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR), Ranking Democrat on the Senate Finance Committee.

Still like him