Did you ever like Donald Trump?

If someone had said, twelve years ago, "DTrump will be pres one day", I'd have said "Oh, OK" and shrugged slightly.

After his years of denying Obama's birth certif, I'd have thought that one piece of dumbness would have proved him unfit for Presidency.

That is a good point Mark G!

I guess I was vaguely aware of him as far back as the early 90s. I think if I had to describe him back then based on what I knew it would have been something like "some rich guy who owns hotels and declared bankruptcy a couple of times". I was kind of surprised that Donald Trump was still a thing when "The Apprentice" appeared to have some achieved some level of popularity (I never watched it). Next I heard of him was the whole birth certificate thing, which seemed like some kind of desperate attempt to appear relevant. Was kind of surprised when Romney sought Trump's endorsement during the 2012 primary, thinking that associating with this guy probably has more negatives than positives. Now he's the president.

I watched season 1 of the apprentice as a kid. Was mostly struck by his hair. I think I assumed he was a more of less in on the joke celebrity grotesque. Evil Regis Philbin.

Also, someone probably posted this before but stikm

Mike Hanle y wrote this on thread Nuclear Weapons Top Trumps on board I Love Everything on Oct 3, 2001

DOnald Trump has nuclear weapons!?
Tadeusz Suchodolski wrote this on thread Nuclear Weapons Top Trumps on board I Love Everything on Oct 3, 2001

DOnald Trump has nuclear weapons!?
That's almost as scar y as letting Hanle y have nuclear weapons!

heh

interesting that this is coming from marketwatch who do not seem liberally biased

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/its-time-to-plan-an-escape-route-for-you-and-your-money-from-trumpland-2017-05-26

I'm old enough to remember Trump's late-80s emergence as an avatar of crassly domineering greed and, politics aside, I've always found the Donald personally, viscerally revolting. He'd have placed high on my "Worst Americans" ballot long before he started pushing the birther bullshit.

I wonder how many people have had a mad on for him since he pretty much single-handedly destroyed an entire football league.

Man, if only we could shake our addiction to glorifying garbage people in this country. Man.

you know, as a dickhead reality tv star he was fine but as Pres he is trouble

I don't know. He seems fine so far.

Fine for a fuckface

so that we don't have to fucking deal with them anymore, don't ever have to think about them again, and those people are Gene Simmons and Donald Trump.

yeah all during the campaign I was just thinking "god I can't WAIT for this election to be over so I don't have to see/hear/think about this horrible person anymore". And now I'll be hearing about for a good chunk of the rest of my life, ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

I don't have a strong impression of him from living in NYC during the 80s other than people didn't take him that seriously. He got shit for tearing down the historic Bonwit Teller building but NYC was pretty desperate for real estate development and he benefited "bigly" from tax abatements and his pop's connections. I didn't pay much attention tbh, though I remember the tabloids referred to him as "Donnie" which was condescending and funny. When Spy magazine started ridiculing him later in the decade he just seemed like another of their easy targets; there were so many other pseudo-celebrities worthy of contempt in those days, spending any time thinking about Donald Trump seemed like a waste. So I didn't like or especially dislike him, he was just another rich asshole to ignore.

But to somebody who lived in New York while he was making his name, Trump as president is fucking surreal, it's like Bernie Goetz, Leona Helmsley or the Crazy Eddie voiceover guy got elected!

do even Trump's own supporters actually "like" him? (rather than liking the fact that he pisses off liberals/liking how he acts as an avatar for their various resentments and fears etc?) do Trump voters think that he'd be a fun guy to hang out with, or have over for dinner or whatever?

like, the "People look at you and they see who they want to be. They look at me and they see what they are" bit from Oliver Stone's Nixon- does anyone look at Trump and think "I wish I was that guy"?

I was around for his initial run up the charts in the 80s. I never gave him much thought - crooked, vain property developers are everywhere - and somewhere around Letterman appearance 3 or 4 I'd had enough. If anything, Gremlins 2 wasn't harsh enough.

OTOH, in 2004 I was a 39 year old office IT worker and seeing bankers, mangers, VCs, brokers, MBAs, and marketers claw, stab, and eat shit on camera all for the privilege of being gunned down by Trump made for compelling television. I could never connect with Survivor, but those first couple of seasons were some target marketing.

Weird reading this thread now: The Apprentice: schadenfreude rears its beautiful head

I spent a lot of summers in the 80s adjacent to Atlantic City and always hated casinos and cheered for Vera Coking. There were stories of DT randomly giving ludicrous tips but my dad always said they were bullshit.

I had heard his name before and knew he was powerful but never actually saw the guy until the Scottish golf course thing, and I found him repulsive instantly.

Makes no sense that the news didn't go crazy with the Molly Forbes story. Why wouldn't anyone in Scotland be able to fix her water supply?

He was not powerful. He just liked to brag about being rich.

ime he was just another new york asshole, and someone everyone hated like the mets and yankees and knicks and giants. but her emails I guess.

Also even though he isn't names in it, this quote from Snow Crash has always summed him up nicely:

he slams the button for LAVATORY GRANDE ROYALE.
Never been here before. It's like something on the top floor of a luxury high-rise casino in Atlantic City, where they put semi-retarded adults from South Philly after they've blundered into the mega-jackpot. It's got everything that a dimwitted pathological gambler would identify with luxury: gold-plated fixtures, lots of injection-molded pseudomarble, velvet drapes, and a butler.

i still have not formed an opinion of donald trump

U need more evidence imo

you never know!

Of course don weiner was a Donald Trump fan.

Xps

that look https://news.vice.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/RTX37RET-1024x683.jpg

five minutes into g7 and chill and she gives u this look

does anyone look at Trump and think "I wish I was that guy"?

definitely. this guy is kinda the ultimate manifestation of most idiots' "what I would do if I won the lottery" fantasies, isn't he? "I'd buy my own jet, live in a gold tower with my name on it, sleep with a bunch of models, and be an insufferable dick to everyone"

"In the video from 2005, Trump admits to hitting on a married woman and boasts that he can wantonly kiss women and grope their genitals because he is a "star.""

the puig's dream?

Puig (Catalan pronunciation: [putʃ]; Spanish pronunciation: [pwiɣ]) is a name of Catalan origin, meaning "hill" or "mountain."[1] Hence, in Catalan-speaking areas, it appears in the names of numerous people and geographical features

ya hit the nail on the head - bullseye

also - https://www.puig.com/en/

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8!

Who are these scoundrels!

i think they're just people trolling. i'm surprised there are this many active ilxors in general.

i'm bad at estimating though

there could be alt right lurkers i guess

BANNON

KUSHNER

we should blame all bad poll results on the alt-right lurkers

If any WH garbage person was going to lurk on ILX it would be Bannon.

Washington Post wants to talk to the three ppl who used to like Trump but no longer do

I could imagine people liking Trump back when he'd hang with The Clintons.

See that's reason number two why he should never have been considered for Pres. It's one thing if he had 'fallen out' with them for some specific reason, but the phrase "would sell his granny" seems to apply.

If any WH garbage person was going to lurk on ILX it would be Bannon.

for some reason i feel like stephen miller is more likely but i can't quite articulate why

I'm a joker
I'm a smoker
I'm a midnight toker
I sure don't want to- ah wait