Altchek's Office Alumni: 2017 New York Mets

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I just read the article about the Seaver trade in the Post ... if this happened today, would people see it differently? These days, if a team knows it can't contend this year or the next, they almost have to trade a star who's signed to a team friendly contract.

So I guess it's really about how Mets management treated their biggest ever star like shit, rather than the trade itself?

NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 16 June 2017 13:30 (six years ago) link

He was The Franchise. It would be like the O's trading Cal Jr in his prime during a down season.

He was in the last year of his contract, right?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 June 2017 14:19 (six years ago) link

only 6 home games left in the first half, that's daunting

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 June 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link

Nimmo and Reynolds are the moves.

— Marc Carig (@MarcCarig) June 16, 2017

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 June 2017 19:57 (six years ago) link

Seaver signed a two year extension with a hometown discount instead of testing free agency. I guess you could point fingers at both sides there (Seaver for being naive, Mets management for taking advantage of him) but baseball fans as a whole were on the owners' side of the free agency issue, so Seaver was in a bad place, PR-wise, when his demands for a raise became public.

In the past decade, Johan Santana and Roy Halladay were franchise pitchers who were traded in their prime for players who never panned out. Of course they weren't inner circle HOF'ers like Seaver. But comparing these kinds of things across eras is (probably) pointless anyway -- every era needs to be considered within the context of its time.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 16 June 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link

I had forgotten most of the money details. It wasn't exactly a hometown discount -- the multimillion signings (Wayne Garland being the first, as the Post article says) began just after TS signed his 3-year deal.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 16 June 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link

how a hitter like Reyes homers off a pitcher like Scherzer is a mystery of baseball

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 17 June 2017 01:25 (six years ago) link

so after this, they face Strasburg tomorrow and Kershaw Monday. Clearing my throat to declare the season done if they don't split this series.

fuckin' Salas

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 17 June 2017 01:51 (six years ago) link

I was at that dispiriting slog today. Time to cut Reyes and call up Rosario.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 18 June 2017 02:15 (six years ago) link

"Don't be surprised, be ready," whispers a 40-year-old Amed Rosario, leading the PCL with a .675/.822/1.445 line, to no one in particular.

— Chris (@tpgMets) June 15, 2017

mookieproof, Monday, 19 June 2017 13:52 (six years ago) link

Keith Hernandez last night: “Roark’s been getting his tits lit.”

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/keith-hernandez-tanner-roark-t-s-lit-article-1.3261370

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link

deGrom named NL Player of the Week btw

funny who turned out to be their best pitcher of the Sandy-Terry era, huh?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 10:55 (six years ago) link

Biceps tendinitis for Wheeler. Here are the other moves: pic.twitter.com/Q2bpP10Jkf

— Marc Carig (@MarcCarig) June 21, 2017

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 23:05 (six years ago) link

keith hernandez says his daughters are deadheads. "i like a lot of their stuff. i don't like a lot more of their stuff." prefers zappa.

— jesse jarnow (@bourgwick) June 22, 2017

mookieproof, Thursday, 22 June 2017 15:35 (six years ago) link

smdh

mookieproof, Saturday, 24 June 2017 01:55 (six years ago) link

I haven't followed his story but wtf is his deal

Karl Malone, Saturday, 24 June 2017 01:57 (six years ago) link

iirc bobby bonilla had similar issues with changing positions (all of which he was terrible at)

the mets, of course, are still paying him -- next installment in eight days!

mookieproof, Saturday, 24 June 2017 02:15 (six years ago) link

Giant pitching, The San Francisco Treat

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 24 June 2017 12:52 (six years ago) link

Since May 3rd, Curtis Granderson ranks 5th in NL in OBP (.414), 4th in SLG (.611), & 3rd in OPS (1.025) among players with at least 150 PA.

— New York Mets Stats (@NYMStats) June 26, 2017

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Monday, 26 June 2017 21:42 (six years ago) link

Granderson really has come back from the dead. Can he play shortstop?

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 29 June 2017 01:08 (six years ago) link

tbh Cabrera at 2b has been ok so far (small sample size though). Can Walker play 3B/SS? His injury is the one that bums me out the most at the moment.

Michael F Gill, Thursday, 29 June 2017 17:43 (six years ago) link

Jose Reyes moved into second on the Mets' all-time hits list last night with 1,420, passing Ed Kranepool. David Wright's record is 1,777.

— Anthony DiComo (@AnthonyDiComo) June 29, 2017

mookieproof, Thursday, 29 June 2017 19:02 (six years ago) link

rip ay

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Young_(baseball)

johnny crunch, Friday, 30 June 2017 01:32 (six years ago) link

as we said on obit thread, he was a decent pitcher screwed by lousy support.

never thought this roadtrip wd be 5-5

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Friday, 30 June 2017 02:03 (six years ago) link

Sandy Alderson on where Matt Harvey is in his recovery: "You mean where he is other than Page 6?"

— Adam Rubin (@AdamRubinMedia) June 30, 2017

sandy!

(a colleague saw harvey in the west village this morning; unsure if it was an early day or late night for him)

mookieproof, Friday, 30 June 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link

feel kinda bad for degrom -- he'll obviously be all right, but he's not even hitting arbitration until his age-30 season

mookieproof, Saturday, 1 July 2017 04:03 (six years ago) link

I was at the game tonight, and at the park at 2:30 for the SABR-Mets session.

Sandy on how far away Rosario is: "About 2500 miles."

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 July 2017 04:07 (six years ago) link

oh sandy

mookieproof, Saturday, 1 July 2017 04:16 (six years ago) link

"...That's about 4-1/2 hours on Delta."

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 1 July 2017 11:46 (six years ago) link

#HappyBobbyBoDay

mookieproof, Saturday, 1 July 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link

duda in the apple

johnny crunch, Saturday, 1 July 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link

asdrubal!

johnny crunch, Saturday, 1 July 2017 23:02 (six years ago) link

8.5 behind a team managed by Dusty, hmmmmm

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 2 July 2017 03:35 (six years ago) link

CURTIS!

They better win this fucker

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 July 2017 01:08 (six years ago) link

Nimmo: “When they said it was a collapsed lung, I was taken aback, too.”

— Marc Carig (@MarcCarig) July 8, 2017

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 July 2017 05:43 (six years ago) link

Jonathan : I’ve been having an argument with my fellow disgruntled Mets fans. I believe literally anyone other than Conforto should be on the trading block in the right deal (including Thor, assuming market return based on a full recovery). I just don’t think you get another run like 2015 out of team built around young pitching due to injury volatility. What say you?

Dave Cameron: You listen on anyone, but I don’t think tearing it down to the bones is the right call. I’d move the rentals and then take another shot next year.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link

Yeah, so much of the starting position players will be gone next year that it will feel like a new team already. As long as the pitching bounces back they should be in contention.

Michael F Gill, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 22:09 (six years ago) link

this might be a good opportunity to dump terry tho

mookieproof, Tuesday, 11 July 2017 23:26 (six years ago) link

i expect they'll give him the chance to quit in October

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 July 2017 02:07 (six years ago) link

BRUCE to the batter's eye

If they sweep the Rox we are gonna hafta pretend they're back in it.

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 15 July 2017 23:27 (six years ago) link

Lugo with a HR! So much offense so far.

Michael F Gill, Sunday, 16 July 2017 00:20 (six years ago) link

Rockies lookin like the expansion version

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 16 July 2017 00:43 (six years ago) link

oh, Yo

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 16 July 2017 16:21 (six years ago) link

With his 6th-inning HR, Lucas Duda now has 124 HR, tied with Todd Hundley for 7th in Mets history.

what a moment

mookieproof, Tuesday, 18 July 2017 02:01 (six years ago) link

such Metscasm from you lately, Bucco

Supercreditor (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 18 July 2017 03:26 (six years ago) link

Are you not entertained?! pic.twitter.com/c01TPl0hkB

— Mr. Met (@MrMet) July 19, 2017

mookieproof, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link


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