theresa may: is her project subtly machiavellian or merely cunning, baldrick-style?

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In spite of everything in this thread, she still got 42% of the popular vote, lest we forget.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Saturday, 17 June 2017 12:59 (six years ago) link

All praise to Mark, but I think the question in the title had been answered by the election - my tears when I heard the exit poll had nothing to do with her and more to do with the judgement on Corbyn. I think even if she'd won, she would have been weak - but again who else would want the job?

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 17 June 2017 21:23 (six years ago) link

After a tough couple of weeks for the British PM - what’s next? Here’s @rabbitandcoffee with ‘Theresa May and the Holy Grail’. #auspol pic.twitter.com/P7Pnb0vwMo

— Insiders ABC (@InsidersABC) June 25, 2017

i n f i n i t y (∞), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 17:58 (six years ago) link

Ni! Ni! Ni!

Heavy Doors (jed_), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link

(That's excellent)

Heavy Doors (jed_), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link

Great work. Good cameo by Buckethead as well.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 27 June 2017 19:39 (six years ago) link

Well that far exceeded expectations

quet inn tarnation (darraghmac), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 19:42 (six years ago) link

spreadin the luv

i n f i n i t y (∞), Tuesday, 27 June 2017 20:37 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

:0

mark s, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 12:42 (six years ago) link

And this is how it ends.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 October 2017 12:52 (six years ago) link

Or playing the reaaaly long game.

Chewshabadoo, Thursday, 5 October 2017 08:03 (six years ago) link

Gamely, valiantly, she battled on. The hall sensed her intent and started to get behind her. An activist near me with tattoos and purple hair clenched her fists in and out. People were sitting forward in tension.

Could the old girl make it? Could she complete the last few laps of this 18-page address and, albeit on half an engine, breast the tape? Two pages to go. One page to go. We were in the peroration. Yes! She’d done it!


Quentin Letts, who has either been huffing on the crack pipe or maybe watching Dunkirk.

calzino, Thursday, 5 October 2017 08:24 (six years ago) link

"clenched her fists in and out"

?

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 5 October 2017 08:28 (six years ago) link

the emerging tory narrative around may seems to have come from the ashes of "bloody difficult woman" and now it's as if she's a very old car which you have affection for, even though it takes a long time to start in the morning and you know you're going to get it scrapped soon, perhaps because we don't make the car in britain anymore. either that or like the queen mother, someone who you gamely respect for their role and their civic duty even as you speculate constantly about their health and their impending demise.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 5 October 2017 08:30 (six years ago) link

cruelly OTM

Shat Parp (dog latin), Thursday, 5 October 2017 08:37 (six years ago) link

In a way the coughing is a probably a handy distraction from the weak concessions to Corbyn on social housing and tuition fees. I mean the party has always been ideologically opposed to social housing ("petri-dish for Labour voters") and everyone knows it. And she had already dropped the energy bills cap once, such a weak leader making weak pledges is beyond lame!

calzino, Thursday, 5 October 2017 08:38 (six years ago) link

"I was just about to mention someone who I'd like to cough all over, and that's Jeremy Corbyn"

Shat Parp (dog latin), Thursday, 5 October 2017 08:43 (six years ago) link

hard working Brits love a charity drive, this could be a dangerous new tactic: please help Theresa and people like her

The Walter Mittyville Horror (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 October 2017 08:53 (six years ago) link

In a way the coughing is a probably a handy distraction from the weak concessions to Corbyn on social housing and tuition fees

also otm. the content of the speech was fucking dismal. weak sauce, or very thin gruel, if you're looking for some reparation of the massive public and social erosions of the last seven years. if you're a tory, you're sitting there gritting your teeth at the feeble concessions to the agenda Corbyn and the parlous state of the country generally have pushed to the forefront of policy. The speech didn't seem to be going noticeably well even before any of the incidents, in fact they seemed to elicit more support from the hall than the content, apart from that content-free guff about the free market being the greatest mechanism for innovation in history or whatever it was.

Fizzles, Thursday, 5 October 2017 08:56 (six years ago) link

I was wondering how come the housing market has got broken under the efficient, watchful gaze of the Free Market

but then a nice man from the Association of House Builders or something told me on the radio it's because of planning regulation, so it turns out the Free Market definitely still works

The Walter Mittyville Horror (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 October 2017 08:58 (six years ago) link

It's just not Free enough.

Tom's Tits Experiment (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:02 (six years ago) link

never enough freedom, if only governments would stop interfering we'd have fully-automated luxury gay space capitalism by now

The Walter Mittyville Horror (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:03 (six years ago) link

Didn't see too much of this Tory conference but enough to confirm that Tories are revolting regardless of age, sex, ethnicity etc.

Tom's Tits Experiment (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:03 (six years ago) link

never enough freedom, if only governments would stop interfering we'd have fully-automated luxury gay space capitalism by now

obligatory mention that humanity's greatest achievement, NASA's space programme, was taxpayer-funded and the failure of the free market to properly build on its promise is part of the reason we're not currently enjoying fully-automated luxury gay space capitalism now

more bemused than human (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:07 (six years ago) link

a breathless endless fountain of innovative commodities showering down on hard working people who consume as relentlessly as they work, self-sustaining and fulfilling everybody, ouroborosian jouissance eternally and infinitely acting from the same necessity from which it exists

The Walter Mittyville Horror (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:07 (six years ago) link

ELON MUSK WILL SUCCEED WHERE STOLEN TAXPAYER ROCKET MONEY FAILED

The Walter Mittyville Horror (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:08 (six years ago) link

PER USURA AD ASTRA

The Walter Mittyville Horror (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:11 (six years ago) link

luv2imagine earth's first space colony being a libertarian paradise

more bemused than human (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:11 (six years ago) link

I believe Ridley Scott has given us a glimpse of this

The Walter Mittyville Horror (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:12 (six years ago) link

extraplanetary gulags if I've got anything to do with it!

calzino, Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:13 (six years ago) link

partially-automated subsistence-level heterosexual martian libertarianism

more bemused than human (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:13 (six years ago) link

the new frontier, wagon load after wagon load of bright-eyed idealists shooting space injuns and panning for unobtainium

The Walter Mittyville Horror (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:13 (six years ago) link

believe there's a popular shooting game called Manifest Destiny about this

The Walter Mittyville Horror (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:14 (six years ago) link

I believe Ridley Scott has given us a glimpse of this

http://www.gstatic.com/tv/thumb/movieposters/14302/p14302_p_v8_ag.jpg

more bemused than human (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:15 (six years ago) link

tory cabinet as crew of the nostromo, corbyn as the alien stalking them from the shadows. theresa begins coughing at the cabinet table as hideous socialism gestates inside her

plp will eat itself (NickB), Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:25 (six years ago) link

theresa and amber rudd as thelma and louise, corbyn is the car driving them off a cliff

more bemused than human (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:30 (six years ago) link

lol i have started hearing "PENNYCORBS!" to the rhythm of "PICKLE RICK!"

mark s, Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:31 (six years ago) link

For who would bear the whips and scorns of time,
Th' oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely
The pangs of despised love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office, and the spurns
That patient merit of th' unworthy takes,
When he himself might his quietus make
With a bare Brodkin?

Tom's Tits Experiment (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:32 (six years ago) link

jesus thank god he wasn't bare tho

mark s, Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:33 (six years ago) link

xp
My partner has been reading that one with the kid. She refers to it as time for some "Dead Dad's Ghost"!

calzino, Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:35 (six years ago) link

Small, er, mercies. (xp)

Tom's Tits Experiment (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:35 (six years ago) link

a naked Jeremy Corbyn lurching towards you is probably not what a lot of people think about, right across the spectrum!

calzino, Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:39 (six years ago) link

I have been replaying the coughing bits - can report it is soothing

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 October 2017 09:47 (six years ago) link

Everything Corbyn was accused of last year (incompetence, clumsiness, distinct vulnerability to these kinds of mishaps) has happened to May this year turned up to 11. If only it mattered...

nashwan, Thursday, 5 October 2017 10:15 (six years ago) link

fun that both Calvin Harris and Florence have already come out on twitter to say they didn't authorize use of their music

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 5 October 2017 12:53 (six years ago) link

i'd assumed they were both closet tories tbf

more bemused than human (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 October 2017 12:57 (six years ago) link

should've gone with a kate bush medley

plp will eat itself (NickB), Thursday, 5 October 2017 13:03 (six years ago) link

Might or mightn't, but I think that the reaction is less about their personal politics and more about the realisation that the tory brand is super toxic right now; could imagine them playing some equivalent young people music in the Cameron days and no one commenting.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 5 October 2017 13:06 (six years ago) link

primal scream complained about cameron using 'rocks', so did keane about one of their songs iirc

plp will eat itself (NickB), Thursday, 5 October 2017 13:09 (six years ago) link

"David Cameron, stop saying that you like The Smiths, no you don't. I forbid you to like it."

mark s, Thursday, 5 October 2017 13:14 (six years ago) link


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