Stephen Colbert has a new show!

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>the Daily Show is getting waaay too slapstick.<

>a faux-O'Reilly is way better comedy material than a liberal who reacts to news clips by making funny noises and bugging his eyes out.<

You guys just hate pure comedy, right?

I've only seen the first 2, but the Savannah congressdork is one of the funnier things Colbert has ever done. That kind of sadism needs a worthy target to work, and he had one.

Making these TV-news guests look like 'good sports' is insidious. (Leslie Stahl balking at SC's perceptive comment that Nixon was in many ways to the left of John Kerry: omigod, don't rip the curtain away from our pretense...)

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:39 (eighteen years ago) link

first off, those quotes are from me and I'm one person. And as you followed my quotes with further explanation of why Colbert was great, I don't know why your questioning my love of "pure comedy" (which I hope isn't doing sloppy, overlong doubletakes at Bush quotes).

miccio (miccio), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I really hope Colbert can pull this off. I've watched the past 2 nights, and it's obvious he's still getting acquainted with spending that much sustained time on camera. I'm still loving it, though.

elmo (allocryptic), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:11 (eighteen years ago) link

The comedy is in the Bush quotes, of course; Stewart's reaction shots are there to give them breathing space and the right pacing.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link

maybe this show should be weekly, not daily

Sym Sym (sym), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link

are you kidding? with the amount of new material that's been coming out on a daily basis now?

kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:17 (eighteen years ago) link

oh wait, you're making this point about Colbert's show, not about TDS.

Hmm. I dunno.

kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, I dunno if Colbert can keep this up on a daily basis. it seems like the joke will wear thin (tho right now it is really fucking funny - wish I coulda stayed up for the new episode last night)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I watched the Colbert Report last night, and while I'm a big Steven Colbert fan and generally enjoy the Daily Show, I thought it was mostly real bad.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

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This guy made a salient point: "Even Bill O'Reilly knows that Bill O'Reilly is already a caricature, and even a fan of Colbert's preening idiot routine can start feeling claustrophobic after a whole 22 minutes of it." That simpering eunuch Aaron Brown seems more parodyable (tho I'd assume the SNL guy's version is toothless).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I saw a couple of these, and I quite liked it, but...it's really just Brass Eye Live, isn't it? Or at least it's trying to be.

JimD (JimD), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

So far I like this show better than the Daily Show.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Thing is, I've noticed that Stephen changes his persona a little, or at least reveals a little more of his actual self, during the interview segments. He's far quicker at improvising than Jon is(not too surprising, given Colbert's background in Chicago vs Jon's in stand-up), and the guests are usually far more in on the joke and apparently eager to be honest & play along.

kingfish orange creamsicle (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Nice Pere Ubu mention in tonight's show!

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 4 November 2005 05:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I have no desire to watch the Daily Show now that this is on.

miccio (miccio), Friday, 4 November 2005 07:03 (eighteen years ago) link

The Daily Show is suffering mightily from its correspondents. You just can't be in for good things when Rob Corddry is your big avian flu joke.

Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Friday, 4 November 2005 07:07 (eighteen years ago) link

they're shifting around their staff, just give it time

kingfish orange creamsicle (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 4 November 2005 07:37 (eighteen years ago) link

He's far quicker at improvising than Jon is(not too surprising, given Colbert's background in Chicago vs Jon's in stand-up), and the guests are usually far more in on the joke and apparently eager to be honest & play along.

I think this is off. Jon is extremely quick and knows how to steer and recover from awkward interview quagmires much better, though I'll admit Colbert is already very good and getting better, especially as he's burdened with having to keep in character. A bigger hurdle is that the in-character interview conceit requires not only willing but most importantly able participants(who can get in a word edgewise - the interviews I've seen reveal Colbert to be a less than generous comedy partner). I think the way to go is to book either known "bright bulbs" and/or book complete stiffs and approximate an Ali-G dynamic, anything in between kinda sucks.

tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 4 November 2005 07:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I like how every Monday on the Colbert Report brings fresh improvements. The 2nd week, when they moved the interviews to the middle segment, to break up the monotony of the all-Colbert format.

I suspect it will get better, and I suspect eventually the Daily Show will make up for its less than stellar correspondants.

I do wish the Colbert Report had less "skit" flavor. On the other hand, that Jeff Daniels interview was excellent, and very smoothly played by Colbert.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 4 November 2005 08:13 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah daily show's still fine. i'm really liking colbert report.

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm really happy that they're working their way through the districts. If they make it through all of them, it will be one of the most impressive (formal) things ever done by a comedy show.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm perfectly fine with the Colbert interview style. Yes, it requires more willingness, but I'm here for political comedy, not Meet The Press.

'Twan (miccio), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Rob Corrdry has a brother!

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link

He has for at least a month!

Dan (Nate's Been 'Around The Block') Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Awesome!

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link

>I think the way to go is to book either known "bright bulbs" and/or book complete stiffs and approximate an Ali-G dynamic<

Ali G dynamic will not work with a studio audience, and since all the guests so far seem to know who/what Colbert is.

SC did manage to mock Nixon's Last Secretary without being crude; that was good.

And at least he hasn't stuck his nose up Mike Wallace's tabloid-geezer ass the way Stewart did the other night.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link

One of the great things about the character-based anchor is that he's never going to pull a "but seriously..." which Stewart does better than most comedians, but it gets tired either way. Plus Stewart's decided to increase the funnyface and Weekend Update-isms to reaffirm his not-a-journalist status rather than tell stronger jokes. I'm more interested in how the Colbert character would react to changes in the political climate than how Stewart would. It could peter out but as Causistry notes, it could end up more formally novel than Daily Show ever was.

Does anybody know how its doing ratingswise? I'm wondering if it loses people due to the lack of liberal self-identifaction. People I know who claim to only get their news from the Daily Show (former employers even, yeesh) might not care for it.

x-post and yeah, that Wallace thing reaffirms the "but seriously..." shit is comedy death.

'Twan (miccio), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Does anybody know how its doing ratingswise?

It's been been renewed for a whole year, so I guess it must be doing okay.

KSTFUNS (Ex Leon), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Woo!

'Twan (miccio), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Stewart seems to be sinking deeper and deeper into lazy Lettermanisms.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 4 November 2005 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link

well, conan's got leno to look forward to, so what do you expect? they're not gonna give it to craig ferguson.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Usually TDS works best when the actual clips speak for themselves. Stewart's act can be fairly lazy: The funny comes from the research and editing that happens before the show goes live.

Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 4 November 2005 20:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Anybody catch the Al Sharpton interview tonight? That one got sorta ... awkward.

Lukas (lukas), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 04:52 (eighteen years ago) link

al doesn't have much of a sense of humor.

stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 04:54 (eighteen years ago) link

he was no match for a truthocution

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 04:58 (eighteen years ago) link

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stockholm cindy is in your extended network (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 04:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes, I believe that this show will survive. It's consistently funny, Stephen's character remains true to form, the set is fabulous, the graphics are engaging and, best of all, like The Daily Show, The Colbert Report attracts really good guests. He interacts with them in an intentionally different style than Jon Stewart interacts with his. For while Stweart generally treats his guests with humor and respect, Colbert is almost invariably confrontational, which gives his guests the splendid opportunity to express their views with an entuhsiastic rebuttal. As long as the guest understands the trick, he or she will invariably come out on top.

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Jeffrey Rabbit, Sunday, 20 November 2005 12:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Colbert is almost invariably confrontational, which gives his guests the splendid opportunity to express their views with an entuhsiastic rebuttal.

Yeah, I noticed that when Bob Kerrey was on this week. Colbert deliberately set up recent talking points one-by-one for Bob to knock 'em all down.

kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Sunday, 20 November 2005 19:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Jon Stewart doesn't play a character in his interviews. (SC to Tim Robbins: "What's it like working with Clint Eastwood, and why do you hate the troops?" Alas Colbert doesn't keep the mask on all the time.)

Incredibly enough, I'm convinced a significant chunk of Colbert's viewers don't get the joke, if the studio audience is any indication. His apex was the "Rosa Parks: Overrated" bit -- TRUE satire -- and they started to hoot distressingly. Idiots.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 21 November 2005 14:22 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm utterly infatuated with "better know a district."

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 04:55 (eighteen years ago) link

whoa. did thursday's show have a Descendents ref during The Word? Where it lists Stephen getting a "1430" on the Sexy Aptitude Test?

kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:10 (eighteen years ago) link

man, my guy Mark Udall was embarassing on the District segment last week. disappointing.

this show is so much fun to watch!

lemin (lemin), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:33 (eighteen years ago) link

i like this show now. at first i was like, "eh"... but now i'm like... "yeah#111~!"

the interviews still play out really freakin weird. but the WORD is generally awesome. threatdown is freakin great. etc. it's little things like the grizzly bear hate speech and stuff...

m.

msp (mspa), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I think this might be growing on me.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 05:59 (eighteen years ago) link

"i have put every part of canada on notice except nunavut."

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 06:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I noticed last week that the Toronto Raptors were on notice, which had me roffling.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 06:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Tim Robbins seemed quite entertained by it all

kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 06:51 (eighteen years ago) link

omg katrina vanden roffle is going to be the guest on my birthday!

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 07:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Jon Stewart doesn't play a character in his interviews. (SC to Tim Robbins: "What's it like working with Clint Eastwood, and why do you hate the troops?" Alas Colbert doesn't keep the mask on all the time.)
Incredibly enough, I'm convinced a significant chunk of Colbert's viewers don't get the joke, if the studio audience is any indication. His apex was the "Rosa Parks: Overrated" bit -- TRUE satire -- and they started to hoot distressingly. Idiots.

-- Dr Morbius (wjwe...) (webmail), November 21st, 2005. (Dr Morbius)

OTM. I have a pretty moderate but right wing Republican friend who I watched the Colbert Report with. For whatever reason, I pointed out to him that it was an O'Reilly satire, and he'd never thought of that before. A couple days later he told me, "You know what, you were right! That's why there's the American flags everywhere and the eagles and stuff. It also explains why I like it."

Haha.

Mickey (modestmickey), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 08:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Tim Robbins is apparently a rather humorless prick if you try to do a straight interview with him. *lack of surprise*

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:19 (eighteen years ago) link


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