Dawn of the Planet of the Apes: will it be good?

and I guess it allowed to throw more gratuitous nudity too !

ape nudity

the more I think about the new movie, the less I like it

So having just seen the trailers, this seems like another one, like "King Kong," jammed full with Vietnam-referencing imagery. Or at least Vietnam movie references. Or maybe just First Blood references.

honestly Skull Island handled the Vietnam angle better

And yet in Skull Island it was afaict totally pointless.

ape nudity

There is a steamroom scene w/ Dr Zaius and the gorilla general in Beneath, the first sequel to the original.

And yet in Skull Island it was afaict totally pointless.

I disagree! I think "pointless military adventures are bad" worked just fine as a throughline. Hell, the residents of Skull Island were basically commies.

meanwhile this movie literally has "Ape-Ocalypse Now" scrawled on a wall

In any 2017 movie about voyaging to a distant secret island to capture a giant ape, Vietnam allegories are totally superfluous.

I'll take that over 100 minutes in Ape Auschwitz.

"There is a steamroom scene w/ Dr Zaius and the gorilla general in Beneath, the first sequel to the original."

yes. sadly the conservatism of the time made them edit out the mutual ape massage scene that was in there.

"meanwhile this movie literally has "Ape-Ocalypse Now" scrawled on a wall"

that was so good. obv the references are over the top and over done but it is a movie with sentient monkeys

how subtle do you want it to be

I would watch a "The Doors" movie with apes.

love me two times baby
pnce cuz i'm an ape

about Jimbo, the ape king.

The Doors movie could only have been improved by more ape

how subtle do you want it to be

I don't need subtle, I just found that the wink-nod stuff and the extreme grimness made for a really odd and kind of offputting tonal mismatch

The Doors movie could only have been improved by more ape

honestly I would watch just about anything remade with the humans replaced w/ photorealistic apes. instant improvement

i can't wait until we can get rid of SAG completely and make all upcoming movies with CGI ape

don't even need to get rid of the acronym, it can be the Screen Apes Guild

will no one think about the live apes who are losing jobs?

why does Donald, for instance, wear a top but not a bottom ? anything else would make more sense (fully dressed, wearing only a bottom or nothing...) !

This is a good joke in Friends: something like, why does Donald wear a top but no bottoms, yet ties a towel around his waist when he gets out of the bath?

Invisible pants

Porky Pig Style

ahah, topic covered (and very good point about the towel) !

I was reading that AV Club thing with David Warner, and they mention his role in Planet of the Apes, and I kept thinking, huh, I don't remember that character at all. Then I realized I had completely forgotten the Tim Burton movie existed.