I liked jr. Postlethwaite
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 03:08 (six years ago) link
HBO ANNOUNCES CONFEDERATE, A NEW DRAMA SERIES CREATED BY DAVID BENIOFF AND D.B. WEISSSeries Will Be Executive Produced And Written By David Benioff And D.B. Weiss; Nichelle Tramble Spellman, Malcolm Spellman, Carolyn Strauss And Bernadette Caulfield Will Also Executive Produce“Game of Thrones” creators/showrunners David Benioff and D.B. Weiss will return to HBO with their new original series CONFEDERATE, it was announced today by Casey Bloys, president, HBO Programming.CONFEDERATE chronicles the events leading to the Third American Civil War. The series takes place in an alternate timeline, where the southern states have successfully seceded from the Union, giving rise to a nation in which slavery remains legal and has evolved into a modern institution. The story follows a broad swath of characters on both sides of the Mason-Dixon Demilitarized Zone — freedom fighters, slave hunters, politicians, abolitionists, journalists, the executives of a slave-holding conglomerate and the families of people in their thrall.“As the brilliant ‘Game of Thrones’ winds down to its final season, we are thrilled to be able to continue our relationship with Dan and David, knowing that any subject they take on will result in a unique and ambitious series,” said Bloys. “Their intelligent, wry and visually stunning approach to storytelling has a way of engaging an audience and taking them on an unforgettable journey. CONFEDERATE promises to be no exception, and we are honored to be adding the talented team of Nichelle and Malcolm Spellman to the mix.”“We have discussed CONFEDERATE for years, originally as a concept for a feature film,” add Benioff and Weiss. “But our experience on ‘Thrones’ has convinced us that no one provides a bigger, better storytelling canvas than HBO. There won’t be dragons or White Walkers in this series, but we are creating a world, and we couldn’t imagine better partners in world-building than Nichelle and Malcolm, who have impressed us for a long time with their wit, their imagination and their Scrabble-playing skills.”CONFEDERATE will be written and created by Benioff and Weiss, who will also serve as showrunners on the series. Partnering with them as executive producers and writers on the series will be Nichelle Tramble Spellman (“Justified,” “The Good Wife”) and Malcolm Spellman (“Empire,” the forthcoming “Foxy Brown”). Carolyn Strauss (“Game of Thrones”) and Bernadette Caulfield (“Game of Thrones,” “Big Love”) will also join as executive producers.Production will begin following the final season of “Game of Thrones.”
“Game of Thrones” creators/showrunners David Benioff and D.B. Weiss will return to HBO with their new original series CONFEDERATE, it was announced today by Casey Bloys, president, HBO Programming.
CONFEDERATE chronicles the events leading to the Third American Civil War. The series takes place in an alternate timeline, where the southern states have successfully seceded from the Union, giving rise to a nation in which slavery remains legal and has evolved into a modern institution. The story follows a broad swath of characters on both sides of the Mason-Dixon Demilitarized Zone — freedom fighters, slave hunters, politicians, abolitionists, journalists, the executives of a slave-holding conglomerate and the families of people in their thrall.
“As the brilliant ‘Game of Thrones’ winds down to its final season, we are thrilled to be able to continue our relationship with Dan and David, knowing that any subject they take on will result in a unique and ambitious series,” said Bloys. “Their intelligent, wry and visually stunning approach to storytelling has a way of engaging an audience and taking them on an unforgettable journey. CONFEDERATE promises to be no exception, and we are honored to be adding the talented team of Nichelle and Malcolm Spellman to the mix.”
“We have discussed CONFEDERATE for years, originally as a concept for a feature film,” add Benioff and Weiss. “But our experience on ‘Thrones’ has convinced us that no one provides a bigger, better storytelling canvas than HBO. There won’t be dragons or White Walkers in this series, but we are creating a world, and we couldn’t imagine better partners in world-building than Nichelle and Malcolm, who have impressed us for a long time with their wit, their imagination and their Scrabble-playing skills.”
CONFEDERATE will be written and created by Benioff and Weiss, who will also serve as showrunners on the series. Partnering with them as executive producers and writers on the series will be Nichelle Tramble Spellman (“Justified,” “The Good Wife”) and Malcolm Spellman (“Empire,” the forthcoming “Foxy Brown”). Carolyn Strauss (“Game of Thrones”) and Bernadette Caulfield (“Game of Thrones,” “Big Love”) will also join as executive producers.Production will begin following the final season of “Game of Thrones.”
― Number None, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 21:24 (six years ago) link
sounds ... problematic
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link
the thinkpieces are coming
― Number None, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link
Sounds a lot like Underground Airlines.
― DJI, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 21:38 (six years ago) link
responses to this shit on twitter are already annoying me and they wont start shooting a fucking scene until 2019
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 21:41 (six years ago) link
Sounds awful.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 21:55 (six years ago) link
on second watch it seemed more apparent that it was also there to suggest that Arya still has some humanity remaining
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, July 18, 2017
on first watch, even. in this sense, the sheeran casting works really well bc man, you just cannot wait to see this guy get gutted... and yet.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 23:12 (six years ago) link
I feel like CONFEDERATE needs to be on its own thread where we can talk shit and attract trolls without ruining this one. Thanks.
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 23:24 (six years ago) link
Otm
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 23:25 (six years ago) link
xxp- On first watch we were just expecting her to kill them tbf.
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 19 July 2017 23:25 (six years ago) link
Maybe they'll show up as dessicated corpses next season
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 19 July 2017 23:39 (six years ago) link
HBO's Weiss/Benioff GoT follow-up CONFEDERATE - Will this be just for trolls?
― Gukbe, Thursday, 20 July 2017 00:37 (six years ago) link
Wait I thought this was the last season, is it not?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 20 July 2017 01:28 (six years ago) link
this season is abbreviated and there will be one more abbreviated season next year
― Clay, Thursday, 20 July 2017 01:30 (six years ago) link
Ugh thats pointless. (yeah I know its all about making the dime)
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 20 July 2017 02:08 (six years ago) link
They've still got to decide which dragon gets to bring gendry back
― wtev, Thursday, 20 July 2017 05:53 (six years ago) link
That Sheehan scene just seemed to be showing that the average Westerosi are just trying to go along to get along being pulled by the whims of these rich lunatics running things.
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Yes to these, but since the whole ep1 was basically showing us where everyone is on the map--including showing us a bunch of actual maps--it served as an excuse for Arya to say "I'm headin' on down to King's Landing." Made for a better scene than telling the girl she spared at the poisoning something like "Tell them what you seen here, and now I'm off to King's Landing!"
― andrew m., Thursday, 20 July 2017 15:53 (six years ago) link
notes on tonight's ep
1. The Ironborn have no maesters, right? So no ravens. I would presume that at least some sailors in Yara & Theon's mutineer fleet were secret loyalists to Euron and thus he would be privy to the necessary information about their location and direction in order to commit a surprise intercept in the night, but how does that information get to him? Do the Iron Islands practice a different form of avian communication, possibly with trained pelicans or terns? Seriously though, dipshits, your brother wants you dead, keep a fucking eye out.
2. I appreciated (i.e. oh, you mother fuckers) the Nymeria fake-out. I'm okay with either Arya's interpretation (that wasn't actually Nymeria) or the "Arya is so different now that Nymeria recognized her but couldn't vote for her" version. Based on the way the Hot Pie scene played out I suspect the latter was the point, and this is a set up for when (if) Arya gets to Winterfell and realizes how distant she is from her own people.
3. I predict some people might think it's dumb or confusing that Dany starts questioning Varys and Tyrion re: loyalty only after getting all the way to Dragonstone. To me it seems obvious she wouldn't need to worry about their possible mendacity in Essos, where they have no roots, but once in Westeros, and on the eve of meeting with other Westerosi, their true allegiances should be questioned, and extra special oaths requested, etc.
4. The cut away from Sam performing, uh, "surgery" to those randoms breaking into a delicious chicken pot pie was good and disgusting.
There are a lot of nerds, and I am one of them.
― El Tomboto, Monday, 24 July 2017 02:44 (six years ago) link
I also half expected Snow to just kill littlefinger right there in the crypt. Oh well.
I am kind of wondering who Grey Worm is going to get to kill before he eats it. It better be someone that matters.
Euron is clearly going to end up being strangled by Theon after tonight.
― El Tomboto, Monday, 24 July 2017 02:49 (six years ago) link
- fire kills wights... what breathes fire?- a duck!
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 24 July 2017 03:31 (six years ago) link
rip sand snakes, you sucked
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 24 July 2017 03:32 (six years ago) link
Lol rogermexico
We regret to inform you that the duck is racist
― El Tomboto, Monday, 24 July 2017 03:39 (six years ago) link
Also should just go ahead and pour one out for the non-Drogon dragon that's going to end up a pointless victim of Chekhov's Ballista
― El Tomboto, Monday, 24 July 2017 03:43 (six years ago) link
tonight's ep made me realize I no longer care about basically anyone on this show except for samwell tarly
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 24 July 2017 04:02 (six years ago) link
oh and Varys
the only good way forward for the last season is if Dany goes mad like her father, that would rule
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 24 July 2017 04:03 (six years ago) link
I still care about the tyrion, and the starks and their affiliated scum, including the hound.
One last thought before bed: if Sam's idea works, then the Boltons, had they survived, could have turned their inclination for flaying to good ends. Such are dark ages, where generations of expertise go up in smoke at the drop of a crown.
― El Tomboto, Monday, 24 July 2017 04:21 (six years ago) link
Sea battle was muddled and badly presented
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Monday, 24 July 2017 04:21 (six years ago) link
If it had been the greatest ship-to-ship combat sequence since Master and Commander I still wouldn't have been especially concerned about the outcome for anyone involved
― El Tomboto, Monday, 24 July 2017 04:26 (six years ago) link
Tyrion is boring now
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 24 July 2017 04:46 (six years ago) link
i loled
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 24 July 2017 05:13 (six years ago) link
Varys is James Comey is my new favorite game of thrones thing.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 24 July 2017 05:23 (six years ago) link
The Ironborn have no maesters, right? So no ravens.
pretty sure the Greyjoys use(d) ravens when they were back on the Iron Islands.
According the post-episode chat with the makers, the line Arya spoke to the wolf was a reference to a comment she made to Ned back in Season 1 about how being a lady wasn't her. That the point was Nymeria isn't going to go back to being a pet because she is independent like Arya.
This episode was almost as successful as the firebombing of the Sept of Baylor last season for getting rid of bunch of extraneous characters en masse.
― sarahell, Monday, 24 July 2017 09:50 (six years ago) link
Also very excited about the prospect of Medieval anti-aircraft missiles
― sarahell, Monday, 24 July 2017 09:51 (six years ago) link
100% sure Littlefinger knows Jon's real parentage and is going to tell Sansa while he's away.
― Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Monday, 24 July 2017 11:41 (six years ago) link
That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Bran & co. had to go to a great deal of trouble to learn that information, why would they bother with all that if a conniver like Baelish has just had it in his back pocket? Makes the entire three-eyed raven quest into an unnecessary shaggy dog story.
― El Tomboto, Monday, 24 July 2017 11:53 (six years ago) link
I have no idea why Baelish is still hanging around, no one likes you fam
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 24 July 2017 11:54 (six years ago) link
an unnecessary shaggy dog story in got? say it ain't so.
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 24 July 2017 12:32 (six years ago) link
I like the spectacle, but watching them all lay intricate plans without ever thinking about the fact that Euron Greyjoy has a fleet and is mad at them, then a while later seeing their plans destroyed by a mad Euron Greyjoy, it's just so stupid.
― Frederik B, Monday, 24 July 2017 12:44 (six years ago) link
How do you know they never thought about it?
Like at a war council they're going to talk about resolving beef between Iron Island factions?
― President Keyes, Monday, 24 July 2017 13:00 (six years ago) link
i mean, in their defense they stole the iron fleet so probably had no idea euron somehow magicked up the greatest armada westeros has ever seen. if you're going to take issue maybe it ought to be with that. the show is a colander at this point, i don't understand the motivation to poke yet more holes in minor plot points. if something like that actually bothers you, which is certainly fair, then you've kept watching for at least a season too long.
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 24 July 2017 13:04 (six years ago) link
I think it's funny how poorly the pacing of the show was planned, like so much time in seasons 2 through 5 was spent crawling to one big event episode or another and now it's big ol' payoffs (and deck-clearing deaths) left right and center. the perils of respecting yr author god or w/ever
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 24 July 2017 13:07 (six years ago) link
x-post: I did stop in season four, actually, but then picked it back up to see how it resolves since GRRM can't figure out how to finish it. And yeah, you're right, the problem is with Euron all of a sudden having the fleet. But that still makes it really stupid.
― Frederik B, Monday, 24 July 2017 13:33 (six years ago) link
I'm still enjoying it or whatever, but things definitely feel a bit more boring, like we know most of the beats they're about to hit and everything feels a bit rushed and fan-service-y. And even though all these plot points have been predicted for years, the way they're being spelled out and moving so fast just feels kinda shallow. Jon saying "I just learned that guess what Dragonstone is on top of? Dragonglass!" Shocking.
― dan selzer, Monday, 24 July 2017 14:54 (six years ago) link
I thought he did a decent job trying to make that line reading sound less dumb that it looks on paper.
― El Tomboto, Monday, 24 July 2017 15:13 (six years ago) link
Drag-Gon Stone is on top of a mountain of draggin-glass
― El Tomboto, Monday, 24 July 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link
I'm still enjoying it or whatever, but things definitely feel a bit more boring, like we know most of the beats they're about to hit and everything feels a bit rushed and fan-service-y. And even though all these plot points have been predicted for years, the way they're being spelled out and moving so fast just feels kinda shallow.
Yeah, it's basically been a different show since they unkilled Jon Snow.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 24 July 2017 15:16 (six years ago) link
also Euron is Lord Nelson and Yara is Villeneuve, he clearly approached perpendicular to their fleet's line and from a position of concealment, he doesn't necessarily have a bigger fleet than them although he did have some decent time to replenish his during the time it took the kids to sail all the way to Slaver's Bay, load up half the horses in Essos and then sail back.
― El Tomboto, Monday, 24 July 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link
It's just so rushed. How many minutes of the show passed between iron islands and dorne will be a huge force and whoops not quite. They just left like 5 minutes for bisexuals and castrati laffs.
― dan selzer, Monday, 24 July 2017 15:33 (six years ago) link
Resurrection is like the ur-jump the shark. Jon Snow=JS=J ...S ...=Jesus!
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 July 2017 15:37 (six years ago) link