HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones - Thread 2. There are a lot of nerds.

Euron Greyjoy's battleship(s?) seem a bit fantastic, with their massive iron (tank-like) enclosures affixed to the lower part of the ship... how many ships are in his fleet? 1000? shit seems a bit advanced--with ultra-accurate, firebomb hurling catapults, battering ram/spear -type thing, and a deck-crushing, see-sawing gangplank... seems a bit far-fetched.

hope the next weapon is a mechanical dragon and this thing goes pacific rim

wagons were just filled with food and grain and shit. It's important because people need to eat. The gold made it to Kings Landing though, they made sure to mention that, although a lot of people seemed to have missed it.

cave paintings were stupid because of their convenience to the plot. parachuted in. oh dany doesn't believe in white walkres, oh by the way here are ancient paintings conveniently proving the existence of white walkers in a cave underneath her ancestral homeland. by the way the paintings look really fucking stupid

also the fact the scene simultaneously seemed like they might be about to have sex

Does seem pretty pointless to get them killed breaking the lines she was just going to torch anyway.

These dudes are there to fight and kill ppl. It would probably be insulting their manhood to not let them fight.

all the scenes with characters who've never met before just like shooting the shit are terrible but kind of endearingly so - like you know you're in deep when you can tolerate and even enjoy this recurring davos/missandei chit-chat

xpost it was cool when they stood on their horses and fired arrows

"my queen - imagine if you will... a slingshot, a child's toy you might say, of course, but what if that slingshot was in fact extremely huge? and capable of throwing very large rocks indeed. what then? bring it in men"

― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Monday, August 7, 2017

Fetchez la vache!

the davos/missandei chit-chat is great -- it comes off less cringe-y than the Dany/Jon scenes

lmbo at Davos remembering the difference between less and fewer because of Stannis bring pedantic like years ago

― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, August 7, 2017

+1 loved this. no one else i was watching with caught it so i felt very alone

i think one of the that lent GoT a sense of scale was the time that was allowed to elapse between various threads of the plot before they were picked up again. you'd go five episodes, episodes, a whole season or two, before something would be picked up again and allowed to bloom. as we hurtle towards the finish i feel like more and more plot threads will only have one or two episodes worth of breathing at most before they're picked up/amplified/resolved etc. introducing chekhov's dragon cannon in ep. 2 and having it used in ep.4 and the cave paintings were p. bad examples of this

also all the scenes at dragonstone make it feel like there are 5 people total living on this massive island, who while away their days handwringing about existentialism. waiting for drogot

i feel a bit conflicted about the pacing - like people keep saying it's hurtling forward but say the opening 10/15 minutes of this ep was sort of just faffing around - it's just v mixed up at the moment to me - huge leaps forward like dragons roasting people in this giant battle mixed with scenes that zoom in on a moment to try and establish character or build relationships.

in the last 2/3 seasons i felt like the formula was: big event in s1, nothing happens for 7 eps, huge final two episodes.

xpost lol

Do you think that Sansa will marry Littlefinger, get his title, then have him killed?

wagons were just filled with food and grain and shit. It's important because people need to eat. The gold made it to Kings Landing though, they made sure to mention that, although a lot of people seemed to have missed it.

― dan selzer, Monday, August 7, 2017

I def missed that. Iron Bank guy was like "we're all in for the next joint venture... as soon as the gold gets here." And afaik that was the last i heard of it. When was the arrival confirmed?

right before the attack iirc

cave paintings were stupid because of their convenience to the plot. parachuted in. oh dany doesn't believe in white walkres, oh by the way here are ancient paintings conveniently proving the existence of white walkers in a cave underneath her ancestral homeland. by the way the paintings look really fucking stupid

― 龜, Monday, August 7, 2017 3:57 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i dont think its weird at all that there might be these kinds of paintings in the caves where people would mine the one weapon that could be used against the white walkers

like, that's why jon is there in the first place

i think one of the that lent GoT a sense of scale was the time that was allowed to elapse between various threads of the plot before they were picked up again. you'd go five episodes, episodes, a whole season or two, before something would be picked up again and allowed to bloom. as we hurtle towards the finish i feel like more and more plot threads will only have one or two episodes worth of breathing at most before they're picked up/amplified/resolved etc. introducing chekhov's dragon cannon in ep. 2 and having it used in ep.4 and the cave paintings were p. bad examples of this

― 龜, Monday, August 7, 2017 4:03 PM (twenty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i agree w/ this but its also a reality of the box the show painted itself into...its all supposed to resolve in a handful of episodes! So as far as I'm concerned I'm looking for them to do the best possible job they can w/in this constricted space, and considering that face, last night's episode was strong af solid five stars

painted yourself into a box is my fav mixed metaphor

which leaves only the premise "the paintings look really fucking stupid" -- and that's idk, what should they have looked like?

xps re what happened to the gold - yeah I was wondering that too? Thought they were deliberately showing blazing wagons o'bounty

this was awesome though. Kind of surprised Arya actually turned up at Winterfell. <3 'fewer'

i forgot to say i really enjoyed sam's asshole dad and his stoic hard-on for "flogging some stragglers" or whatever, then subsequent disappointment.

cave paintings were lol, walls and walls of spirals and circles then Jon hiding a pencil behind his back as he gets to the innermost cave and points out the detailed life drawings of white walkers

this show needs to start killing principal actors at the rate of three per episode just to get all the stories under control imo; shoulda just fried the kingslayer and be done with it

i was sure we were going to see a dead dragon.

so is Dickon gay? Got some homoerotic feelings from him looking at Jamie

shoulda just friedspeared the kingslayerdany and be done with it

also, re: cave paintings

https://i.imgur.com/nwe5isa.jpg

right before the attack someone is like "the gold is safely within the walls of kings landing blah blah this is all grain and shit"

bit annoying that they made a big deal out of "as soon as the gold gets here" etc etc if it was just going to get there.

which leaves only the premise "the paintings look really fucking stupid" -- and that's idk, what should they have looked like?

― sansa riff (sarahell), Monday, August 7, 2017 5:26 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark

idk, maybe somebody on the creative team should have GIS'd petroglyphs and gone from there. as it is, it looked like a snapchat filter

the children of the forest loved to carve those dumb-ass faces into weirwood trees ... why do you think their petroglyphs would look cooler?

so is Cersei going to end up doing what Tyrion and Jon advised Dany against doing -- bringing in foreign mercenaries and alienating the native population?

the weirwood faces are hilarious and a welcome addition xp

i was hoping after Dany said, "Bend the knee!" we'd have a smash cut to Jon walking out of the cave towards Davos saying, "I told you it wouldn't work!" and a frustrated Davos tossing away a box of chalk.

bad vibes from the look sansa gave arya while she was sparring and (minor spoiler) i think sophie turner said sansa was going to do something bad this season, and wouldn't that be just the perfect twist?

― 龜, Monday, 7 August 2017 15:03 (six hours ago) Permalink

think it more likely (if Sansa really is gonna do something bad this season) that it'll turn out that Jon's decision to bend the knee was just the latest in a now extensive line of boy-Stark political cock-ups and he really does alienate all the northmen who rally instead behind Sansa w. Littlefinger whispering poison in her ear. presumably pissing Arya off something rotten into the bargain. things going way too well for the Starks rn

*assuming he bends the knee next week, obvs

sansa puts a hit out on jon snow and arya turns on sansa eh?

it was mildly fucked up learning that the cave drawings are meant to resemble the geometric patterns that we've seen the white walkers arrange dismembered bodies in, i.e. the white walkers learned about those shapes from the people of the forest, who created them

― El Tomboto, Monday, August 7, 2017 9:52 PM (forty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this gives me bad flashbacks to the spiral painting shit from Battlestar Galactica which then turned Starbuck into an omniscient god pilot, so i hope it doesn't go too far with explaining the history. I just want the White Walkers to be ice lords who can animate the dead. I don't want the Simillarion I want Lord of the Rings.

Littlefinger was actually the one behind the attempted stabbing of Bran, wasn't he? ... I bet that detail gets discovered soon.

my sense w/Sansa's look was that it had something to do w/her realizing how much Arya had changed, maybe coupled with how much Bran had changed. the look Littlefinger gave Arya from upstairs wasn't one of his "I've got this under control" stares which immediately precedes him stepping backwards and disappearing into the shadows.

wagons were just filled with food and grain and shit. It's important because people need to eat. The gold made it to Kings Landing though, they made sure to mention that, although a lot of people seemed to have missed it.

― dan selzer, Monday, August 7, 2017 9:56 PM (forty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I had thought I'd heard tehy were collecting sizable amounts of food fro the area. Just rewatched the battle scene and there seems to be a lotofit. Whole harvest or large part thereof for the area?
Occurred to me that it would be something better captured than destroyed.
Not sure if situation anything like what is happening in the North where they have been talking about collecting food together so that people will actually be able to eat in months to come.
But would surprise if it was easily replaceable.

With the Bran/Littlefinger interaction of this episode, dude's now very aware he's on borrowed time. Think Sansa's abandonment issues kicked in seeing Brianne with Arya, like hey, my personal knight is now my sister's, who is taking care of me?

it was mildly fucked up learning that the cave drawings are meant to resemble the geometric patterns that we've seen the white walkers arrange dismembered bodies in, i.e. the white walkers learned about those shapes from the people of the forest, who created them

― El Tomboto, Monday, August 7, 2017 9:52 PM (forty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o6vXQQsHzEDslap9K/giphy.gif

Destroying the food was weird since she had just complained they were taking all of it so she couldn't feed her troops. Why not destroy all the soldiers then capture the food wagons?

because dragon fire isn't exactly a precision weapon?

I totally didn't get the 'chaos is a ladder' thing but apparently that's a Littlefinger saying? When did he say that? I tend to switch off when he goes all smug tbf

She had to turn specifically to make a strafing run on the wagons, so they weren't just collateral damage to the phalanxes.

Basically, between the unnecessary charge and burning the food she could use, dragon lady appears to be a poor military strategist.