this was like Season 2 shit, it was Tyrion's dagger that he lost gambling, and LF got it as the bookmaker/moneylender, and he had the assassin use it on purpose to implicate the Lannisters in the attack so there would be war
― sansa riff (sarahell), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 00:04 (six years ago) link
The gold is inside KL but the Iron Bank doesn't have a branch there so they still have to get it to Braavos, right? I too demand a pay-off for all that "once we actually get repaid" hamming
(Also I am dubious about this iron bank-based economy)
― stet, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 00:08 (six years ago) link
sarahell otm you guys arent even watching the same show lol
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 00:12 (six years ago) link
Tombot is right, Joffrey hiring the assassin is the most prominent theory in the books - Tyrion believes this is the case but has no direct confirmation. In the show, they haven't confirmed anyone as the culprit. Possible that it was Littlefinger, but definitely not established.
― Ari (whenuweremine), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 00:17 (six years ago) link
Controversial opinion: LF is working for the Walkers
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 00:19 (six years ago) link
and Bronn is working for the weekend.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 00:20 (six years ago) link
xp - that's definitely a set up for something -- either an exciting robbery, or the Iron Bank being repaid and investing in Cersei's hiring of mercenaries, which is even more likely now that the majority of her army has just been decapitated and burnt to death.
What native military forces are left? All the midlands armies have been decimated in the previous fighting. The Tyrell forces either joined the Lannisters or were killed by them. The Northern armies are Jon's. There's Dorne ... which, might just sit this one out (lord I hope so), and ... the Knights of the Vale!
― sansa riff (sarahell), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 00:23 (six years ago) link
Tyrion believes this is the case but has no direct confirmation. In the show, they haven't confirmed anyone as the culprit.
Pretty sure there was a LF/Varys chat that confirmed this.
― sansa riff (sarahell), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 00:24 (six years ago) link
Also how the fuck would Joffrey at age 12 be able to hire an assassin? He had no money or assets.
― sansa riff (sarahell), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 00:26 (six years ago) link
he ran a lemonade stand
― 龜, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 00:27 (six years ago) link
if by lemonade stand, you mean, he was a Dom and pissed on people for money, then maybe ... but LF controlled the sex trade in Kings Landing so ...
― sansa riff (sarahell), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 00:30 (six years ago) link
I'm pretty sure the crown prince could hire an assassin.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 00:39 (six years ago) link
i'm looking through the wikis and not seeing anything that confirms that Littlefinger was the culprit.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 00:41 (six years ago) link
regardless, he did not.
― sansa riff (sarahell), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 00:41 (six years ago) link
you mean wikis that include this:
During a casual conversation at King's Landing, Tyrion made a comment about Littlefinger's elegant suit and handsome knife. Littlefinger drew his knife, glanced at it casually, as if he had never seen it before and said “Valyrian steel, and a dragonbone hilt. A trifle plain, though. It’s yours, if you would like it." Noticing the mischief in his eyes, Tyrion realized that Littlefinger was teasing him insolently about the assassin's dagger, without saying anything explicit.
― sansa riff (sarahell), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 00:44 (six years ago) link
#JoffreyDidIt #JusticeforLittlefinger
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 00:45 (six years ago) link
That's from the books wiki, for one thing
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 00:46 (six years ago) link
And it's from a long section that goes on saying Tyrion anyways becomes convinced Joffrey did it. As does Jamie.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 00:48 (six years ago) link
I thought we'd long given up differentiating books/show. Well ok, no ZombieLadyCat... THERES STILL TIME THOUGH.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 00:48 (six years ago) link
his motive being .... ?
― sansa riff (sarahell), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 00:49 (six years ago) link
Joffrey needs a motive to be an asshole? That's some Season 2 shit, as a wise lady once said.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 00:53 (six years ago) link
Why would Joffrey pay an assassin to kill someone when he doesn't even get to watch? Totally out of character.
― sansa riff (sarahell), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 00:55 (six years ago) link
Beats me but that's what people think happened in the book.
In the show, it's an open question (but it was probably Littlefinger).
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 00:58 (six years ago) link
why would joffrey have done it in the tv show? what possible reason would he have? it had nothing to do w/ him at that point
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 01:13 (six years ago) link
wasn't what's-his-name calling the shots in King's Landing at the time?
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 01:28 (six years ago) link
ok moving on
I'm betting Qyburn put his prototype Scorpion on a wagon to Highgarden and back because he has a better idea (this is a guy who is basically the neutral evil version of Samwell, he is always having some scary ideas) and that better idea is a variation on this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hwacha
Who needs to aim for the head when you can fill the sky with bolts? You say drakaris, I say MLRS.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 02:23 (six years ago) link
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, August 7, 2017 8:28 PM (fifty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
The assassination attempt took place in the north
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 02:30 (six years ago) link
Bronn laughing at Dickon was good. Just three episodes to go in this season so I imagine they will be pretty packed.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 02:49 (six years ago) link
I dont understand why theyre doing 2 short seasons. Are they still filming the last ones?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 02:55 (six years ago) link
still writing the last ones, more like
― sansa riff (sarahell), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 02:57 (six years ago) link
watched this a second time, still missed the Davos fewer / less bit, sadly, but when Davos and Jon are walking down and run into Missandei right before Theon shows back up, doesn't it seem like maybe Davos (re?)discovered the stash of good brandy on Dragonstone? He's all gregarious and a little bit of a dick!
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 02:57 (six years ago) link
definitely davos drunk in that scene. also he says "think i gotta change sides on this one" or "am i allowed to change sides?" or whatever it's a little too ferris bueller looking into the camera and talking for me
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 03:01 (six years ago) link
Yes my one criticism w this ep was davos' lines were corny
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 03:04 (six years ago) link
can't wait for him and jorah to meet up and get loaded and trade tales of withered boners for dany & missandei
― Max-Headroom-drops-a-deuce-while-shredding (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 03:06 (six years ago) link
why can't they just make out and then move to Narth
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 03:10 (six years ago) link
Davos & Jorah as a retired couple would be the best neighbors ever imo
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 03:12 (six years ago) link
Speaking of changing sides, my money's on Bronn doing just that in short order.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 03:13 (six years ago) link
yeah they seem to have set that up nicely - might not happen next week, but probably before the season is out.
We still have to get to the battle where Beric, The Hound et al. are flailing away in the snow, with full-on sword fire FX
One other thought, I look forward to the "next on..." preview cuts becoming more and more Mad Men as the final resolution approaches, i.e. giving so little plot information that they become complete non sequiturs
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 03:21 (six years ago) link
I dont understand why theyre doing 2 short seasons
it's a budget thing
― Number None, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 11:18 (six years ago) link
isn't it also a way to keep the actors under contract for basically an extra season?
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 12:34 (six years ago) link
yeah just dragging the thing out til they get those spinoffs up and running
― Number None, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 12:53 (six years ago) link
I agree with this
https://www.theringer.com/game-of-thrones/2017/8/7/16107158/game-of-thrones-spoils-of-war-meera-reed
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 13:00 (six years ago) link
She risked her life, watched her brother die, watched Hodor die, dragged Bran across a frozen tundra, drank rabbit’s blood, and all she gets is a half-hearted “thank you”?!
Didn't she make most of these points herself?
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 13:03 (six years ago) link
It's like doing a think piece on Littlefinger: "You know, when you think about it chaos is sort of like a staircase, or a ladder maybe."
― President Keyes, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 13:05 (six years ago) link
kinda cracked up when bran did the "yes, he made this thing to help me get around" bit "he calls it a 'wheeled chair'; i call it a 'hodor'"
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 13:06 (six years ago) link
but the worst part about her ordeal is that not only did Bran not seem to grasp the enormousness of what she’d sacrificed for him, neither did showrunners David Benioff and D.B. Weiss.
What a weird thing to write. They obviously appreciated it since they wrote the lack of appreciation as the text of the very scene being discussed.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 13:08 (six years ago) link
I doubt that's her last scene. Seems like a pointless article.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 13:12 (six years ago) link
i liked how sansa was like "he has... visions" - her tone and demeanour making it clear she meant "yes bran is back, but he is a weird creep now"
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 13:17 (six years ago) link
I thought all of the dialogue was shockingly bad and overwritten in this episode, but the dragonfight made up for it.
― chap, Tuesday, 8 August 2017 13:22 (six years ago) link
that p much sums up the entire seven seasons
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 8 August 2017 13:24 (six years ago) link