Beer in the new era

That's Yuengling country haha

Yeah, will pass on dat

this is really long but if you stick with it it's a great read--http://www.ctmq.org/part-2-pioneer-trailblazer-neipa/

basically, the semi-informed story of how a connecticut brewer used untappd hype and the neipa craze to get people to line up for a beer that has serious quality control probs.

I'd give up a palace
If I were a king
It's more than a palace
It's my everything
There's a queen waiting there
With a silvery crown
drinking a shandy in old Shandy Town

Great read, CAD. Thx 4 posting

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i only live like an hour away from these guys now; developing a morbid curiosity to try trailblazer

Another good deed I participated in behind the scenes today:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/taranurin/2017/08/16/after-outing-a-nazi-sympathizer-michigans-craft-beer-community-tries-to-close-down-his-bar/#74bd6853c5cd

Re: the trailblazer article, it was interesting but ultimately... I don't care? I find the whole scene a combination of fun/hilarious/fascinating and it is fun to participate, at least at certain levels. If you need to step back, by all means, go ahead. I've certainly had varying levels of participation myself. But I don't really care how you hype your beer, if you can get people in line to by it, more power to you.

i don't *care* in that it doesn't really affect me but the sociology is fascinating and i do think about stuff like this in the context of where can the scene possibly go next

also--those sludge pics!

agree with the sociology aspect. Also I missed the sludge pic.. yeah that's pretty bad.

NEIPA's are beers built for instagramming, they photograph really well. Just the sight of them sends people into a frenzy around here.

Lead Brewer @aeriicc's 1st DHB recipe debuts tomorrow (8/17) night! For Hops & Giggles is a Double Dry Hopped (DDH) IPA! #hazyipa #hazybeer pic.twitter.com/NO7ruk89tl

— Dryhop Brewers (@Dryhopchicago) August 16, 2017

Really, you don't even have to say anything, they can just post that picture and wait for people to line up at the door today.

Yeah, that shit is sub-homebrew with the particulate and residue making their way into the final product.

I recently got a couple huge boxes of Tree House and Trillium that I've been making my way through and as much as I try to roll my eyes the NEIPA as a style, these two brewers have their product so dialed in it's remarkable.

Also CAD: I finally got to try Fuzzy Baby Ducks after being ISO for several years (4?)... lol

lol i got it in may after probably the same amount of time ISO. nice beer! i was prepared to be unimpressed but it holds up reasonably well.

Founders DKML... weird! Good, too, but big booze flavor (14+%). Really makes me wonder if aging will improve it at all. Good thing I got a 4pk, it's not something I can see drinking more than one of at a time.

I am trying it tomorrow. The reviews are fairly bad for a Founder's barrel aged, but I'm hoping it will reward open hearts and minds.

I can see that if people are expecting a KBS or Backwoods Bastard, but it isn't bad, just sort of... The barrel is basically all you taste, plus a little boozy Mickey's? I'm still working my way through a bottle.

I like it better than Frootwood or Lizard of Koz, that's for sure.

I had Lizard of Koz on tap and absolutely loved it (it was less good in the bottle). I can see why it'd not be for everyone, though. Did you have Doom? I didn't love Doom, and I feel like DKML might amplify the bits I didn't love about Doom. Would love to be wrong!

Backwoods on tap was also outrageous and may have partly ruined the old 4 packs I buy at Grocery Outlet.

Didn't have Doom, and my dislike of Koz is mostly because of the berry aspect. Most fruit beers just aren't for me.

I just had the Sierra Nevada collab with Fuller's from the Beer Camp box and quite liked it (an "Atlantic style vintage ale" with plums). Am bummed, as usual, that I'll never get to have another one. All the beers I've had so far are decent to good, even the weird ones I was sure would be misfires, like the Thai iced tea one.

I hate when I order a gose or sour at a bar and it gets served in a fucking tulip glass

why?

should be served in a vacant pop-ice sleeve

http://draftmag.com/old-nation-brewery-m-43-ne-ipa/

Sign of the times.

Why do people hate NEIPAs so much? Are they just burned out on IPAs? They taste fine to me, in my limited experience just sort of slightly fruitier, slightly flatter IPAs than usual.

“I struggled for the first 18 months, really making these exacting, hard styles that we felt like no one cared about.”

or rather, styles that you can find exquisite German imports of for next to nothing at the grocery store.

I don't hate NEIPA's, I've had many delicious ones.

Why do people hate NEIPAs so much? Are they just burned out on IPAs? They taste fine to me, in my limited experience just sort of slightly fruitier, slightly flatter IPAs than usual.

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, August 22, 2017 7:16 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

by people you mean brewers who think that the public should give a fuck about their mastery of german brewing techniques or w/e

Yeah, I guess.

Like, of all the beer trends, these seem pretty harmless and tasty, especially for summer drinking.

Lagers and Pilsners these days, simpler times
Easy to get caught up in the craft beer game at the local but unrewarding so stick to basics

My last post in this thread was on the 14th about my recent love for NE IPAs; on the 15th I had an Old Nation M43 and got really sick on the 16th so whenever I think about NE IPAs now I get sick to my stomach. I honestly don't know if I will be able to drink one again. RIP NE IPA infatuation early August 2017 - mid August 2017.

Also for some reason I didn't realize Old Nation is like 10 miles from me; I live a couple blocks from M43.

I don't know if the beer actually made me sick but it's the last thing I consumed before getting violently ill; I had the same sort of illness like a month ago after having a couple of odd Shorts beers. Is there some grain or yeast or hops in the Michigan beers that I never encountered before and I'm allergic to? Or just cooincidence because I moved and have been stressed as fuck and eating like shit and out of my normal routine for two months now?

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/08/breweries-vs-fans-craft-beer-on-social-media.html

Yeah our beer is inconsistent, so what!

So many of these breweries are terrible at customer service. If you are openly hostile to the people who are paying money for your beer, you probably should get out of the business of selling things to people.

Like just apparently apologetically admit what the issue is, explain the circumstances, and then layout how you plan to address it. Some contriteness and transparency will go a long way.

Isn't Three Floyds notoriously assholely?

I hate when I order a gose or sour at a bar and it gets served in a fucking tulip glass

― calstars, Sunday, August 20, 2017 4:24 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

why?

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, August 20, 2017 4:57 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

calstars otm these beers often around ~4% ABV and it is bullshit when they serve me only 10oz for $6 or $7

one of the most annoying things a bar does is skimp on the beer by pouring everything into smaller glasses but charging the same price as a pint

“I struggled for the first 18 months, really making these exacting, hard styles that we felt like no one cared about.”

or rather, styles that you can find exquisite German imports of for next to nothing at the grocery store.

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, August 22, 2017 7:18 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'd love it if more brewers made hefeweizens, weizenbocks, altbiers tbh, the german imports are good obvioulsy but sometimes i worry they've been sitting on the shelves too long at my local stores, they look dusty over the in neglected import section

lol scofflaw dudes come off like pathetic babies.

On one hand, holy shit King Sue is good!

On the other, it's sort of indistinguishable from a bunch of Half Acre and/or Three Floyds products. Or maybe my sense of taste isn't that great.

A few bottles of KBS mysteriously just appeared on the local shop's shelves. $8.99 a bottle, which is inflated but not the end of the world. Retail was $24 a 4-pack, right?

I paid 20 iirc.

In sorta related news, I noticed Central Waters Brewhouse coffee stout was back on the shelves recently, and it's been said before itt, but that is one hell of a deal at $5 and change for a 22oz.

$24.99 per 4 pack is what I saw

I think I paid $24 for KBS. On that same topic, I heard a couple weeks ago that Founders is gonna release CBS again.

Central Waters has to be the best value in Craft beer... esp. their barrel aged series.

yeah, I think CBS will just be bombers again? still exciting, though.

DC Brau started making Heurich's Lager (this is important DC beer historical shit - the original brewery was on the site that now belongs to the Kennedy Center, and I used to walk by his mansion almost every day when I lived in Dupont) so I had to grab a six pack. It is pretty good as strong lagers go.

marcos have you tried the Long Trail Double Bag? I'm not super into altbiers but I enjoyed it quite a bit - almost got some more recently when we were in Maine but there was other local stuff I'd never tried so y'know