HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones - Thread 2. There are a lot of nerds.

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it won't happen but it would be a neat twist if the show wrapped up and the new GRRM books ... take place after the events of the show.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 August 2017 21:17 (six years ago) link

i didn't realize frederik b wrote for GQ

― Karl Malone, 21. august 2017 22:42 (thirty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not yet, but in time.

I did lol at the inclusion of 'geography'. I regretted having written geography was exciting almost immediately, but hey, I'm not alone!

Frederik B, Monday, 21 August 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link

important question! does the anti-white walker magic built into the Wall extend into the airspace? Couldn't the night king and his elite white walker commandos fly their zombie dragon over the wall and start zombifying the Westerosi?

sansa riff (sarahell), Monday, 21 August 2017 21:28 (six years ago) link

and then with no lead up she's suddenly super hot for jon snow

There's supposed to be something in pheromones that tells us when a person is too similar to us, genetically, right?

Maybe it works differently for her family.

louie mensch (milo z), Monday, 21 August 2017 21:30 (six years ago) link

i think i've read that when people don't know they're related it can manifest as physical attraction.

ryan, Monday, 21 August 2017 21:32 (six years ago) link

Important CHAINS update: On rewatch there was a jetty by the lake with some chains on it.

https://image.ibb.co/iUfjNQ/got_chains_source.jpg

nashwan, Monday, 21 August 2017 21:34 (six years ago) link

and then with no lead up she's suddenly super hot for jon snow

dude, there's been several episodes of lead up! Plus the whole common-as-fuck thing where a friend says, "hey, he's totally your type and he's way into you." and at first you're like, "no, he's totally wrong for me." and then a bit later, with the seed planted, you think, "hmmm....maybe he isn't that wrong after all."

sansa riff (sarahell), Monday, 21 August 2017 21:36 (six years ago) link

Couldn't the night king and his elite white walker commandos fly their zombie dragon over the wall and start zombifying the Westerosi?

spoiler, but that's the next episode

season 8 is the night king working to set up a representative democracy

Karl Malone, Monday, 21 August 2017 21:38 (six years ago) link

Less common when it's your nephew tbf

Number None, Monday, 21 August 2017 21:39 (six years ago) link

season 8: the night king invents literal twitter, and sends a constant stream of ravens to everyone remaining in Westeros complaining about everyone who criticizes his rule.

sansa riff (sarahell), Monday, 21 August 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link

Less common when it's your nephew tbf

― Number None, Monday, August 21, 2017 2:39 PM (fifty-three seconds ago)

Targaryens have no taboo about incest so ...?

sansa riff (sarahell), Monday, 21 August 2017 21:41 (six years ago) link

No it's only cool if it's your brother/sister

Anything else is weird

Number None, Monday, 21 August 2017 21:44 (six years ago) link

How many dragons did she actually bring? Did she leave one at home?

When Viserion gets hit and starts to dive, you briefly see Rhaegal in the background making an Irish goodbye

As an ilxor, I am uncompromising (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 August 2017 21:52 (six years ago) link

kinda apt that the dragon named after her anti-heroic piece of shit brother gets turnt

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 21 August 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link

Things the NK realizes later while in the shower...

Esprit de corpse

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Monday, 21 August 2017 22:22 (six years ago) link

dude, there's been several episodes of lead up!

forgive me, i'm remembering a time (i think prior to a girl with no name) when shit happened as a result of interaction, engagement and through natural character development and not because we gotta ship the lead characters because omg they are like so totally cool together
anyway my more important point was that dany is a shit mother

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 21 August 2017 22:34 (six years ago) link

anyway my more important point was that dany is a shit mother

Let's look at the other mothers on this show:

Catelyn Stark: dead, number of dead children: 2 of 5
Cercei Lannister: alive, number of dead children: 3 of 3
Lady Olenna: dead, number of dead children: 2 of 2 (maybe she had more, but they were already dead), number of dead grandchildren: 2 of 2 (maybe she had more, but they were already dead)
Lysa Arynn: dead, number of dead children: 0 of 1
Lady Tarly: alive, number of dead children: 1 of 3
Gilly: alive, number of dead children: 0 of 1

Dany's not looking so bad in comparison

sansa riff (sarahell), Monday, 21 August 2017 22:52 (six years ago) link

Now both Dany and Lady Tarly are both alive, and at 1 of 3 in the dead children department, but Dany didn't essentially disown one of her remaining 2 children, as Lady Tarly did with Sam. So really, Dany's at the top of list with only Gilly ahead of her, and Gilly's child isn't even able to walk yet. So, I would conclude based on these facts, that Dany is a pretty solid mom.

sansa riff (sarahell), Monday, 21 August 2017 23:00 (six years ago) link

kinda apt that the dragon named after her anti-heroic piece of shit brother gets turnt

― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, August 22, 2017 8:0

*cough*
And yes I'd remembered someone here'd predected dragon-wighting and I'd agreed so it was little suprise to me. A neat touch perhaps that it was Viserion it happened to? Revenge of the dead brother. haha.

― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, August 21, 2017 2:01 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 21 August 2017 23:02 (six years ago) link

*cough* otm!

sansa riff (sarahell), Monday, 21 August 2017 23:02 (six years ago) link

:)

Re lady Tarly - was it really her doing turning Sam away, or Lord Tarlys? Its a foggy memory but when Samwell went back to visit them briefly his mother at least seemed sympathetic and cowed, but it was some time back and I cant recall.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 21 August 2017 23:07 (six years ago) link

you were right, she pretty much let her husband get rid of her son, but doesn't that make her a "bad mum"? That she didn't defend her child?

sansa riff (sarahell), Monday, 21 August 2017 23:09 (six years ago) link

Compared to Dany, who was pressured to sell off one of her children, but she had him kill a bunch of horrible people instead, and kept her child.

sansa riff (sarahell), Monday, 21 August 2017 23:10 (six years ago) link

oh and I forgot two of the most shit moms on the show:

Mrs. Stannis Barratheon: dead, number of dead children 1 of 1
Ellaria Sand: alive, number of dead children 4 of 4

sansa riff (sarahell), Monday, 21 August 2017 23:28 (six years ago) link

Dany got involved with witchcraft while pregnant, which turned her unborn child into a lizard, iirc.

Frederik B, Monday, 21 August 2017 23:29 (six years ago) link

geez, won't somebody think of the unborn babies!

sansa riff (sarahell), Monday, 21 August 2017 23:31 (six years ago) link

Mrs Stannis is the worst of the lot, burning her damn kid at the stake, wth.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 21 August 2017 23:35 (six years ago) link

well, she hung herself afterwards, so there's that

sansa riff (sarahell), Monday, 21 August 2017 23:40 (six years ago) link

Let's look at the other mothers on this show:

obvs my point is not how she stacks up against Ms. barrathathaththahathaeon but that after multiple seasons of "these dragons are my CHILDREN" that she had zero reaction to one of them being unnecessarily murdered
and when jon's all like "damn girl i feel bad about getting ur dragon killed, totally wish i had never done this"
she's like "shhh don't even give it a second thought, had to see it to believe it, i honestly can't tell one dragon from the other anyway and they're very expensive to keep up what with all the sheep"

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 21 August 2017 23:42 (six years ago) link

she had zero reaction to one of them being unnecessarily murdered

wait what? how are you drawing that conclusion?

sansa riff (sarahell), Monday, 21 August 2017 23:44 (six years ago) link

because emilia clarke's "my baby is dead" face and her "this guy won't bend the knee" face looks the same

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 21 August 2017 23:46 (six years ago) link

I don't consider Danaerys to be a Real Mom :o

nashwan, Monday, 21 August 2017 23:47 (six years ago) link

basically if you don't act exactly like the dad from Broadchurch then you as a parent just DON'T CARE

As an ilxor, I am uncompromising (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 August 2017 23:54 (six years ago) link

i just hope my mom looks a little more upset than that when i'm killed by an undead lord

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 21 August 2017 23:57 (six years ago) link

The dragon that actually laid the eggs Drogon and co hatched from finally returns next week for a fatal custody battle.

nashwan, Monday, 21 August 2017 23:59 (six years ago) link

i just hope my mom looks a little more upset than that when i'm killed by an undead lord

what if she tries to keep a brave face to the public, and makes polite small talk about politics, food and the weather? Would that make her a bad mom?

sansa riff (sarahell), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

are the public in this case a 30 million overnight viewership, a stadium full of zombies, a few dead redshirts, a ragtag bunch of mercenaries and wight-in-a-bag or like my uncle gene? Because okay if latter but if former i want some emotion.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 00:05 (six years ago) link

What about Jeff the IT guy?

sansa riff (sarahell), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 00:10 (six years ago) link

filing him under "dead redshirt"

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 00:11 (six years ago) link

http://s1.r29static.com//bin/entry/191/340x408/1838048/image.png

"It’s a heartbreak," she told Entertainment Weekly. "Not only losing it but having that being given to the other side. "My dragon could not have died for nothing, so this is now so important," she continued. "For the first time, you’re starting to see her defenses broken."

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 00:13 (six years ago) link

so much pathos

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 00:13 (six years ago) link

let's assume Jeff is a co-worker of your mom that reports to her, and she is the first female manager at the company they work for.

sansa riff (sarahell), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 00:14 (six years ago) link

my mom is retired so this is not a scenario that i'm ever going to have to worry about.
http://i.onionstatic.com/avclub/5340/56/16x9/960.jpg

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 00:16 (six years ago) link

or, let's say, as one of those popular commentary blogs does, Dany is Hillary Clinton, and she's talking to her potential Secretary of Defense, would she be all blubbery about it, or would she want to remain composed and tough in order to continue to keep the confidence and respect of the guy in question?

sansa riff (sarahell), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 00:18 (six years ago) link

if one of hillary clinton's dragons died and she didn't tear up a little, i would be a little disturbed by it
i feel pretty sure that clinton would have deployed those dragons considerably more intelligently.
thus far dany has taken these things out for a spin twice; the first time she got one of them stuck in the neck with a giant crossbow bolt and the second time one of the giant unkillable super creatures got killed in one hit. she doesn't seem very good at this.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 00:21 (six years ago) link

maybe hire a wartime consigliere or get one of those robot jockey things that the UAE guys use to race camels
just know your limitations is all i'm saying

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 00:23 (six years ago) link

Dude, you are basing this off of her conversation with Jon, which is a different dynamic. We don't know whether she bawled her eyes out in the privacy of her room, punched a pillow, drew a picture of her dead dragonchild to later have made into a locket that she will wear close to her heart once she gets back to civilization.

sansa riff (sarahell), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 00:25 (six years ago) link

Also, if she were a man, and some enemy force killed one of her children, would she be teary and sad, or would she/he be steely-eyed, "I will join with you to decimate the motherfuckers that murdered my son!" ... in the context of Westeros, and not some contemporary First World cultural norms.

sansa riff (sarahell), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 00:29 (six years ago) link

I agree with the thinking that most of this season's problems are a result of the showrunners trying to cram two 1500 page books worth of stuff into two shortened seasons

My question is: why did they feel the need to rush the ending? Rapidly rising actor salaries? Showrunners getting bored?

I would think that HBO would want to milk the cash cow for as long as they could, so what gives?

rock and roll tucci coo (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 01:01 (six years ago) link

eh, negotiating with the principal actors for another couple of seasons of work could turn that cash cow into a bear fairly quickly

As an ilxor, I am uncompromising (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 01:41 (six years ago) link


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