i notice the challenge is unmet!
btw why are you awake? :)
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 07:37 (six years ago) link
Jaime and Oleanna at Highgarden was probably the best of the 'talking' scenes so far this season.
― AlanSmithee, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 08:20 (six years ago) link
So, we're Simpsons-ing this show now are we.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 08:27 (six years ago) link
This show was better when that guy used to say hodor
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 08:52 (six years ago) link
I was just late nite fartposting, sorry. btw why am I still awake :(
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 12:20 (six years ago) link
admittedly looking forward to the PS4 action adventure based on the last couple seasons. 15,000 pieces of gold unlocks Beric's flame sword
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 08:28
I hope not. Recently saw gameplay trailers for a new Lord Of The Rings game complete with dialogue determined to make the experience mundane. Made me sad even after all the insane merchandising LotR has had.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 12:36 (six years ago) link
I dunno, maybe dragons are just really fast, who cares.
Yeah is it concievable they could go as fast as planes? In which case the flight would've taken 5-6 hours, based on GRRM saying Westeros is about the size of South America. There have been far more egregious plot holes.
― chap, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 12:41 (six years ago) link
Maybe they exude a forcefield that would protect the rider from the resulting G Force or whatever you call the pressure resulting from air hitting you in the face at that speed.
& I thought that everybody up to thhe invention of the steam train thought that there were limits to how fast you could travel healthily.
― Stevolende, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 12:49 (six years ago) link
People are speculating that GRRM is pretty cold on what's happening this season. Probably spending all his time revising to make sure all character mileage and travel expenses are documented.
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 12:54 (six years ago) link
Game of Soup and Bedpans
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 12:59 (six years ago) link
I thought that everybody up to thhe invention of the steam train thought that there were limits to how fast you could travel healthily.
Possibly in our world. Doesn't mean the same is true in Westeros.
― chap, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 13:07 (six years ago) link
Yeah is it concievable they could go as fast as planes?
No, it's not inconceivable. But they would have to show it. Anything is possible if we just say 'a wizard did it'. But that makes a worse show.
― Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 13:09 (six years ago) link
We're not saying 'a wizard dd it'. We're saying, 'these dragons, which have already been shown as being able to fly quite fast, can fly really fast'.
― chap, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 13:59 (six years ago) link
the dragons can fly backward in time, like in the second 'dragonlance' trilogy maybe
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:01 (six years ago) link
Westeros has a high altitude super fast air-current which flows in a narrow loop from north to south and back again. It's called Jon's Raven's News Round.
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:04 (six years ago) link
Did we ever get any hint at how fast the ravens travel? Messages sent by Raven always seemed to get around pretty fast. I would assume a dragon is faster.
― silverfish, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:15 (six years ago) link
dragon do a lot more circling and showing off
― President Keyes, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:16 (six years ago) link
i'll post this again
https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/6u75t3/lets_do_the_math_on_how_long_it_would_take_a/
― dan selzer, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:17 (six years ago) link
Damn I forgot about the raven having to get to Dragonstone too. I contend a dragon would travel much faster than a raven though.
― chap, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:27 (six years ago) link
i am v cool with ppl not caring about how dumb it was, but ppl trying to prove it wasn't dumb is fucking ridiculous
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:33 (six years ago) link
I think it was dumb, but I think it can be waved away just about convincingly. And I enjoy wasting time figuring out the speed of fictional animals and stuff. Other things bother me far more about GoT at the moment, eg terrible dialogue and really weird pacing.
― chap, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:35 (six years ago) link
yeah, all the logistics of these things can be explained away and I don't think the show necessarily has to explain it to the viewer.
What bothers me way more is a bunch of characters who are supposed to be smart making a series of dumb decisions just so the show can introduce an ice dragon. This is the kind of stuff that did not happen in seasons 1-4.
― silverfish, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:40 (six years ago) link
I mean, above all my issue is that the dialogue has gotten fucking awful, or I've only just started noticing that it's awful. The opening 10 mins of Sunday's ep were painful.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link
probably just remaking the same points but i think point is the show taught us to care about these minutiae for 4-5 seasons then told us to piss in the wind for the last 2
― 龜, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:47 (six years ago) link
going to beautifully harmonious with grrm dying and some hack fantasy jobber finishing the books
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:53 (six years ago) link
is that the view on how wheel of time played out?
― 龜, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 14:56 (six years ago) link
This thread has turned into
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/H4_9kDO3q0w/hqdefault.jpg
― Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link
xp i have no idea tbh but the guy who finished those is decent in his own right at least. jokes aside i am sure they would get someone passable in.
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 15:00 (six years ago) link
re: the dragons, it also feels like HBO paid $20 million for a dragon model they can insert to any scene at will and the people who did it for them said "if you think that's cool, check out this skin that makes it look like an ice dragon - we just need to flip this switch" and HBO said cool how can we get this onto the show.
― 龜, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 15:01 (six years ago) link
looking on the bright side, I fucking love the Beric actor's voice so much. It's a kind of voice you don't hear onscreen anymore; he sounds like he could be delivering the omens in some late Hammer or Tigon pastoral horror film.
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 15:03 (six years ago) link
would speculate D&D own a gravy stained napkin that reads
ice dragon! aunt and nephew bonegeorge sam becomes king
― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 15:06 (six years ago) link
otm about Beric's voice.
― mizzell, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 15:08 (six years ago) link
― harbinger of failure (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, August 23, 2017 10:03 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
then you'll love Fortitude
― gbx, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 15:12 (six years ago) link
Apparently there's a high rising airstream that runs in a tight loop North to South of Westeros. It's called Jon's Raven's News Round.
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link
A+++++++
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 15:14 (six years ago) link
oops. didn't realise i already posted that. bah
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 15:15 (six years ago) link
jokes are always better the second time round, eh?
― Shat Parp (dog latin), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 15:16 (six years ago) link
Like last night's takeaway curry leftovers for breakfast.
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 15:18 (six years ago) link
yeah Beric's voice is pretty awesome, hope he hangs onto that one life for awhile.
― nomar, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link
given that there's not much logic or consistency with accents on the show it's lame when irish actors can't use their own accents (roose the only exception i think?) but funny that beric & davos have two of the best accents
― ogmor, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 16:10 (six years ago) link
Davos' Geordie twang is excellent, but makes zero sense as every other poor King's Landinger has a cockney-ish accent.
― chap, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 16:14 (six years ago) link
that scene posted above is really good but also reminds me that those were/are two of the best actors on the show--and most of the younger cast really falls flat for me. i can't remember if i liked the actor who played robb or not. i know it was necessary but they killed off so many of the best actors: charles dance, diana rigg, the guy who played stannis, even oberyn and joffrey! that kid was great.
of course this sort of thing would matter far less if the plotting/narrative was more satisfying.
― ryan, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link
the characters that i enjoy at this point are basically the hound and davos. cersei was great until recently but it feels like her arc ended last season and now she's just big boss.
― ryan, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 16:18 (six years ago) link
i can't remember if i liked the actor who played robb or not
Me neither; speaks volumes.
― chap, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 16:24 (six years ago) link
I mean, above all my issue is that the dialogue has gotten fucking awful
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 16:30 (six years ago) link
second the recommendation for all Beric lovers to watch Fortititude which is insane.
― ian, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link
Is the only reason they are wrapping things up so quickly that they don't want to have to renegotiate contracts? Seems like this show would have benefited from another season or two.
― DJI, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link
is s2 of Fortitude any good? I liked s1 but felt it might have been better off as a mini.
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 23 August 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link
i'm enjoying this season a lot, none of the acting bothers me tbh. but there's something to be said for the way the show was so intricate and sinister in those first several seasons, just the way the webs would close around characters or the story would progress leading up to massive events. like Ned going to King's Landing, the red wedding, Blackwater Bay, etc. those seasons were paced pretty perfectly and the slow bits were valuable at building characters up and building the world. i went from that perfect pacing to inconsistent pacing to entire episodes of characters pacing, and now entire episodes of fast-paced action. i don't care too much, this is the best season since 4. if it's going to turn into a big insane show about zombies with a dragon vs the entire population of westeros and 2 dragons, it's all good with me.
still think they whiffed on not using Lady Stoneheart, they're so far from the books now that they might as well have done so. she'd be a pretty ill character if done right, this vengeful fucked up looking banshee.
― nomar, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link
Yeah, I would probably agree that this is the best season since 4.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 23 August 2017 17:25 (six years ago) link