HBO's adaptation of Game of Thrones - Thread 2. There are a lot of nerds.

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i want to know more about this ice king and his friend. they have cool clothes. who made the clothes? do they eat?

akm, Sunday, 27 August 2017 13:30 (six years ago) link

I said it way back but I'm disappointed they gave the white walkers clothes and made them show emotions etc. Now they're just the "bad guys". I wouldn't be surprised if the first sound the night king made was an evil laugh during the wall collapse.

I wish they stayed this alien, humanoid personification of a deadly storm that was set on mindlessly wiping out humanity via an undead horde.

I liked when they looked more like this:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4Pjs9HxQ8H0/hqdefault.jpg https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/f5/72/de/f572de7cf3f71c40b35a19e1211d4932.gif

This is corny to me:

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/gameofthrones/images/7/7d/WhiteWalker_s5e8.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150602122300

Evan, Sunday, 27 August 2017 15:09 (six years ago) link

Oops those were way bigger than I thought they'd be

Evan, Sunday, 27 August 2017 15:09 (six years ago) link

OTM tho, I forgot they were topless nutters initially.

Benjen should reappear as a wight alongside Hodor, would be more interesting.

Hopefully get to see the Night King just fly over the wall and south for a bit doing some damage but the Wall magic probably extends upwards into space. Watching them test this out for a while from greater and greater height might be funny.

nashwan, Sunday, 27 August 2017 15:40 (six years ago) link

they def dark crystal-d the walkers out and it doesn't help
that x-men armor doesn't look very useful, show them desiccated pecs

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Sunday, 27 August 2017 16:17 (six years ago) link

OTM re Walker Fashion. imma guess it's mostly a concession to budget but yeah, night king has gotten hella corny.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 27 August 2017 20:52 (six years ago) link

If you're going to dress them up, at least make them look like they're wearing human armor that was forged thousands of years ago. That would make more sense.

Evan, Sunday, 27 August 2017 22:39 (six years ago) link

it is extremely important that the character called the Night King have a sensible wardrobe and not be too corny

El Tomboto, Sunday, 27 August 2017 23:18 (six years ago) link

Does he even know that is what he's called? "Bahaha, to these cunts I'm just Gary."

nashwan, Sunday, 27 August 2017 23:21 (six years ago) link

the theon sequence in this episode was insanely bad

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 28 August 2017 02:23 (six years ago) link

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

, Monday, 28 August 2017 02:35 (six years ago) link

well. I guess we're getting there. one way or another

, Monday, 28 August 2017 02:36 (six years ago) link

...several other sequences were just as bad, it turns out

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 28 August 2017 02:43 (six years ago) link

I gotta say finally seeing baelish get it and and end of the sibling rivalry is really satisfying.

dan selzer, Monday, 28 August 2017 02:57 (six years ago) link

"you've got no balls and the jokes on ME?"

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 28 August 2017 02:57 (six years ago) link

the actual nadir of this episode was theon getting in that little quip "that insult wasn't even good" or w/ever literal moments after he's supposed to be fretting over his sister's life, wtf

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 28 August 2017 02:59 (six years ago) link

lol at dude telling theon twice, stay down i don't wanna have to kill you and then he gets beaten to death by an unrepentant eunuch on the loose
season's over yay. except for memes and hot takes i don't have to think about this any more for awhile

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 28 August 2017 02:59 (six years ago) link

"When enough ppl make false promises words stop meaning anything and then there are no more answers only better and better lies" --Jon Snow

— Anthony Scaramucci (@Scaramucci) August 28, 2017

Karl Malone, Monday, 28 August 2017 03:16 (six years ago) link

jfc end this life

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Monday, 28 August 2017 03:17 (six years ago) link

i thought a lot of that episode was good.

i understand the eyerolls at the sidequest to get the wight but i thought the payoff in kings landing was compelling. and i enjoy jaime's continued arc, seeming to head toward redemption by finally fucking off from cersei's weird games.

i didn't realize that a weakness of the wall, made of ice, is dragon ice, but oh well.

Karl Malone, Monday, 28 August 2017 03:25 (six years ago) link

oh, and i meant to mention, cersei's secret decision to betray daenerys and jon snow (and jaime) by making a false promise to send troops north was gripping - deceitful, flying in the face of honor, and true to character.

given that the wall has already been breached, though, kings landing may be the best defenses left standing?

Karl Malone, Monday, 28 August 2017 03:30 (six years ago) link

The dragon doesn't shoot ice, it's just White Walker brand PANTONE 13-5414 TPX Ice Green tinted fire.

Evan, Monday, 28 August 2017 03:47 (six years ago) link

They should all just cut their losses and move to Braavos?

Evan, Monday, 28 August 2017 03:48 (six years ago) link

The Littlefinger scene was good.

earlnash, Monday, 28 August 2017 03:49 (six years ago) link

yeah i thought the littlefinger scene was good

i had sort of expected the death toll was going to be LF + one of the Stark sisters, and while i'm glad that it was just him, i can't help but feel that both of the starks surviving is a departure from the early seasons. also expected that jamie would get merc'd somehow just before arriving in winterfell and completing his redemptive arc (though this could still happen)

gbx, Monday, 28 August 2017 04:14 (six years ago) link

I thought this was a great episode

And how cersei's deceit contrasts with Jon's inconvenient honesty was really well played

And I was happy with how the arya-sansa rift played out even if I thought they did a mediocre job of selling us on it (again I guess that's plot points out of process, but building these characters for hours and hours of development really helps you paper over flubs later on)

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 28 August 2017 04:26 (six years ago) link

I guess the theon fight scene was a little goofy (there's a king of the hill episode it reminded me of, lol) but I thought that was a good development for his character arc however handled

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 28 August 2017 04:27 (six years ago) link

To clarify I mean the build up of the arya-sansa "rift" was mediocre but the payoff was well executed

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 28 August 2017 04:27 (six years ago) link

I'm a little surprised the Mountain didn't kill anyone this episode

El Tomboto, Monday, 28 August 2017 04:28 (six years ago) link

And that should have read "plot points *over* process"

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 28 August 2017 04:28 (six years ago) link

fuck yeah that was dope

i laughed so hard when littlefinger got it, that end-around was so good

sam's indulgent "oh really? that's nice, dear" expression to Bran was so fkn gold I want to frame it

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 28 August 2017 04:31 (six years ago) link

cersei is cersei-ing harder than she has ever cersei-d now & i love her for it. dad would be proud of her psychotic vengefulness

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 28 August 2017 04:33 (six years ago) link

brianne & the hound having a parental moment recapping arya together was p great

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 28 August 2017 04:34 (six years ago) link

i thought the king's landing stuff was pretty deftly handled. cersei's plan isn't without merits, i imagine she may survive the war up north and live to fight another day. and this sets the stage for an actual high stakes Clegane-off.

littlefinger's end was satisfying, though a bit telegraphed. w/seven episodes left they also wouldn't have had time to deal with the repercussions of sansa or arya killing the other, plus LF's whole plan was predicated on them not really having a serious talk with Bran about how he's into weirdness now.

was worried for a min once we saw tormund and beric making a run for it but we never saw them die, which means they survived.

nomar, Monday, 28 August 2017 05:55 (six years ago) link

what's interesting with littlefinger is that he's stayed relatively still, in winterfell, for so long, which seems like a death sentence for a conniver like him

Karl Malone, Monday, 28 August 2017 06:02 (six years ago) link

Bran's powers finally showing some usefulness but still creepy: massive lols at him explaining Jon's lineage over visuals of Targaryen incest.

Roz, Monday, 28 August 2017 06:43 (six years ago) link

I doubt I'll go out of my way to watch next season. Other than a handful of scenes I was underwhelmed by this.

Eallach mhór an duine leisg (dowd), Monday, 28 August 2017 07:21 (six years ago) link

Weird take lol why make it this far & not find out what happens... the show could be considerably worse than it has been & id still check it

Agree that the arya /Sansa plot line was kind of a wonky one to last a whole season

Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Monday, 28 August 2017 08:12 (six years ago) link

I'm sure when they arrive at Winterfell and find Jon is the real heir to the throne Dany will just accept it with complete equanimity. especially now that they've boned.

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Monday, 28 August 2017 11:00 (six years ago) link

I'm sure when they arrive at Winterfell and find Jon is the real heir to the throne Dany will just accept it with complete equanimity. especially now that they've boned.

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Monday, 28 August 2017 11:00 (six years ago) link

I feel like blowing up eastwatch at the end was unnecessary. Could have just saved that for next season's cold open and let us wonder for a while what sort of fire an undead dragon breathes.

So assuming they considered the same thing, the choice to show the wall coming down, jammed at the end of an already lengthy episode, must be because the next season needs to start with the walkers well into or past the Gift already?

Or the next season is going to start at the moment this one ended, with Beric and Tormund jogging towards Castle Black like a couple of terrified st bernards, or something.

We should start the poll now for which ep the Night King bites it in next year - I think it might actually be 6.

El Tomboto, Monday, 28 August 2017 13:49 (six years ago) link

sam's indulgent "oh really? that's nice, dear" expression to Bran was so fkn gold I want to frame it

― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 28 August 2017 05:31

I liked that too. He could have a 70s British sitcom.

The Hound speaking to The Mountain scene was really awkwardly done. Wasn't totally convinced he'd just go up and speak to him like that.

I don't think Tyrion would have said "just kill me", what a silly risk.

I sometimes thought Littlefinger would be the surprise final boss battle. I'd be surprised if the books have the same fate for him. I get why people are satisfied but I'm hoping for a better send off.
I don't think Sansa would have went against Arya so easily as some were speculating. There'd need to be much more reasons.

Kind of interested to hear how Jaime feels about leaving his child and even fighting against that side?

I was quite confused about the ice dragon's fire and that it didn't strengthen the Wall. Would have been funny if it just made the Wall bigger and better.
Will fire hurt it? Will Dragon Glass kill it?

The shot at the end was pretty cool.

Episode was better than I expected. I'll more than likely watch the next season.

I'm pretty sick of seeing tv shows weekly, I don't find the wait fun at all. If Cook's Black Company, Okorafor's Who Fears Death and Jemisin's Fifth Season (earlier in development, so less certain) all come out as tv shows I'll need to at least try them unless the trailers look abysmal. But I hope by then I'll have the patience to wait for a whole season to be available.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 28 August 2017 14:14 (six years ago) link

well that was just wonderful

(i mean, phenomenally preposterous, but had a bit more of an emotional heft to it counteracting the silliness, unlike last week where we're just knee-deep in how dopey the "trap a wight" plot is until the very end)

extremely amy dunne voice (slothroprhymes), Monday, 28 August 2017 14:16 (six years ago) link

i've accepted that it's prob wise to stop worrying and love the pulp, enjoy the performances/dialogue when they soar (as they often do) and savor the remaining poignant emotional beats

extremely amy dunne voice (slothroprhymes), Monday, 28 August 2017 14:17 (six years ago) link

Also loved Bran's little expo dump and Sam being like "Oh, you had a vision of all that?" and Bran being like "LOL raven you dork."

Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Monday, 28 August 2017 14:19 (six years ago) link

I guess Bran told them about what happened to Jon Arryn?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 28 August 2017 14:21 (six years ago) link

felt that the show got all its pieces where they needed to be for next season, but the process of getting there was p dreadful - the dialogue was really the pits. you could totally see tv writer pedigree showing through

wight dragon taking down the wall seemed odd in that you just have to imagine the counterfactual, what if no wight dragon - what was the night king's plan then? build trebuchets and catapult the army over the wall?

, Monday, 28 August 2017 14:25 (six years ago) link


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