That Trump toilet song ("Turtleneck") embarrassed me. If this is evolution, give me more dirges.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 September 2017 15:20 (six years ago) link
thank you. it sucks
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 8 September 2017 15:28 (six years ago) link
"guilty party" and "i'll still destroy you" are the mvps here
yeah, those and "dark side..."
the electronic flourishes don't feel very well-integrated to me
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 8 September 2017 15:31 (six years ago) link
The System Dreams in Total Darkness is one of the best things they've done and it made me hopeful the album might be a bit better than usual
― ufo, Friday, 8 September 2017 15:40 (six years ago) link
v happy to see hate for the "terrible love" mix. that is the worst recording of music that exists.
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 8 September 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link
yeah and the fact that it fucks up such a great song too... dunno how anybody involved can feel good about that
― Evan R, Friday, 8 September 2017 16:40 (six years ago) link
my god i am listening to the alternate version for the first time, and i am so happy that i can listen to this song now
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 8 September 2017 16:41 (six years ago) link
so i guess that confirms it's not the worst recording but the worst mix
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 8 September 2017 16:43 (six years ago) link
sheesh such delicate ears around here
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 8 September 2017 16:44 (six years ago) link
still can't believe laura palmer whispered the album mix of 'terrible love' into his ear
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 8 September 2017 16:50 (six years ago) link
“Goodbyes always take us half an hour,” complains the narrator of Nobody Else Will Be There on leaving a party. “Can’t we just go home?”
narrator otm
― angelo irishagreementi (ledge), Friday, 8 September 2017 17:14 (six years ago) link
If Conversation 16 wasn't on HV I would easily think of that as the best National record.
― campreverb, Friday, 8 September 2017 17:17 (six years ago) link
that's one of their best songs wtf!
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 8 September 2017 17:18 (six years ago) link
those lyrics.
― campreverb, Friday, 8 September 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link
most hilarious chorus definitely.
― angelo irishagreementi (ledge), Friday, 8 September 2017 17:22 (six years ago) link
it's like a Berninger caricature of his lyrics, which I suppose may be some sort of meta joke that I missed.
― campreverb, Friday, 8 September 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link
Its a bit National-by-numbers but I really like Carin At The Liquor Store off the new one too
― groovypanda, Friday, 8 September 2017 17:23 (six years ago) link
(Xpost) I'd drop both Conversation 16 and the awful Lemonworld and then I think HV is up there with Boxer.
― Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Friday, 8 September 2017 17:25 (six years ago) link
Lemonworld is probably my favorite national song lol
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 8 September 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link
is there anything as good as "Pink Rabbits" on this one?
― flappy bird, Friday, 8 September 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link
no
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 8 September 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link
ok thanks, i'll check out the tracks y'all like. "Dark Side of the Gym" is a dope song title
― flappy bird, Friday, 8 September 2017 18:12 (six years ago) link
why does everyone like that song title?
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 8 September 2017 18:18 (six years ago) link
sounds cool. evocative. slightly absurd
― flappy bird, Friday, 8 September 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link
it seems like a very bad song title to me. I'd feel v stupid saying something like, "hey, please play that hit The National song 'Dark Side of the Gym' for me next, my man" to the rock 'n' bowl dj
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 8 September 2017 18:21 (six years ago) link
song titles should be a unique stream of numbers that take on the song's meaning if the song is good enough. naming your song 'Dark Side of the Gym' is like naming your new car design 'Toyota Matrix'
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 8 September 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link
England, Vanderlyle, the one about bees, though - they're right up there as my favourite National tracks.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, September 8, 2017
OTM
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 8 September 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link
well yeah, it's silly. i like that. mitigates the MOR ennui of their music & image.
xxp
― flappy bird, Friday, 8 September 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link
it is a perfectly Nationalian song title/sentiment imo
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 8 September 2017 18:27 (six years ago) link
never a good idea to talk to a DJ when they're performing imo
― flappy bird, Friday, 8 September 2017 18:30 (six years ago) link
to a rock 'n' bowl dj, spoken song titles are the keys to the hash table containing all playable songs. but the hash function has been given to the artist, and it is plain irresponsible to title your song with a pun on another title. collisions are inevitable. especially when ginuwine - pony is playing so loudly.
― you are juror number 144 and we will excuse you (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 8 September 2017 18:41 (six years ago) link
what is it a pun of?
― flappy bird, Friday, 8 September 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link
yeah I don't know what's up with the production on that first song on High Violet, it's aggressively, intentionally shitty. Anyway, new album, ok, whatever, it's fine so far.
― akm, Friday, 8 September 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link
High Violet is great and the production on the first song is great too, no idea what you are all talking about!
Not listened to the new album yet. Been a National fan since the first album, their early shows were fucking intense. With every new album I dread they inch closer to being U2.0. Please assure me this is not the case (yet).
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 8 September 2017 19:31 (six years ago) link
They're nothing like U2.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 8 September 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link
i've never understood that comparison at all
― alpine static, Friday, 8 September 2017 20:13 (six years ago) link
Arcade Fire are a lot like U2. The National are not.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 8 September 2017 20:21 (six years ago) link
I never said they were; I said I fear for them becoming like U2. And am glad this is not the case.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 8 September 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link
I'm faintly baffled that anyone would fear that.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 8 September 2017 20:30 (six years ago) link
They went from obscuro indie-outfit to stadium-sized band; their songs got 'big audience friendly' over the years, too. I like it all the same (though I def prefer the early works). It's not that much of a stretch, surely? In any case I'm glad they aren't U2, 's all.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 8 September 2017 20:34 (six years ago) link
Personally I fear them becoming Nickelback. Not saying they are Nickelback, just that I fear them becoming Nickelback
― Evan R, Friday, 8 September 2017 20:36 (six years ago) link
Ok...
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 8 September 2017 20:37 (six years ago) link
lol sorry about that, that was mean. Just weird logic though. I'm not sure I even buy their songs have become bigger and more audience friendly. In a lot of ways their albums have become more hermetic over time—lots of moments that seem almost purposefully devoid of showmanship in the interest of setting a mood
― Evan R, Friday, 8 September 2017 20:44 (six years ago) link
nickelback have some tracks
― flappy bird, Friday, 8 September 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link
No offense taken Evan, all good. But:
I'm not sure I even buy their songs have become bigger and more audience friendly.
For real? The s/t and 'Sad Songs' had both very quiet and 'screamo' songs. Alligator and consequent albums after that showed a way more polished sound imo.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 8 September 2017 20:55 (six years ago) link
Alligator is the one with their big arena tune. But that was 2005. The last album in particular, and what I've heard of this one (which I'm really enjoying so far), both feel like inward retreats.
Not that the band can't sell the shit out of even their buzzkill songs live, but I haven't heard anything from them lately that would make a radio programmer go "Yes! Yes! That's the one!"
― Evan R, Friday, 8 September 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link
I almost forgot about the original version of “Terrible Love.” I just replaced the file with the alternate one in my music library a few years ago and never looked back. But gee, that original mix was indeed horrendous and headache-inducing.
― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Friday, 8 September 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link
and thus, even on an exclusive forum for music aficionados, misguided opinions on the National were widespread :P
― niels, Friday, 8 September 2017 23:40 (six years ago) link
forgot about this today, will play it next week.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 9 September 2017 02:24 (six years ago) link