David Bowie's roundly maligned, nazi cocainey live album, STAGE: Classic or Dud?

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i have a live show from that tour on CD. ill have to go back and hear the version of STS.

splooge (thesplooge), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 22:00 (nineteen years ago) link

seven months pass...
March 15th will see the re-release of both David Live Live and Stage. The sound is supposed to be greatly improved and both sets have a new songs added on (David Live - Panic in Detroit and Sapce Oddity and Stage - Be My Wife and Stay).

Stage has also resequenced the tracks in their original concert running order.

Jeff K (jeff k), Friday, 4 March 2005 00:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Here's the new running order....

Disc 1:
1. Warszawa
2. Heroes
3. What In The World
4. Be My Wife - Previously Unreleased
5. Blackout
6. Sense Of Doubt
7. Speed Of Life
8. Breaking Glass
9. Beauty And The Beast
10. Fame

Disc 2:
1. Five Years
2. Soul Love
3. Star
4. Hang On To Yourself
5. Ziggy Stardust
6. Art Decade
7. Alabama Song
8. Station To Station
9. Stay - Previously Unreleased
10. TVC 15

Jeff K (jeff k), Friday, 4 March 2005 01:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I bought "Stage" at a used vinyl store in Philly in 2003 for $14. Great condition too. It's ok; I pretty much second what everyone said, except I'll note that the Low/Heroes instrumentals sound even more menacing live. Schlockier too, like horror movie music.

I've been hunting a live bootleg of Bowie in '76 from which the Rykodisc reissue extracted live versions of "Stay" and "Word on a Wing" - both spectacular. How readily available?

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 4 March 2005 01:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Didn't this used to have "Knock on Wood" on it? Or was that a different '70s live Bowie LP? I remember in the early '80s thinking it was really cool that he had the guts to cover an actual huge disco hit. But then later I found out that he and Amii Stewart were both covering the same Eddie Floyd song. I have no idea if his version was any good or not, though; I'm pretty sure I've never heard the thing.

chuck, Friday, 4 March 2005 01:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Chuck, it was on David Live

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 4 March 2005 01:53 (nineteen years ago) link

that david live cover STILL is the pits!!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 4 March 2005 02:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Berlin-Bowie should play with Xiu Xiu.

Nic de Teardrop (Nicholas), Friday, 4 March 2005 05:06 (nineteen years ago) link

five years pass...

Having just read Hugo Wilcken's excellent 33 1/3 book on Low, I am still digging this roundly maligned, nazi cocainey live album for mostly the same reasons I did six years ago.

Did the reissue really have better sound? I love the idea that he fucking OPENED his shows with "Warsawa" -- it makes complete sense, and the sense of drama going from that to "Heroes" must have been insane for members of the audience.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 04:37 (thirteen years ago) link

Reissue sounds fantastic. Plus the restored running order makes much more sense as in it feels like you're listening to a concert recording instead of a collection of live songs arranged according to era imo. Still love this album.

willem, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 08:21 (thirteen years ago) link

that david live cover no way deserves all the dissing!

NI, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 09:04 (thirteen years ago) link

"that david live cover no way deserves all the dissing!"

I still find it totally scary: I saw it for the first time when I was 13 or something and it was like someone punched me in the stomach. The Raw Power cover did more or less the same thing to me.

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 22 December 2010 11:43 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Please watch this performance of Warzawa with Carlos Alomar conducting, people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5BSgth7Hjk

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 6 January 2011 03:19 (thirteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Only now have I thought to listen to the 2005 reissue of this (on Spotify). The new running order is amazing. I mean, the first disc has Warszawa, Heroes, What in the World, Be My Wife, Blackout, Sense of Doubt, Speed of Life, Breaking Glass, Beauty and the Beast and Fame in that order. Beautiful.

I think this record's lowly reputation comes from the original tracklisting's focus on the rejigged Ziggy songs, which are interesting but inessential.

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link

ummmmmmmmmmmm, 'roundly maligned'? i really had no idea. easily the best bowie era. david live is unlistenable. 'prefab philly soul' is right

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link

my favorite part is how the beat for what in the world is slowed down and made way funkier

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 16:17 (ten years ago) link

I never heard this but it seems classic and I plan to listen to it soon.

Treeship, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link

ummmmmmmmmmmm, 'roundly maligned'? i really had no idea

It didn't exactly get great reviews at the time of its release

Bees Against Racism (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 17:33 (ten years ago) link

I had small but fatal problems with Hugo Wilckin's book. "Truth according to 95% of all respondents" is routinely conflated with "as Angela Bowie told it", and it comes across as a mishmash of fact and fiction. To me, any way. I'm not calling Angela a liar, in fact, her autobiography is probably the best read on Bowie to date, but it is way OTT.

Anyway Stage rules. If there's a roundly maligned live album in David's catalogue that deserves re-appraisal it's the Ziggy Stardust OST

flamboyant goon mayor denuded (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link

I used to have 'Stage' as a double LP and never listened to the Ziggy cuts. Always sounds like Bowie was in a hurry to get them over. I vacillate between 'David Live' and 'Santa Monica 72' as my fave Dave live album. OTM about ZS:TMP being under-rated, it's solid, put together as it is from the three (?) Hammersmith Odeon shows. The Brel and VU covers especially are great. Angela's autobio is a good read as well, especially since most Bowie related books are dry facts, at least until Keeping Ahead of The Dame's book gets published.

go cray cray on my lobster soufflé (snoball), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link

The Ziggy tracks on Stage are kind of a drag. The original double album has it all Ziggy tracks on side 1, then Young Americans/Station to Station stuff on side 2. I guess the record company just wanted to put out something that had the populist Bowie rather than the weird stuff he was coming up with at the time. It wasn't till side 3 and 4 that you got the recent songs. The songs also faded out between tracks (no linking crowd noises), which is weird for a live album. I'm not surprised that reviewers at the time didn't give it so much attention.

The 2005 reissue totally rearranges the tracklisting, putting Low/Heroes stuff at the front (and adding extra songs e.g. Be My Wife). Crowd atmosphere links the tracks. It's a completely different experience, and CD 1 in particular, which I mentioned above, is insanely good.

Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link

The revised running order threw me when I was listening for the Bowie poll -- I had the original vinyl practically memorized back in high school.

Thank you for talkin' to me Williamsburg (WilliamC), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link

I'd never heard it until the CD reissue (and even that listen was inspired by this thread). I like it as much as anything else from this era of Bowie.

誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 19:25 (ten years ago) link

only heard the santa monica'72 bootleg (the officially released version) a few weeks ago despite having it in the archive since its release.

damn .. thats a good'un.

never been too overly fussed with stage/live, but i will try them again.

but for the real 'WTF is this' audio experience - has anyone actually listened to the audio cds (i.e. both of them!) that come with the release of the Spider tour DVD ..

truly dreadful.

mark e, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 19:28 (ten years ago) link

I haven't ever seen any footage or heard any recordings of the Serious Moonlight tour.

?

I loved the Gail Ann + Reeves line-up of the 90s, though, and feel honestly that I might not have seen Bowie at his youngest but I've seen him at his best

flamboyant goon mayor denuded (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link

plenty of footage on YouTube, goon. A good tour.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O59CD81UAzw

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link

His 50th birthday gig is a decent listen, lot's of special guests.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link

Yep. Highlights: Reed-Bowie doing "Queen Bich," Bowie, Gabrels, and Dave Grohl slashing away at "Seven Years in Tibet.

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link

I loved the Gail Ann + Reeves line-up of the 90s, though, and feel honestly that I might not have seen Bowie at his youngest but I've seen him at his best

― flamboyant goon mayor denuded (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, May 28, 2013 3:33 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i've only seen him once, on the earthling tour. + mike garson! that album was p bad, but they did sound really good.

goole, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 20:44 (ten years ago) link

I dig Stage, and it's my go to when I feel like listening to the Berlin era tracks. Was his best live record until the Nassau show was released on the Station To Station reissue. That record is amazing.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link

Man, I saw the Meltdown Festival gig in London, all of Low then Heathen, it was ace and to cap it all I was in the seat right across the aisle next to Eno.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link

Man this Serious Moonlight Station to Station vid is great, shows what kind of a jerk I am for preferring healthy+banal Bowie to drugged-out+exciting Bowie, thanks Alfred.

Fuccck this is my favourite song ever

Earthling is kinda bad but I think "Dead Man Walking" is good enough to make the whole treacherous experience worth it

flamboyant goon mayor denuded (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link

and wouldn't you know it: the Bowie blog's there now http://bowiesongs.wordpress.com/category/earthling-1997/

A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 May 2013 21:30 (ten years ago) link

earthling is not bad.

tis of its time.

love the album on headphones ..

mark e, Tuesday, 28 May 2013 21:39 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

let me take this sad occasion to revive my very favorite ILM bowie thread!

i pulled this out today, the revamp. it's very very very good.

goole, Monday, 11 January 2016 17:39 (eight years ago) link

was jamming this over the weekend - kind of amazing that (visconti claims in the liners) it is overdub free. ridiculously tight band. and perfectly recorded too.

tylerw, Monday, 18 January 2016 15:05 (eight years ago) link

I really need the full version of this, I just have the OG 2LP

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Monday, 18 January 2016 16:25 (eight years ago) link

The reissued version is on Spotify.

https://open.spotify.com/album/3WmFXvoEvGcV793mtaTeUc

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 18 January 2016 16:39 (eight years ago) link

Oh, this was plonked into the "Zeit" box set, yeah?

Along with "Heroes", "Low" and "Lodger"

Thought it was OK..

Mark G, Monday, 18 January 2016 16:48 (eight years ago) link

you would

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Monday, 18 January 2016 16:53 (eight years ago) link

"What in the World" on here blows the studio version out of the water. Those Belew licks!

flappy bird, Monday, 18 January 2016 18:15 (eight years ago) link

the video is awesome too

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2016 18:38 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpg_7t7rpWE

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2016 18:39 (eight years ago) link

love this little bit here:

http://i.imgur.com/5VdkxxS.gif

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2016 18:49 (eight years ago) link

That looks like Robert Mitchum

banned on ixlor (Jon not Jon), Monday, 18 January 2016 20:05 (eight years ago) link

This is great, despite the entire band's appaling, dgaf dress sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClDO1_dH0DU

MaresNest, Monday, 18 January 2016 20:41 (eight years ago) link

and my appalling spelling

MaresNest, Monday, 18 January 2016 20:43 (eight years ago) link

Man, Dennis Davis doesn't get enough credit. He navigated Bowie's twists and turns as deftly as any of his collaborators. Like Alomar, Davis embraced whatever Bowie threw at him.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 18 January 2016 21:13 (eight years ago) link

Was thinking the same thing yesterday about George Murray.

Blecchstar Linus Must Comp (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 January 2016 21:19 (eight years ago) link


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