A thread for the Cure reissues

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I missed this news as I was away from the computer yesterday. Now that I am back, HOORAY! :-)

All them Top/Head on the Door demos = oh great happiness.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm surprised there aren't any unreleased songs from the KMKMKM sessions. They really stuffed that album, it seems...

Baaderonixx rides the neon lights (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Well there was "To The Sky", but for some reason they put it on the B-Sides collection.

LeRooLeRoo (Seb), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyway, um, Dan to thread revival...? Yes?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Why, Mr Smith, you are spoiling us!

JAPANESE WHISPERS AND...
5/30/2006 6:16:24 PM - by CURE:ROBERT

STUFF

JAPANESE WHISPERS IS DELETED
AS THERE SEEMED LITTLE POINT IN REMASTERING AN ALBUM THAT WASNT REALLY AN ALBUM ANYWAY
AND (AS HAS ALREADY BEEN POINTED OUT) ALL THE JW SONGS ARE AVAILABLE AS REMASTERS ON THE GREATEST HITS AND JOIN THE DOTS

AND 'OTHER' KMKMKM SONGS...

THIS WAS A DIFFICULT EXTRAS CD TO COMPILE
AS THERE WERE REALLY TWO...
ONE WITH 18 UNRELEASED AND B-SIDE INSTRUMENTAL DEMOS
AND THE DEMOS/OUT-TAKES/LIVE ONE THAT IS TO BE RELEASED

ON BALANCE I (AND THOSE I PLAYED BOTH TO) FELT THAT THE DEMOS/OUT-TAKES/LIVE ONE WAS JUST MORE INTERESTING AS AN EXTRA WITH THE KMKMKM ALBUM...

MAYBE THE OTHER ONE WILL LEAK OUT SOMETIME...

ANYWAY...
THESE NEXT REMASTERS REALLY DO SOUND FAB... PARTICULARLY THE TOP!
RSX

AND (AS HAS ALSO ALREADY BEEN POINTED OUT)
NOW ALL THE CURIOSITY TRACKS WILL BE AVAILABLE
AND
THERE WILL BE AN 'ALL THE SINGLES' COLLECTION NEXT YEAR - WITH STARING AT THE SEA TYPE LINKS INBETWEEN
AND
THERE WILL BE A LIVE DVD BOXSET
WITH ORANGE
AND SHOW
AND JAPAN(?)
AND
AND
OTHER SURPRISE STUFF

AND
A PRAYER TOUR SHOW?
HMMMM...
IF I CAN FIND THE FOOTAGE!

ONWARDS...

Baaderonixx rides the neon lights (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 06:53 (seventeen years ago) link

how to not fuck up the "all the singles" collection: make it only non-LP singles, or singles that were drastically re-recorded or remixed (cf Close To Me) for their single release. I'll allow the 12" of Fascination Street.

kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 08:02 (seventeen years ago) link

(thinks: which gives us what?)

Killing An Arab
Charlotte Sometimes
Let's Go To Bed
The Love Cats
The Walk
Close To Me (single version)
Never Enough (7" version)
Wrong Number
Cut Here
Just Say Yes

is anything else legitimately different enough to count as a new version? I'd save the 1990 Close To Me for a big remix compilation (urgent & key! except stick all the Wild Mood Swings versions on a WMS bonus disc.) did I forget any?

kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 10:27 (seventeen years ago) link

The implication of the 'all the singles' thing is that it's a DVD, not a CD.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 11:31 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, the mention of 'Staring at the sea' links indicate that we're talking videos here. What's this Japan thing he mentions? The Top-era gig that's been widely bootlegged?
I must say the prospect of a DVD box set with 3-4 shows is very exciting.

Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 12:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, fucking joy! Now, do we have an actual release date yet for the August batch? (And I must confess that what I'm waiting for the mostmostmost is the Disintegration remaster...) RS makes my still-16-year-old heart swell with luuuuurve.

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

RS makes my still-16-year-old heart swell with luuuuurve

i feel the same and its just embarrassing :)

Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Heheheh.

Anyway, to say it again, DAN TO THREAD.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Dan's grown up, he doesn't care about Top demos and quadruple-dvd sets anymore...

Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

"Japanese Whispers" will be part of the re-releases in July, which means "Let's Go To Bed", "The Lovecats" and "The Walk" will all be part of an album.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, deluxe remasters of Blue Sunshine and The Top in the same month??! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

You guys just made my day.

rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Uh, Geir, you might actually want to READ the thread revivals first.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Please, pardon me if this has been discussed before. I tried reading a bit, and I just gave it up due to the length of this thread.

On the Seventeen Seconds remaster on Rhino (I just bought it recently!), has anyone experienced a glitch in the song toward the end of "M" (at 2:22)? I don't recall hearing it on the original Fiction, A&M or Elektra pressings, so I am wondering if the source tapes are bad now, if the remastering had errors or if Rhino made a bad batch.

Input appreciated! Thanks!!!

Highly anticipating the next batch of reissues! Believe it or not, the Sire tape of The Top was my first foray into Smith & Co., so The Top holds a special place in my once-13 year old heart, even if it is the most rubbish of the early albums.

Johnny Strangler, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 18:25 (seventeen years ago) link

even if it is the most rubbish of the early albums

i strongly disagree. i'd take The Top over Faith or Seventeen Seconds any ol' day

rentboy (rentboy), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Heh, I probably should have said "the most rubbish of the early albums according to most Cure fans". I love that record! I have no idea why, because they are so absurd, but "Birdmad Girl" and "Dressing Up" are just fantastic!

Johnny Strangler, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 18:31 (seventeen years ago) link

There are only so many variations of "GUH ME WANT" I can post, guys!

Dan (Really) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link

As far as reissuing hits, WEA takes the cake for The Smiths. Singles, Best 1, Best 2, Best 1&2 box, The Best Of, blah blah blah. At least The World WOn't Listen and Hatful of Hollow had some merit when they came out. WEA needs to remaster the scant few proper albums that The Smiths released. 4 albums, 1 band with a ravenous following...seems simple to me.

The Dinosaur Jr. reissues on Merge are lame, too. Extra tracks/demos just have to be floating around. Instead we get lame fucking videos that you can watch on VH1's The Alternative.

While rubbish like Fleetwood Mac and Yes get the grand reissue treatment, classics are left w/ poor audio fidelity:

The Pretenders - The Pretenders
New Order - all back catalogue
Gang Of Four - Songs Of The Free (deleted in UK as well I believe)

These are all WEA-related albums (GOF was WEA in US), so why can't Rhino reissue these instead of the hated Mac and Yes?

Johnny Strangler, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 18:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Er, sorry, the previous entry should have gone to the Worst Reissues thread. Apologies...

Johnny Strangler, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 18:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Johnny Strangler, read a bit starting here: A thread for the Cure reissues
I asked about some fuzziness issues regarding Faith that may help you out. I'll have to listen to M tonight, but it may be a similar issue.

Regarding things that were on official releases but haven't been re-mastered and re-issue on the box set or on the re-issues (since we now have the track listings through KMKMKM), I have the following things missing:

Primary (12" version)
A Forest (live) and Killing An Arab (live) from A Single (The Hanging Garden) UK 2x7"
Let's Go To Bed (12" version)
Just One Kiss (12" version)
Love Cats (12" version)
In Between Days (12" version)
Close to Me (12" version)
Boys Don't Cry (New Voice/New Mix)
Why Can't I Be You (12" version)
Japanese Whispers (12" version)
Kyoto Song (live) and A Night Like This (live) from Catch UK 12"

Now I don't have Greatest Hits so maybe a couple of these were released in re-mastered form there. Please correct me if so. Also, am I missing anything? Just trying to get it all sorted out, you understand.

matt2 (matt2), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought this next batch of reissues was due in July. Bollocks....

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link


While rubbish like Fleetwood Mac and Yes get the grand reissue treatment

Message To Johnny Strangler: no need to be SO punk rock, dude.

Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Punk rock? Please. Just opinion on the matter. I'm 33...punk rock is a bit overdone by now, don't you think?

Johnny Strangler, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 19:50 (seventeen years ago) link

The implication of the 'all the singles' thing is that it's a DVD, not a CD.

LET ME DREAM

and oh yeah add Boys Don't Cry (New Voice/New Mix) to my list (ta matt2), though mainly because the New Voice/Club Mix can go on the EQUALLY IMAGINARY remix collection.

kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, am I missing anything? Just trying to get it all sorted out, you understand.

There's the "Hot Hot Hot!!!" extended mix and the "Hey You!!!" extended mix. And I'm assuming that by "Japanese Whispers" you meant "A Japanese Dream"?

LeRooLeRoo (Seb), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 22:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Yep, sorry "A Japanese Dream." As for the extended "Hot Hot Hot!!!," I was thinking maybe, just maybe there would be a re-mastered Mixed Up, and since it was on the original Mixed Up, I didn't include it in the "all the things which should've been covered up through the KMKMKM re-issue" category. The "Hey You!!!" extended mix was actually included on the box set. Also, were the tracks on Galore re-mastered?

matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 1 June 2006 03:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Greatest Hits is remastered, Galore isn't IIRC

Kit, Thursday, 1 June 2006 04:11 (seventeen years ago) link

"Ariel" is hopelessly overpraised. I've never understood this. I would YSI the Top demos for discussion but apparently YSI-ing is no longer ILM-friendly? Ned I'm sure would agree they challenge the album itself.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 8 June 2006 00:33 (seventeen years ago) link

DOOD EMAIL A BRO

chaki (chaki), Thursday, 8 June 2006 00:37 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
So when the hell are these coming out??

Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Thursday, 20 July 2006 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Early August, like they said. What, did the date change?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 July 2006 14:22 (seventeen years ago) link

The "Inbetween days" 12" is the same as the 7" version.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 20 July 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

But I was said it was true.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 July 2006 14:33 (seventeen years ago) link

They should really include Blue Sunshine in the next batch of reissues.

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Thursday, 20 July 2006 14:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow, that's the most stone-faced comment I've ever seen you give.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 20 July 2006 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link

But isn't that the plan? COF says it's been pushed back a week or two

Baaderonixx immer wieder (baaderonixx), Thursday, 20 July 2006 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I pre-ordered mine at Amazon earlier this week, figuring why go through the charade of pretending I'm not going to buy them. According to Amazon, not that their word is gold, the discs are out 8/8 in the U.S. -- that isn't so far off.

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Thursday, 20 July 2006 16:02 (seventeen years ago) link

(I'm glad someone appreciated my Geir impression.)

Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Thursday, 20 July 2006 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
So the new batch is coming out tomorrow, am I wrong?

Das Spiel ist aus für Baaderonixx (baaderonixx), Monday, 7 August 2006 12:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I was told just KMKMKM, although maybe they just put up the most "popular one".. I dunno.

dottie nuttie dach nach dtnt hhhhhhhh (donut), Monday, 7 August 2006 12:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Well AMG has the reviews up and all of them have a 8 August release date, so here's hoping... Not sure I'll pick up the THOTD one for the moment.

Das Spiel ist aus für Baaderonixx (baaderonixx), Monday, 7 August 2006 12:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Due out tomorrow, yes. Am busy tomorrow night so I'll grab the Glove and The Top on Wednesday. The other two might have to wait a bit, but we'll see.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 7 August 2006 13:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, these two are my priorities right now (esp since the bonus discs of the other two don't seem that appealing)

Das Spiel ist aus für Baaderonixx (baaderonixx), Monday, 7 August 2006 13:11 (seventeen years ago) link

errgh, I just realized that these were coming out later in Europe...

Das Spiel ist aus für Baaderonixx (baaderonixx), Monday, 7 August 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Just called Easy Street. They have all four apparently (although not sure if they have the right Glove one or not.) They're open until 12:30am, and I was told they might sell out of one or more of them before tomorrow evening, so I'm gonna have to bus over at midnight tonight to grab 'em, then bus back, and hit the sac.

dottie nuttie dach nach dtnt hhhhhhhh (donut), Monday, 7 August 2006 20:05 (seventeen years ago) link

damn seattle goths

Hi! :D

dottie nuttie dach nach dtnt hhhhhhhh (donut), Monday, 7 August 2006 20:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Be careful when hitting your sac.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 7 August 2006 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link


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