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Griffin Dunne is NOT cool.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I've never actually seen a Scorsese movie, except for half of GONY which was one of the worst things I've ever seen.

"GONY" sounds like an obscure Japanese children's movie about a playful panda that ran away from a circus.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Griffin Dunne is NOT cool.

Who said everyone had to be cool?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:49 (nineteen years ago) link

not me, but I am saying he's not, that's for damn sure. He makes James Spader seem like a method actor.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, to be fair, I haven't thought much of him in any other roles (though he was entertaining as Frank Zappa in that VH1 movie about the PMRC). That movie he made with Madonna was unwatchable, though.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Just fucking admit it, dudes - Griffin Dunne and James Spader only have one face.

I know they can open and close their mouth and eyes, but I personally class those as biological functions, pure and simple. Other than that, they wear that face like a mask 24-7. Let's just all agree on this one and then we can move on to politics or something. I mean, I'M a movie person! But Griffin Dunne's and James Spader's faces are like the wind, they don't change. Evolution is done with Griffin Dunne's and James Spader's faces. Science and art have turned their attentions to worthier subjects, like stem cell research and sound installation. And when we're all so much wormfood, Griffin Dunne and James Spader will still be there, with the same fucking faces.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:53 (nineteen years ago) link

James Spader? How did he get into this?

Alright. Sorry for hijacking this thread with my unconditional, fundmentalist alleigance to the perfection that is "After Hours" (maybe it's a New York thing...you have to have lived here to fully appreciate it). I now return this thread to the original topic, already in progress.

And here's an on-topic question to loop it back around: Why did Scorsese pick Sid Vicious' "My Way" for the end credits?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:55 (nineteen years ago) link

chronologically and aesthetically appropriate. Sinatra-era gangsters hobbling into the 1980s.

― hstencil (hstencil), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Sinatra-era gangsters hobbling into the 1980s.

Hmmmm....dunno'bout that. It still seems a bit incongruous to me (not the chronology part, but the aesthetic appropriateness).

Anyway, it's Midnight....my shift is over. Nighty night, ILX.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:58 (nineteen years ago) link

my way is the perfect way to end goodfellas... because henry hill did it his way!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:41 (nineteen years ago) link

anyway the point is no more after hours pics would be appreciated on this thread

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:43 (nineteen years ago) link

http://membres.lycos.fr/goodfellasbyfab/rt4.jpg

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:51 (nineteen years ago) link

friends forever

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Alex in NYC utterly and absolutely OTM.

― Symplistic (shmuel), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:55 (nineteen years ago) link

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:56 (nineteen years ago) link

yes

― Symplistic (shmuel), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:57 (nineteen years ago) link

fite

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:57 (nineteen years ago) link

how hot is lorraine bracco in this movie

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:57 (nineteen years ago) link

"i have to admit... it turned me on!"

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:58 (nineteen years ago) link

And here's an on-topic question to loop it back around: Why did Scorsese pick Sid Vicious' "My Way" for the end credits?

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...) (webmail), August 18th, 2004 10:55 PM. (vassifer) (later) (link)

because both sid vicious and henry hill were self-destructive louts whose following their id only got them into terrible trouble? (also the ironic wink to sinatra--it's a mob movie after all.) it seems a beautifully appropriate choice to me.

btw this movie rules, but casino is even better.

― amateur!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:59 (nineteen years ago) link

i beg to differ, casino kinda falls apart in the last act don't you find?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:59 (nineteen years ago) link

It's not like After Hours is objectively the best Scorcese movie, but it is my favorite Scorcese movie.

― Symplistic (shmuel), Thursday, 19 August 2004 03:59 (nineteen years ago) link

that's how I feel about Casino though I find Goodfellas more entertaining.

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 19 August 2004 04:00 (nineteen years ago) link

like casino kinda chokes, while goodfellas just flies in that amazing last half hour (the "last day as a gangster" sequence with the helicopters and the spaghetti and the guns and the coke and the jumpcuts), and you can't beat the ending in the courtroom. that's like my favourite 4th-wall breaking ever!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 19 August 2004 04:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Pesci and Stone are so amazing in Casino though. Especially Pesci, he's just awesome.

There's an actual would-be-Sinatra character in Goodfellas, that singer at the nightclub.

― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Thursday, 19 August 2004 04:14 (nineteen years ago) link

ah man, i'm too tired and boozed up to explain why i love casino. maybe this weekend.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 19 August 2004 04:15 (nineteen years ago) link

but yes: sharon stone.

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 19 August 2004 04:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I always thought that Sid Vicious' version ends GoodFellas because it's a punk-ass way of giving the finger to the old guard (Sinatra, the Italian Mob) like Henry did.

I saw this movie for the first time in the early nineties, when I was a punk teenager. I immediately loved it and watched it again and again and again. It became the first DVD I ever bought, and will probably become the first DVD that I ever rebuy. The one I have now is a flipper!

I watched it six months ago, half expecting that some of the magic would have dimmed since I'm now a grown man in his thirties. I loved it even more. My favorite movie of all time. Fuck The Godfather.

And Good Lord, fuck After Hours at the same time. Is that all there is? He goes to work covered in paint, huzzah for metaphors.

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 19 August 2004 04:36 (nineteen years ago) link

casino is poop Scorcese has never topped Taxi Driver.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 04:38 (nineteen years ago) link

though I'd like to thank you all for not bringing up Raging Bullshit.

― CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 19 August 2004 04:39 (nineteen years ago) link

oh the boxing is just a little too close to dancing for you, Miccio!

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 19 August 2004 04:42 (nineteen years ago) link

I just traded in my cheapo Raging Bull DVD because it's "out of print" and Amoeba gave me twenty for it. I admire it but it's not one I'd watch more than once every couple of years, and Luomo and Viktor Vaughn beckoned.

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 19 August 2004 04:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't wait to see the documentary and hear the commentary for GoodFellas.

The scene where Henry's car stays parked out front of his girlfriend's apartment, and the night turns to morning.

The jump edits, like when Henry looks out the window and the edit gives him a double take while he's making the sauce.

Tommy's line of "I didn't mean to mess up your floor!" while they're wrapping up Billy Batts. Was that line adlibbed?

Oh, and the deleted scenes. I wonder how much is on there? Dammit, I guess I'll have to get this tomorrow.

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 19 August 2004 05:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Get the fuck outta here what're you nuts?
I'm telling ya

― Uh-Huh Him (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:01 (nineteen years ago) link

My respect and affection for many people on ILX whom I previosuly respected and held in affection has just nose-dived. Goodfellas? The Breakfast Club? Fuck's sake.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Scorsese can go and fuck a horse, man.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:11 (nineteen years ago) link

how can you not like 'goodfellas'?! wtf?

― G-L-O-R-I-A (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:14 (nineteen years ago) link

scorsese should've directed the breakfast club!

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:15 (nineteen years ago) link

'The type of movies that become classics'

I can not like it because it's fucking horrible.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:16 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/5269/diner.jpg

― G-L-O-R-I-A (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Nope, still hate it.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:23 (nineteen years ago) link

WRONGITUDE. I know it's an 'Uncut/Hotdog/FilmFour' canon-stuffer n'all but the film rocks ANY house you care to name. It's an objective fact, Nick.

― ENRG (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:26 (nineteen years ago) link

It does not rock my house. I really dislike it. Not as much as Taxi Driver though.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:29 (nineteen years ago) link

And I love you to bits and know yr half joking wiv the "It's an objective fact" line, but that kind of automatic, unquestionign assumption really pisses me off, whether it's about The Beatles or Scorsese or whoever. NOT everyone has to like these things which are ranked as classic.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:31 (nineteen years ago) link

The tracking shot going into the club is a work of fucking genius. The soundtrack is superb - I defy anyone to do coke-addled paranoia better than the scenes leading up to the arrest of Henry. It covers the food culutre within the mafia lifestyle, the cheapness, the inanity, the casual violence underpinning it. The book is good, but the film takes a great story to another level. My all-time number one film evah.

― Dave B (daveb), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:35 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.scorsese.stopklatka.pl/good24.jpg

― Uh-Huh Him (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:37 (nineteen years ago) link

It's a film I've seen about a million times, and I don't even think about it as a 'favourite' because it's just *there*. 'Taxi Driver' I love also, but in a very different way. I don't care about Scorsese particularly, but these are two amazing films.

― Uh-Huh Him (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I think film to me is about something very different to other people who are 'into' films. I really dislike Taxi Driver, and was very disappointed when my brother bought me the DVD of it a few years ago, because a; it showed that we don't really communicate that much or he'd know my antipathy for it and Scorsese, and 2; it's a really dull, canonical choice, "I will buy you this because it is good" instead of "I will buy you this because I think you will enjoy/love it". I bought Emma Short Circuit the other week and she was thrilled.

― Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:56 (nineteen years ago) link

you're a fanny.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:57 (nineteen years ago) link

It is good *and* you might love it. 'TD' is sorta sexist and racist perhaps, but other than that it's only an accident that it seems 'obvious'. Lots of obvious films *are* bad (eg 'Easy Rider') but this one isn't.

― ENRG (Enrique), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:59 (nineteen years ago) link

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