xp lol
― and what, Thursday, 15 May 2008 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Buzz: You are a sad, strange little man, and you have my pity. Farewell. [starts to walk away] Woody: Oh, yeah? Well, good riddance, ya loony!
ethan's zing back was nice but i would have preferred this response
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 15 May 2008 16:17 (sixteen years ago) link
hey I lived it I learned it but I will admit I am one of the old kids just tryin to keep up
however dre/roots not selling me on concept
xp
― Edward III, Thursday, 15 May 2008 16:19 (sixteen years ago) link
dj quik since 'rhythmalism' has used instruments timbaland uses them for shits sake plenty of classic beatz are replayed samples
― deej, Thursday, 15 May 2008 16:20 (sixteen years ago) link
i like aquemini the best.
speakerboxx might be my next favorite if you rescued it from lovesexy pt.II
then atliens probably
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 15 May 2008 16:20 (sixteen years ago) link
(and there are no rules in music wrt to instrumentation or not or samples or not)
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 15 May 2008 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link
tons of classic rap-a-lot stuff is mike dean on organ/guitar/bass
― deej, Thursday, 15 May 2008 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link
google results #1 for ll cool j unplugged
http://jasper.webvomit.com/images/random/60.jpg
― Edward III, Thursday, 15 May 2008 16:23 (sixteen years ago) link
pretty much all the sugar hill shit was doug wimbush and those dudes right?
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 15 May 2008 16:23 (sixteen years ago) link
live instrumentation in rap? that's unheard of and impossible...also wtf
― chinchillas they can fit on gorillas, Thursday, 15 May 2008 16:24 (sixteen years ago) link
southernplayalistic! i think only because i got busted trying to rack the cassette when it came out(casually mentioning...). but it is the one album that still gets the most play by me.
― carne asada, Thursday, 15 May 2008 16:25 (sixteen years ago) link
cassettes were so much easier...mp3s are not as fun to gank
― chinchillas they can fit on gorillas, Thursday, 15 May 2008 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link
i always felt like sir mix-a-lot should get more credit for keeping live instrumentation/keyboard 80s electro type production alive during the time between the early 80s and dudes like pharell and timbaland
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 15 May 2008 16:27 (sixteen years ago) link
mike dean looks like one of the the guys who hang out outside of berklee and at guitar center on comm ave
― chinchillas they can fit on gorillas, Thursday, 15 May 2008 16:30 (sixteen years ago) link
there is one rule: is it any good?
I can't read dj quik's name without tim dog's voice adding "can suck my dick" in my head.
first name: dj quik last name: can suck my dick
however this is no impugnment of dj quik's talented instrumentalism, I'm just sayin'
― Edward III, Thursday, 15 May 2008 16:31 (sixteen years ago) link
ugk had dude from the meters playing guitar on ridin dirty
― and what, Thursday, 15 May 2008 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link
the coup does it main source shouldn't have
― Granny Dainger, Thursday, 15 May 2008 16:50 (sixteen years ago) link
i mean this really isn't even an argument
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 15 May 2008 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link
it really isn't, there's some willful misreading going on.
yeh, actual instruments are more predominant in rap now and it's done great things for improving the quality of live shows, but I also know if I put together a list of my favorite rap tracks there wouldn't be many purely rooted in live instrumentation so y'all better quantify. and there's a difference between coloring a track with instruments (e.g. j-live's "satisfied") and rooting yr whole enterprise in 'em.
show me the way and the light I want to learn
― Edward III, Thursday, 15 May 2008 16:53 (sixteen years ago) link
also apologies for derailing a promising ethan/forks fite
― Edward III, Thursday, 15 May 2008 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link
i think outkast/organized noize falls into the "coloring with live instruments" camp rather than the "hey look we're playing hip-hop but with REAL INSTRUMENTS" a la the Roots or a bunch of other live hip-hop bands that i'd rather not mention.
― Jordan, Thursday, 15 May 2008 16:58 (sixteen years ago) link
^ okay I'll buy this but aquemini seemed like a point where they really pushed the live stuff to the front. maybe it was just the shock of following on from atliens, which is, if I remember right, a pretty stripped down rhymes + beats + loops affair. I need to go back and listen to aquemini again, it's been a while.
― Edward III, Thursday, 15 May 2008 17:04 (sixteen years ago) link
ozomatli 4 lyfe
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 15 May 2008 17:05 (sixteen years ago) link
there's an inherent cold + subterranean quality to a beat n loop track that few have been able to capture with instruments. actually the best example I can think of is schoolly d's welcome to america. but that band was pretty dire live.
― Edward III, Thursday, 15 May 2008 17:07 (sixteen years ago) link
i love samples + 808s + live instruments + all that shit. dope music is dope music you can make it with an orchestra or a fuckin hand clap i dont give a fuck
― and what, Thursday, 15 May 2008 17:14 (sixteen years ago) link
I like fish and grits and all that pimp shit
ATLiens.
― will, Thursday, 15 May 2008 17:17 (sixteen years ago) link
Not a single mention of "Got Purp" or "Vol. II" thereof?
Damn.
Given the limited choices, I think I have to go with Stankonia, and then Southernplayalisticcadillacfunkymusicforyourtrunk.
― B.L.A.M., Thursday, 15 May 2008 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link
i mean, I'll bump Southernplayalistic.. once in a blue moon, but otherwise I really don't ever listen to these dudes. OTOH ATL is a top ten classic for all time.
― will, Thursday, 15 May 2008 17:20 (sixteen years ago) link
Got Purp not so much Outkast, really.
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 15 May 2008 17:21 (sixteen years ago) link
id put got purp between atliens & speakerboxxx on my list
― and what, Thursday, 15 May 2008 17:23 (sixteen years ago) link
btw faggots im not making any big dickmove proclamations about how hip-hop should be because im the only one who knows lol or hwatever your insecure ass thinks when i say im not feeling aquemini or the love below i know a lot of heads who fuck with em & i cant hate its just not my kinda music just like southernplayalistic is not a lot of peoples kinda music
― and what, Thursday, 15 May 2008 17:24 (sixteen years ago) link
"btw faggots"
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 15 May 2008 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link
classic ethan spleen.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 15 May 2008 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link
I would punch you in the throat if you took that tone with me. Put your fucking headphones back on.
― B.L.A.M., Thursday, 15 May 2008 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link
Wow, this thread has gotten hysterically hardman.
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 15 May 2008 17:41 (sixteen years ago) link
"How dare you not appreciate the Scooby Doo soundtrack! I'll rape your pets!"
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 15 May 2008 17:43 (sixteen years ago) link
No. I simply said IF you were to take that tone with me - that whole up-speaky, contrarian, "actually" tone where you expect that your mere ASSERTION of the counterpoint is enough to have it be regarded as the truth - I would punch you in the throat, either literally or figuratively, or, more likely, both.
― B.L.A.M., Thursday, 15 May 2008 17:49 (sixteen years ago) link
And you come within 100 yards of my dog, I will shoot you in the nuts.
― B.L.A.M., Thursday, 15 May 2008 17:50 (sixteen years ago) link
But you live in Andorra. None of this is bound to ever happen.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 15 May 2008 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Great work. Now do the "Put your fucking headphones back on" line.
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 15 May 2008 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link
now go get your fuckin' shinebox.
― s1ocki, Thursday, 15 May 2008 17:53 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.thingsididlastnight.com/
― Jordan, Thursday, 15 May 2008 17:55 (sixteen years ago) link
This is much better than Surmounter and me fighting on the Portishead thread.
― HI DERE, Thursday, 15 May 2008 17:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Exactly. Thank you very much, slockski.
― B.L.A.M., Thursday, 15 May 2008 17:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Come on. Lets fucking argue. Don't just go all message board snark on me. Don't let this potentially great topic of argument fade into so many stupid, illiterate posts. So what if Ethan is entirely incapable of punctuation and all of his posts look like ee cummings? This shouldn't keep you from fucking arguing!
I need an argument. http://resim.urlax.net/image.aspx/Monty-Python-Argument-Sketch-resimleri-fotograflari-k3HaRFBSq9k.jpg
― B.L.A.M., Thursday, 15 May 2008 18:01 (sixteen years ago) link
Great. What's the topic again?
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 15 May 2008 18:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Do you really see 'Got That Purp' as an Outkast album?
Is the soundtrack to 'Class of 3000' an Outkast album? also: "cummings"
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 15 May 2008 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link
is Even In Darkness an Outkast album?
― Jordan, Thursday, 15 May 2008 18:09 (sixteen years ago) link
See, now we're arguing!
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 15 May 2008 18:10 (sixteen years ago) link