Pitchfork's Chris Ott takes No Prisoners

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Mine too, Ned...the pre-KMKMKM flipsides are so bad-- is it really worth it? Let's hope "Carnage Visors" is on there and not the Faith reissue.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:19 (twenty years ago) link

chis if popular really DID mean good then pitchfork's whole worldview would collapse anyway.

I am so quoting you next time i mount a britney spears defense -- "She gets thousands of letters from kids WAY less cynical than YOU! Like she gives a damn what you think you insignificant punk.""

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:20 (twenty years ago) link

I find the "more readers than Spin" claim a bit hard to swallow.

I check Pitchfork (and Stylus) in the morning, glance at what's being reviewed and maybe once a week read part of one of them. Am I getting counted in that readership? Do I get counted 20 times a month, since I check weekday mornings?

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:20 (twenty years ago) link

Message to Chris Ott's "fans": he doesn't give a fuck about you. You are beneath him. Except inasmuch as you're useful when he wants to diss people who criticize him.

― jackmeoff, Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:21 (twenty years ago) link

free internet vs. paid magazine. hmmm.

hey, everyone! this thread's title has turned into a self-fulfilling prophecy! it's not arrogance, it's a fact!

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:22 (twenty years ago) link

DO people who browse SPIN at the dry cleaners COUNT?!?!?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:22 (twenty years ago) link

(haha, "it's not arrogance, it's a fact" becomes an ILx meme starting NOW)

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:22 (twenty years ago) link

Chris honestly you have as much taste and charm as brent but none of the smarts.o

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:23 (twenty years ago) link

All complaints from jealous writers shocka.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:23 (twenty years ago) link

Jealous?

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:24 (twenty years ago) link

i have never ever seen someone who knows so much about the ass-end of the early 90s!

― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:24 (twenty years ago) link

Ninth recycling of "early 90s" jab from Jessplatestylee shocka.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:25 (twenty years ago) link

yes, I'm jealous you got to write a book for that 33 1/3 series and were honorably mentioned in that new Da Capo anthology. oh wait.

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:25 (twenty years ago) link

"You are part of my readership. That is our relationship. If you think I concern myself with your take on things, you're seriously overestimating your place in this world."

I think this should be your sig file.

― godownslow, Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:25 (twenty years ago) link

No, Matty, you're just jealous of my looks. One word: Atkins.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:26 (twenty years ago) link

That showed him.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:27 (twenty years ago) link

that's how you win an argument?

(ha xpost)

― s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:28 (twenty years ago) link

you know, for a guy who doesn't give a fuck about ILxdom, you sure as fuck seem like you're obsessed with me. I mean, I've never seen you. but you've seen me! how does that work again? oh yeah, I'm beneath you in the scheme of thing. gotcha.

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:28 (twenty years ago) link

scheme of thingS

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:29 (twenty years ago) link

chris ott: some panda talking.

― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:29 (twenty years ago) link

i'm jealous of all the... oh nevermind.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:29 (twenty years ago) link

Shouldn't the title of this thread be "Pitchfork's Chris Ott Lets One Seep Out".

Hey Ott, I just invited you to be my friendster. HOOOOTTTTTT!

― Carey (Carey), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:29 (twenty years ago) link

Mr Ott -- Maybe if you were a bit more ACCURATE with your critiques, we'd be a bit more understanding. But, you're not.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:30 (twenty years ago) link

alex is jealous coz chris gets to write for the most prestigious new york weekly glossy publi... oh wait.Ã¿

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:31 (twenty years ago) link

Cut the wolfing pal, I know plenty of people who know and revile your fat, frustrated ass. Let's stop pretending what gets said on the Internet is reality, we both box in the same class. The pseudo-intellectual coddling that goes on around this place is just homoerotic. When will you accept yourselves?

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:31 (twenty years ago) link

Ott's comebacks are so breathtakingly LAME that...God...I'm overcome with this weird desire to field him some insults just so he won't look like such a nine-year old.

This is just...fuck.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:32 (twenty years ago) link

chris if we didn't accept the internet as reality you would write NOWHERE.Ë™

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:32 (twenty years ago) link

I know plenty of people who revile me as well, too. Again, what is your point?

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:32 (twenty years ago) link

I rather enjoyed the article and it is rather accurate.

....but the Amps! Pacer is awesome. And I was sort of wondering where the Spin Doctors and Gin Blossoms were.

― ham on rye (ham on rye), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:32 (twenty years ago) link

or are you just pissed off that you can't get published in your local alt-weekly and I've been contributing to it regularly for five years despite never having lived in the city? DING! DING! DING! DING!

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:33 (twenty years ago) link

Chris, this place isn't homoerotic ENOUGH. Seriously.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:33 (twenty years ago) link

You all live in this world of traded opinions...it has no individuality, no life to it. It's so self-contained, fragile and fucking wrong, so stifling and unintelligent. I have always pitied you lot. Grow a pair, go let it out.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:34 (twenty years ago) link

"You are part of my readership. That is our relationship. If you think I concern myself with your take on things, you're seriously overestimating your place in this world."

― onemoretime, Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:34 (twenty years ago) link

Look, man, I'm no stranger to bile-ridden rants, and I'm not decrying your right to write them. I'd just suggest that you do a bit more homework before you submit them. Otherwise, your opinions come off like damp, meaningless flatulence.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:37 (twenty years ago) link

You all live in this world of traded opinions...it has no individuality, no life to it. It's so self-contained, fragile and fucking wrong, so stifling and unintelligent.

As opposed to Pitchfork? Jesus Christ, do Pitchfork writers confuse their e-zine with, I dunno, a real publication?

(Go ahead with that "jealous rock writer" comment - the only piece of music criticism I wrote was a one-paragraph blurb on Californication.)

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:38 (twenty years ago) link

The pseudo-intellectual coddling that goes on around this place is just homoerotic. When will you accept yourselves?

this is poetry.

though this is too:

Otherwise, your opinions come off like damp, meaningless flatulence.

― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:38 (twenty years ago) link

I dunno whether to laugh or...CRACK THE FUCK UP!

― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:39 (twenty years ago) link

(criticism I've ever written, that is)

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:39 (twenty years ago) link

dun dun
BOARD OF
dun dun
JEALOUS WRITERS

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:40 (twenty years ago) link

I'm frankly just stunned.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:40 (twenty years ago) link

i'm beginning to think ott is some living, jeff koons-style art prank.

― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:43 (twenty years ago) link

but music writing has such a smaller, less monied built-in audience for such a thing. must be in it for the art.

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:44 (twenty years ago) link

then he could do an album cover for Teenage Fanclub, and that could wind up in the cutout bins, and FULL CIRCLE, MAN

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:45 (twenty years ago) link

Chris, did you notice that Louise Post of Veruca Salt changed her website as a result of what you wrote about her bitterness? You have not lived in vain. The world is now a much less bitter place. Let's pop a cork to that!

― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:45 (twenty years ago) link

"Talent. My talent is different. You can't teach that. You don't have it. There's no secret. I'm good."
"It's the truth," he says.
He spits out a laugh.

"The Bible says speak the truth," he says. "It doesn't say anything about you having to like what I say."

Barry Bonds, 2003

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:55 (twenty years ago) link

as a message board troll, he's great

I come back after a few hours later and the thread is suddenly awesome. I've read the reviews and I don't really remember them, but I remember this stuff.

― fffv (fffv), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:56 (twenty years ago) link

I'd be curious to see the Australian equivalent of this article... perhaps written by someone who works in a second hand record store though.

― steve, Wednesday, 24 September 2003 01:59 (twenty years ago) link

This thread...and to think Chris, these people know nothing of Totally.

― dleone (dleone), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:01 (twenty years ago) link

Here's some constructive criticism Chris, since you are trolling for it:

1 - way too much copy, way too many page links. This piece cries for sarcasm in one sentence blurbs. This will not only make it more lively and entertaining, but less reliant on actual facts. And that's fine. (and as an aside, I'd say Pitchfork's biggest downfall is that there are too many damn words in every review; it's not the quantity dude, it's the quality.)

2 - keep the "homoerotic" comments to whatever it is you do with your boys when the town pump is being serviced. Then again, it's that kind of comment that makes Pitchfork such an easy target. So, I guess you'll keep that up.

3 - don't pick a fight with Matos. Or iLx. Why?

You.
Will.
Always.
Lose.

P.S. Bragging about having more pageviews than SPIN is not equitable to readership. Because if it is, you'd better start fucking paying your writers.

― don weiner, Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:02 (twenty years ago) link

Is Ott the one that is fond of using words like "mosat"? I think so.

― Nicolars (Nicole), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:03 (twenty years ago) link

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