Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure: Classic or Beyond Classic?

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Step Brothers had a pretty similar vibe. it didn't really register how strange that was until a while after

frogbs, Friday, 11 May 2018 16:58 (five years ago) link

in theory a B&T III could be great. I'm just kind of jaded by all the terrible fan service reboots that are out there right now though and it's hard for me to believe this will possess any of the creative spirit that made Bogus Journey a genuinely good sequel.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 11 May 2018 17:02 (five years ago) link

Like I can already picture this:

Bad guy: Use the Slipknot on them.
B&T: Excellent!
Bad guy: Hang them.
B&T Bogus!

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 11 May 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link

However if they have a So-crates-like encounter with Karl Marx that would redeem it for me

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 11 May 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link

Freaked is great and I'm happy to hijack this thread in the service of reemphasizing that point.

Alex Winter talked about Bill & Ted 3 in his Film Threat interview about Freaked (ca. 1992). It involved one of them being shrunk and deposited into the brain of the other in order to make him less of a dumbfuck. Or fuck-up. Can't remember the exact quote.

Delightful in Microdoses (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 May 2018 17:13 (five years ago) link

I'm just kind of jaded by all the terrible fan service reboots that are out there right now though and it's hard for me to believe this will possess any of the creative spirit that made Bogus Journey a genuinely good sequel.


does everything Winter or Solomon have said in the last few years about it not alleviate this for you?

chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Friday, 11 May 2018 19:58 (five years ago) link

Like I can already picture this:

Bad guy: Use the Slipknot on them.
B&T: Excellent!
Bad guy: Hang them.
B&T Bogus!

I'm guessing this is your example of a lazy sequel joke, but I actually did chuckle at it

Vinnie, Saturday, 12 May 2018 10:06 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

I was watching the Red Letter Media take on the first two, and right at the start one of the guys brings up a good point. The first one came out in 1989, and it's an iconically '80s movie. The second one comes out just two years later, '91, yet it already feels totally '90s. Really underscores that cultural shift.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 August 2020 00:53 (three years ago) link

First one was written in 1984-85 and shot in 1987 iirc? Second one was probably written and shot all in 1990 - even the Evan Dorkin sequel comic series started in 1991.

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Thursday, 27 August 2020 04:42 (three years ago) link

if the sequel had come out nowadays, it woulda had its original title

muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 August 2020 05:07 (three years ago) link

re-watching the original with a couple 90s babies who haven't seen it, and they are absolutely loving it. pure joy for us all

davey, Thursday, 27 August 2020 06:07 (three years ago) link

lol, I knew sic would correct me that it was shot a couple of years before release. Point still stands!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 August 2020 12:56 (three years ago) link

Unrelated - and I say this as someone who spent time in the valley as a kid - was there a male equivalent of a valley girl? A valley guy? Because these guys talk like surfers/stoners/skaters but aren't any of those things. If anything they're ... metalheads? But don't really act like that, either. It's one of the movie's many charms.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 August 2020 13:06 (three years ago) link

not correcting, just reasoning why!

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Thursday, 27 August 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link

Uh, Marina Men?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXDRHOvfFZk

everything, Thursday, 27 August 2020 20:08 (three years ago) link

Because these guys talk like surfers/stoners/skaters but aren't any of those things. If anything they're ... metalheads?

I grew up in the 80s 3000 miles from the Pacific and being a "surfer dude" was definitely a way of life that did not involve actual surfing

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 27 August 2020 20:34 (three years ago) link

Yeah, me too! There were surfer dudes at my school in suburban Philly. Though they also went surfing on the shore, as I recall. Still, would surfer dudes also be metalheads but not stoners? Hmm ...

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 August 2020 20:54 (three years ago) link

it's definitely cool to see an on screen adaptation of those types where they're actually likeable, idk if I can think of another example quite like it

frogbs, Thursday, 27 August 2020 21:06 (three years ago) link

spicoli ?

budo jeru, Thursday, 27 August 2020 21:08 (three years ago) link

valley dudes

calstars, Thursday, 27 August 2020 21:13 (three years ago) link

Ninja Turtles?

"...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 27 August 2020 21:13 (three years ago) link

mama's boyz

calstars, Thursday, 27 August 2020 21:15 (three years ago) link

oh...Ninja Turtles that's a good one

frogbs, Thursday, 27 August 2020 21:24 (three years ago) link

bossa nova!

Chevy nova?

muntjac wagner (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 August 2020 22:46 (three years ago) link

is it weird that i like bogus journey more

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 7 September 2020 01:29 (three years ago) link

(i watched them both for the first time this weekend)

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 7 September 2020 01:31 (three years ago) link

it’s very onbrand for you <3

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 7 September 2020 02:16 (three years ago) link

it really is

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 7 September 2020 02:42 (three years ago) link

Station!

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 7 September 2020 02:50 (three years ago) link

Because these guys talk like surfers/stoners/skaters but aren't any of those things. If anything they're ... metalheads?

Faith No More?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 September 2020 02:51 (three years ago) link

The casting of the two daughters in the new movie is so fucking good, especially brigitte lundy-paine ie Ted’s daughter Billie

her physicality & mannerisms are so hilariously on point and her wardrobe is a fever dream of perfection: rash vest + long shorts (dickies maybe?) with the classic 80’s sunset strip medallion belt & docs = chef’s kiss

i just love her, completely transfixing

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 7 September 2020 03:10 (three years ago) link

i made that very same observation to my wife when we watched this last week. she captures the essence of whoa keanu.

methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Monday, 7 September 2020 03:17 (three years ago) link

she's great. lil bill was less successful, on both an accent and mannerisms front, though I do like that actress in other stuff.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 September 2020 03:40 (three years ago) link

new movie's thread btw: Come anticipate Bill & Ted 3 aka BILL & TED FACE THE MUSIC with me

erratic wolf angular guitarist (sic), Monday, 7 September 2020 03:43 (three years ago) link

Because these guys talk like surfers/stoners/skaters but aren't any of those things. If anything they're ... metalheads?

Faith No More?

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, September 6, 2020 10:51 PM bookmarkflaglink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agaHP0eQHmU

Neanderthal, Monday, 7 September 2020 03:58 (three years ago) link


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