Zwan: the end

And yet I make it a personal rule not to read or hear a non-sung word from
Corgan: EVER.

Does it really matter what name he releases under? He's such an ego freak,
the only vocalists he works with sound even worse than him (despite the
fact he always sounds like an adolescent frogman with it's nuts in a vice).

even 'Blew Away' is pretty weak, and it was one of the more rawkin James songs. it's so strange, he can play soooo well, do the solo's all nice and stuff, but what he writes is such fluff.

i know, let's take away all the SP member's money and connections and make them start over!
tell them is they can even come close to replicating the passion they once had they can have it back, but if not- you get no more money!!!
bah, it'd never work...
ahh, 'the slink and impotence that money can afford'.

there was potential. the B-sides he wrote were much better than the album inclusion, particularly "Said Sadly." his voice and Nina Gordon's worked together quite nicely.

http://www.billycorgan.com/

no. wait.

i forget who it was. i'm fairly certain it was some horribly forgettable band, is why, but the adverts with the bright, technicolour photo of the bald, round back of some dude who was all dressed in black's head, with the text underneath reading "WHO IS EGGMAN?"

...er, yeah. always, always provoked a BC-solo giggle.

hrrm. XD

the very first song at the very first Zwan show still gives me chills. this is an astounding performance, first post-pumpkins song, the lyrics and the music are so optimistic and zen for BC - moving on without bitterness, wistfully looking back at everything the pumpkins accomplished but determined to move forward without the weight of the past. none of this came to pass obviously, but i find the optimism so incredibly moving, a wish un-wished. "a flower's still a flower crushed to dust inside my hand" - what a gorgeous way to describe the end of the pumpkins and what they meant, and still mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfaeOnSHq2c

yesterday you still seemed all right
you'd still hold me tight and whisper me my name
now the time has come to let this go

there i go walking straight but backwards
there i go talking upside down
there i go
there i go singing slow but faster
there i go dragging love around
there i go

staying up to find the way you'll always let me bloom
i am a part of everything you've loved and hated so
you know i'd pay a lot to cry, to try to understand
a flower's still a flower crushed to dust inside my hand

we were going somewhere
we were going somewhere

yesterday you still seemed so bold
you'd still draw the road i'd always walk upon

now i've paid for mistakes i've made
for the way i've strayed and never taken pause
now the time has come to let this show

there i go walking straight but backwards
there i go talking upside down
there i go
there i go singing slow but faster
there i go dragging love around
there i go

there i go singing slow but faster sometimes
up inside my youth, to wear a troubled crown
you know i'd pay a lot to cry, to try to understand
a flower's still a flower crushed to dust inside my hand

we were going somewhere
we were going somewhere
we were going somewhere

yesterday
yesterday
yesterday
yesterday we were going somewhere
we were going somewhere

20 years old huh? Should I relisten

Considering so myself

It's a good album.

Ned is right, and the answer is yes

nabisco otm

I wrote about it back in January. It's a good record.

still weirdly underrated, corgan's last good album

I wrote about it back in January. It's a good record.

― but also fuck you (unperson)

Good read! Got off on the wrong foot because I wont take “gish” slander because it’s my favorite SP album - but there’s so many quotes and context around the band I don’t think I was even aware of. Ok, I’ll listen to it!

https://www.stereogum.com/2220848/billy-corgan-has-65-unreleased-songs-for-a-new-zwan-box-set/news/

probably the most interesting thing he has in the vault so hopefully this won't take forever to release

great article unperson!

it's pretty funny he tries to portray the others are unreasonable (though pajo was probably a train wreck) when sweeney has collaborate with a million quirky personalities and people seem to like him.

this really rules as close as billy got to marquee moon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cQ66dYE4WY

Good piece, unperson! I was really into this album when it came out... I would listen to it while I played Super Mario Sunshine (in fact, I can still see Mario jumping to the tune of "Lyric" in my head). I also saw the band play at a club (Spaceland), which was pretty awesome.

But I’m glad to see that people have reappraised some of the music, because it is strong. In many ways, it’s like the great lost Pumpkins record. The quick backstory on it was when things started to go south in the band when we were making the record, Jimmy and I just took the record over and basically turned it into a Pumpkins record, because I felt the shadow of the record company over me.

Sure man, you "took it over"... what an asshole!