The Cure: The Head on the Door poll

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i had sax but I love it in this song, it's so incredibly 1986.

akm, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:41 (fourteen years ago) link

hate sax, that is.

akm, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:41 (fourteen years ago) link

my first cure album. it all seemed so mysterious to me. hmm, i'll have to think about it.

would you ask tom petty that? (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:51 (fourteen years ago) link

ok well if there wasn't a bug preventing me from voting, it'd be The Baby Screams

Shtick Monthly (country matters), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 00:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually, if I could see this poll I'd be voting for "Screw".

(stupid mod setup making some polls invisible to me)

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 01:56 (fourteen years ago) link

any poll with a jpg in the title doesn't allow a mod (even of one board) to vote for it

Shtick Monthly (country matters), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 01:58 (fourteen years ago) link

hence: please refrain from putting jpgs in poll titles

Shtick Monthly (country matters), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 01:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Hahahaha THAT's why polls are loco sometimes. Mystery solved!

Anyway BLOOD for fucking real. If it comes out with zero, remember my words!

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 02:17 (fourteen years ago) link

can a MOd delete the .jpg, we need the votes!

Bee OK, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 02:19 (fourteen years ago) link

here is the album cover:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51DV00XM0KL._SS500_.jpg

Bee OK, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Can a mod make a poll so heavy not even a mod can move it?

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 02:21 (fourteen years ago) link

seems like they can't fix that problem...:-(

Bee OK, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm going to rep for "Kyoto Song" which apparently has no love here. "It's so smooth it even feels like skin" always gave me the creeps... the good creeps.

Lostandfound, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I really love In Between Days, Push, Six Different Ways, Close to Me and A Night Like this but I think I have to vote for In Between Days.

Chaki Demus & Pliers (ENBB), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh my god, that Bob Larson clip upthread is hilarious and classic, BlackIronPrison. I can see Negativland having a field day with that one. I'm also impressed at the sheer range of groups mentioned in the first link. I guess going after "satanic" music turns out to be a good way to get a musical education!

Born Again Atheist (Bimble), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 03:51 (fourteen years ago) link

"A Night Like This", but this album is crowded with gems.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 06:09 (fourteen years ago) link

"In Between Days" would win for me in most polls, so...

Mark G, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 13:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I voted "In Between Days" too, but so many great songs.

rentboy, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 13:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Really, the only song on here I have no time for is "Push".

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 14:03 (fourteen years ago) link

"Sinking" is really the best of their synth-gunk ballads.

Bud Huxtable (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link

"The Baby Screams" is so so so great.

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 14:05 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm going with "A Night Like This," but it almost went to "Push" and "The Baby Screams." Damn tough one, this.

Alex in NYC, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link

My first Cure album and concert (Radio City, November 1985). Will rep now and forever for "The Blood".

Capitaine Jay Vee, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 20:59 (fourteen years ago) link

I could very happily vote for any song on this album except for "Push".

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Then why are you voting for "Push"?

da croupier, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link

don't make me find you

Obama seems to have the views of a 21-year-old Hispanic girl (HI DERE), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link

voting for "a night like this" but if "close to me" was the brass mix there'd be competition.

da croupier, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

You know I am actually totally fine w/sax on 'A Night Like This.'

cant go with u too many alfbrees (Abbott), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Whenever I buy a can of soda from a soda machine, the sound of the can landing reminds me of the opening of "In Between Days." Still, I'm going "Six Different Ways."

First time I heard "Close to Me," I thought it sounded like The Cars. I just realized this past weekend that it has such tight percussion versus all the reverb etc. on the rest of the album.

Eazy, Wednesday, 3 June 2009 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

this was and still is one of my favorite cure albums. it was tough to choose, but i went with "the baby screams".

banity 6 (tricky), Wednesday, 3 June 2009 23:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Whenever I buy a can of soda from a soda machine, the sound of the can landing reminds me of the opening of "In Between Days."

YES!!!

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 4 June 2009 01:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Not a bad song on this one. I love short albums with no filler. For me it's between "Push", "Sinking", and "A Night Like This". "The Blood" needs more love too.

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 4 June 2009 14:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Whenever I buy a can of soda from a soda machine, the sound of the can landing reminds me of the opening of "In Between Days."

YES!!! (seconded)

I don't think my heart will let me vote for anything other than In Between Days. And Mrs Fiendish would kill me.

I do have a tremendous soft spot for Push, too ...

a tiny, faltering megaphone (grimly fiendish), Thursday, 4 June 2009 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link

voting for "a night like this" but if "close to me" was the brass mix there'd be competition.

^^^

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 4 June 2009 16:35 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hprQpOdr34

Bee OK, Friday, 5 June 2009 06:05 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIRXadMO1To

Bee OK, Friday, 5 June 2009 06:05 (fourteen years ago) link

it's my birthday and this just seems right (my vote):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZZxwF6SXeQ&feature=related

Bee OK, Friday, 5 June 2009 06:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Happy B-Day, Bee OK! Those are some damn fine clips there. Someone said you can't get In Orange on DVD now, is that right? I'm really disappointed to hear that cause I'd definitely buy it. I remember seeing it in a theater in my hometown when it came out and it was funny because the place wasn't even half full but you just knew whoever was there was cool as shit.

Crispy Ambulance Douchebag (Bimble), Saturday, 6 June 2009 04:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 6 June 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Okay, wait a minute.

Did Robert Smith say at the beginning of the "Push" video "this is about when I used to wear a dress and travel on the train"?

Sullen - 1 a: gloomily or resentfully silent or repressed (Bimble), Sunday, 7 June 2009 09:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Okay I've offically flipped over the version of Push on that clip. WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED FROM A MUSIC VIDEO/GROUP? What else do you need? He looks so young! Not even growing his hair long. Jesus christ.

Sullen - 1 a: gloomily or resentfully silent or repressed (Bimble), Sunday, 7 June 2009 09:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Just when you think the song is over, he starts singing! Oh my god. This poll isn't even over yet.

Sullen - 1 a: gloomily or resentfully silent or repressed (Bimble), Sunday, 7 June 2009 09:33 (fourteen years ago) link

AHHH NO I've flipped my lid! I've officially flipped my lid over the Cure. Why doesn't anyone here want to talk about them? Holy hell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joHcumCAkCM

Sullen - 1 a: gloomily or resentfully silent or repressed (Bimble), Sunday, 7 June 2009 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 7 June 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Glad "Push" did so well and that every song got votes, although "Sinking" seems pretty low.

LeRooLeRoo, Monday, 15 June 2009 15:18 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah - and so does "The Blood" (which is one of the overlooked gems in their catalogue)

baaderonixx, Monday, 15 June 2009 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link

plz repost the poll results for us fail mods

sorry i poisoned u with nachos :( (HI DERE), Monday, 15 June 2009 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Option Votes
1. In Between Days 18
8. Night Like This 13
5. Push 10
7. Close to Me 8
4. Six Different Ways 6
6. Baby Screams 4
2. Kyoto Song 4
3. Blood 3
10. Sinking 3
9. Screw 2

baaderonixx, Monday, 15 June 2009 15:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Okay who are the awesome ppl who voted for "Screw"??? You are my new best friends!

sorry i poisoned u with nachos :( (HI DERE), Monday, 15 June 2009 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link

Sorry, I voted for "Push."

Don't know if this is the right thread to post this on, but the other night I heard a cover version of "Just Like Heaven" on a smooth jazz station and it blew my mind.

barney kestrel (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 19 June 2009 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link

I love The Top. I think Cure fans generally do but music magazines always seemed to hate it.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 21:32 (eight years ago) link

It's the last proper studio album in what I personally see as The Cure's "golden age" which began on their first album and ended with the release of the Standing On A Beach compilation.

HOTD is the last record where RS was the sole songwriter too, I think.

I love The Top and have never understood why folks are so down on it, but The Head On The Door is just magnificent. That line-up of The Cure is the Cure line-up as far as I'm concerned.

I adore The Top, that and Faith are my favourite Cure records. Definitely agree that the Head... line-up was their strongest, The Cure In Orange is just immense. I watched the VHS tape over and over and over when I was first discovering the band.

Birds in Hell, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 21:45 (eight years ago) link

RS was never the sole songwriter.

austinato (Austin), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 21:54 (eight years ago) link

If I remember the album credits correctly, HOTD is the only Cure album where RS acts as sole songwriter. He cowrote three of the songs on The Top with Lol.

DJP, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 21:55 (eight years ago) link

Ah, perhaps I'm getting ahead of myself then - I presume I misread backwards from the HOTD album credits...

I'd be interested to hear more from the band now about Lol's contributions. In the Deluxe Edition booklets for HOTD and KMKMKM (circa 2006 or so), RS is still definitely sticking the boot into the guy about being drunk and useless but I've always wondered how much of that is actually true. They've clearly patched things up since, going by his appearance at the Reflections shows.

This interview with Lol from Keyboard magazine in 1987 paints a markedly different picture than his usual characterisation as 'the drunk buffoon who could barely play, he seems pretty switched on and knowledgeable: http://www.musicfanclubs.org/cure/press/I15.html

Birds in Hell, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 22:01 (eight years ago) link

For lyrics, yes. Not song ideas though. Simon was always Robert's backboard.

austinato (Austin), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 22:44 (eight years ago) link

Which, if any, of the reissues has In Orange in the bonus material? Has it ever been issued in audio-only form?

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 22:46 (eight years ago) link

Nope, none.

austinato (Austin), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 22:55 (eight years ago) link

Not as a whole, anyway. Couple tracks were single b-sides, but the whole concert has never been on DVD or reissued.

austinato (Austin), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 22:56 (eight years ago) link

I said upthread that Robert Smith has always been generous about songwriting credits. He said that for KMKMKM he accepted ideas from others for the first time (e.g. "Fight" was Williams'). It wouldn't surprise me if he gave Tolhurst credit on those mid eighties sessions as reward for Tolhurt's loyalty.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 23:01 (eight years ago) link

According to Roger O'Donnell, the genesis of 'Homesick' (from Disintegration) came from Lol. As to the exact nature of his contributions over the years, who knows? I mean, of course that's him drumming on the records from 1979-1982, but it does seem to be the case that he was off his face a lot from the mid '80s onwards, and the band used to bully him quite a lot as a result. I think Alfred is right that Smith was generous with songwriting credits, with the exception of Japanese Whispers and The Top (which feature songs which have Smith as the sole writer), and The Head On The Door (which has Smith as the sole writer throughout), most of the songs are credited to the entire band (whoever was officially in The Cure at the time)

It's easy to belittle a bandmate's contributions when he jumped or was pushed at the peak of acrimony.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 June 2015 00:29 (eight years ago) link

Today is my birthday and looking at this thread sort of makes me sad as i see Bimble wished me happy birthday in this thread. RIP.

anyways some of you are so wrong, this is a classic album. the remastered version of this is incredible and made me appreciate all over again.

i voted for "Sinking" but these days my vote would be "Six Different Ways."

Bee OK, Thursday, 4 June 2015 01:23 (eight years ago) link

Six different ways is amaaazing

demonic mnevice (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 4 June 2015 02:06 (eight years ago) link

Yeah I didn't want to start nothing, so I backed off, but this album is a stone cold classic from beginning to end.

There's some really great, nearly shoegazey live versions of 'A Night Like This' from the Swing tour in the mid 90's.

austinato (Austin), Thursday, 4 June 2015 02:09 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

Me on the 30th anniversary:

http://thequietus.com/articles/18610-the-cure-head-on-the-door-review

Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 August 2015 13:38 (eight years ago) link

Nice write-up! I still hate "Push"!

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:55 (eight years ago) link

Hahah I was almost waiting for that.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 24 August 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link

I'll eternally find your dislike of 'Push' completely mystifying, DJP, even more so than your dislike of 'Domino Dancing'/Introspective... the guitar riff of 'Push' is just all-time for me, and it's one of those Cure songs that has stayed with me from the moment I first heard it!

nice Ned, thanks for the link.

Bee OK, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 01:38 (eight years ago) link

The slurred introduction on In Orange sold me on Push.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 01:40 (eight years ago) link

I love The Cure, I think their output up to and including Wish is pretty much unimpeachably wonderful, yet I too can't stand Push.

Birds in Hell, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 04:10 (eight years ago) link

I can barely make out what Smith is saying in most of the song introductions on In Orange, bar the song titles!

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 16:47 (eight years ago) link

Something about wearing a dress on the train or something?

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 16:47 (eight years ago) link

i think he says 'this is a song about when i used to wear dresses and ride the train'

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 16:54 (eight years ago) link

I think In Orange serves as a good introduction to the band as well as the first singles compilation does... it's a bit of a shame that it hasn't been re-released yet.

Is it September 3rd yet? (Turrican), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 17:16 (eight years ago) link

NICE gonna listen to this during work today

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 17:18 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, I think I'm going to give The Head On The Door a listen too... I expect I'll love it just as much as the other hundreds of times I've heard it. This album never, ever gets old for me.

I mean, is the Pitchfork '80s list really that fucking important? (Turrican), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link

Played Head On The Door last night and loved it. Followed it up with Japanese Whispers. Nice combo.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 26 August 2015 17:45 (eight years ago) link

otm on the summer feeling of "In Between Days"

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link

xpost:

Yeah, I completely agree! I've always been incredibly fond of Japanese Whispers... I know it's a compilation, but when I listen to it, I tend to listen to it front-to-back and I think it stands up well as a mini-album.

I don't particularly think it warrants that much discussion, to be qu (Turrican), Wednesday, 26 August 2015 17:49 (eight years ago) link

five years pass...

Some mad genius has given 'The Cure In Orange' a once over via deinterlacing and it looks pretty decent. Not as good as a pro clean up job but you can't have everything can you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVS9EFUMUts

piscesx, Friday, 16 April 2021 15:22 (three years ago) link

nice. love the version of 10.15 saturday night on there. push too!

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 16 April 2021 17:19 (three years ago) link

Very lucky to see IN ORANGE at the Cinefamily in 35mm some years back with a great audience. The beginning with them walking in unison through a fog of dry ice like the gangstas they were at the time is just hysterical. People nearly gave a standing ovation for Lol’s 2 note keyboard solo on the “A Forest” outro

When Lol was promoting his memoir, he attended another screening (at the American Cinematheque’s Egyptian Theatre in Hollywood), but I didn’t catch it

beamish13, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 05:41 (three years ago) link

That 4K interpolation looks TERRIBLE - I have a downloaded laserdisc rip which my TV upscales beautifully. Since I can't play my VHS tape any more.

assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 05:58 (three years ago) link


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