one of those cases where the writers forgot that "nudity" is not a character personality trait or plot point
I hope that they rectify the gender imbalance when it comes to nudity and give us a fully nude zombified Mountain. Or the Clegane vs Clegane battle that's inevitably coming is fully nude.
― mh, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 13:56 (five years ago) link
eh, my prediction is that the big battle with the dead will happen halfway through the season, leaving the final episodes open for half the characters to fight for the throne, and the other half to go on some mystical quest
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 14:02 (five years ago) link
if the mountain became a white walker at this point, would there even be a significant difference other than his loyalties?
I'm shipping Cersei and the Night King btw
― mh, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 14:03 (five years ago) link
But if they do not do something effective with Melisandre to justify her vulturous and useless presence for season after season, as well as the Lord Of Light, I’m going to be disappointed enough to write a user review somewhere
― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, April 16, 2019 8:23 AM (forty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
melisandre existed to bring jon snow back from the dead
― voodoo chili, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 14:04 (five years ago) link
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, April 16, 2019 9:02 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i kinda think so too--maybe around episode 4, they'll be vanquished somehow.
― voodoo chili, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 14:06 (five years ago) link
ughhhh I feel like they just killed Jon Snow to give Melisandre something to do
I just re-read a Melisandre synopsis and I had completely blanked on all her post-exile activities. Glad she's gone back to Volantis and I hope if she re-appears it's for only a very good reason
― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 14:38 (five years ago) link
like after everything she's done, how is she not dead? easily as monstrous an individual as Cersei
― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 14:39 (five years ago) link
The best aspects of Melisandre were her entire influence on the Stannis storyline, which gave it a twistedness I enjoyed, and also her somewhat shockingly reasonable take on the white walker threat. So many characters had been calling it bullshit and she immediately said “hold on this is bad we better get up there.”
― omar little, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 14:59 (five years ago) link
think a reasonable - though perhaps obvious - endgame here would be for Cersei to join up with the night king ("the living have done nothing but torment me I SIDE WITH THE DEAD" *gets zombified, makes out with the mountain*) and then melisandre comes back for a one-on-one battle of light vs darkthen the dragons make out
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 15:10 (five years ago) link
Cersei to join up with the night king ("the living have done nothing but torment me I SIDE WITH THE DEAD"
this would rule
― Simon H., Tuesday, 16 April 2019 15:14 (five years ago) link
Also there was something annoyingly flat and anticlimactic about the scene when Arya and the Hound came face-to-face again. Way to go ruining your best double-act there.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 15:24 (five years ago) link
There's just something very Monkey Island about all those scenes where you see a load of disparate characters standing together and only a couple of them have any dramatic function in the scene.
love any monkey island reference ever but not getting this one - what do you mean?
― Mordy, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 15:29 (five years ago) link
http://images.gog.com/8cfae96b35a9b5c0d4435c7f83eeb557e50b6f614e7a7424d2ed6bc9840ce050_product_card_v2_mobile_slider_639.jpg*Talk to THE HOUND*
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 15:32 (five years ago) link
pop connection I had not expected
Need a cure for your #GameofThrones katzenjammer? How bout a look back at when Brienne of Tarth aka Gwendoline Christie donned rabbit ears for @goldfrapp's Strict Machine single release? pic.twitter.com/xCjzw1wOEU— MuteUSA (@MuteUSA) April 15, 2019
― mh, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 16:12 (five years ago) link
https://imgflip.com/i/2yqckg
― mick signals, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 16:28 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgflip.com/2yqckg.jpg
― mick signals, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 16:29 (five years ago) link
Hilariously bad dialogue.
― Audrey Tautoulogy (Leee), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 17:02 (five years ago) link
I think they're allowed one 'the gang's all back together' episode without major developments, and it was a very enjoyable example of that genre. They better hit the ground running next ep though.
Hopfully the final major conflict of the series will be Dany vs Jon, as seeded in this episode - much more scope for genuine drama than everyone against the zombies.
― chap, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 17:08 (five years ago) link
you could replace any of the other leads (except perhaps Maisie Williams) with other actors and lose nothing of the character.
Costa-Waldau is good imo.
― chap, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 17:10 (five years ago) link
i don't hear enough praise for liam cunningham as davos. i tell people he's my favorite character and they think i'm crazy
― voodoo chili, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 17:16 (five years ago) link
Can't really imagine anyone else as The Hound. And don't want to.
― nashwan, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 17:18 (five years ago) link
Heady is tops (as was the actor who played Robert Baratheon in the first season) and most of the character actors are pretty great. But they whiffed big time on almost all the younger cast—aside from maybe Samwell.
― ryan, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 17:20 (five years ago) link
whatever the intent w/Daenerys is at this point in the story, Emilia Clarke was playing her up as more arrogant and cold, and the dialogue demanding loyalty and recognition as queen seems to at the very least be laying the groundwork for a shift into crazy Targaryen territory. I do think some of the awkwardness between her and Jon in the romantic scenes was fairly intentional, though if anyone found the scenes awful nonetheless i'm not going to make an argument in their favor beyond this.
and the previews of next week's confrontation w/Jaime suggest we'll again be reminded of the apparently quite good reasons why he killed the Mad King...
― omar little, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 17:22 (five years ago) link
come on man Rickon was outstanding, huge hole in the show now that he's peaced out
― omar little, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 17:23 (five years ago) link
huge hole in his chest too
― voodoo chili, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 17:25 (five years ago) link
Cunningham, Headey, Coster-Waldau, Christie, McCann are all great imo. Iain Glen has his moments, he's a likable presence. I like the dudes who play Beric and Gendry a lot. Maisie Williams has had to carry a lot of the narrative load and i think she's done a great job. Carice van houten has a ridiculous character to play but i think she's generally done well with it.
out of the RIP characters: Bean, Fairley, Dance, Dormer, Dilanne, dude who played Roose, a couple others I'm forgetting...all really excellent.
most of the ones I'm not a huge fan of I don't even mind that much, the only time i had to grit my teeth was when the sand snakes were still a thing.
― omar little, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 17:32 (five years ago) link
otm, don't forget diana rigg
― voodoo chili, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 17:48 (five years ago) link
For whoever's interested - I put this mix together (featuring a shedload of GoT samples):
https://www.mixcloud.com/metalmaester/game-ov-thr0nes-the-metal-mixtape/
― Siegbran, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 17:55 (five years ago) link
Maisie Williams has had to carry a lot of the narrative load and i think she's done a great job.
Agreed. She should have a great future ahead of her, though I really hope that her height and older-than-she-looks-like appearance won't doom her into being typecast kid characters, or eternally young ones (like she did in Doctor Who), for the next 15 years.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 18:24 (five years ago) link
Conleth Hill is great imo. I agree that Onion Knight is great. I guess some of the really strong actors had other shit to do so weren't around long, eg Ciaran Hinds or Bean.
― FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 18:26 (five years ago) link
Most of these characters (Davos, Varys, the Hound, Gendry, Friendzone Guy) are what I meant by second-tier characters and yeah the actors playing them are all good, great it some cases. The Kingslayer is one of the leads and Coster-Waldau is excellent in the role, but I don't think there's as much subtlety in his performance as Lena H's.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 18:30 (five years ago) link
kinda wanna more deeply extrapolate my thinking behind zombie queen cersei (she's already got a zombie army and a necromancer; presumably the night king has been in touch) but i have other shit to to do; even so, this is one easter egg i missed that I'm deeply amused by
“that boy eddie, the ginger, came back with his face burned off. he’s got no eyelids now.” pic.twitter.com/Sq7oBnbhWd— dunk my donuts (@og_hapsburg) April 15, 2019
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 18:33 (five years ago) link
tbf I'm not sure the extremely fragmented scenes help the actors much either.
― FernandoHierro, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 18:36 (five years ago) link
I guess some of the really strong actors had other shit to do so weren't around long, eg Ciaran Hinds or Bean.
Bean was quite good in this episode playing Euron and two of the prostitutes.
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 18:39 (five years ago) link
The Kingslayer is one of the leads and Coster-Waldau is excellent in the role, but I don't think there's as much subtlety in his performance as Lena H's.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 18:41 (five years ago) link
another standout actor whose character is now dead: Charles Dance
tywin was maybe my favorite character on the whole show
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 18:53 (five years ago) link
"Not you..."
― nashwan, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 20:08 (five years ago) link
can't believe I didn't spot that Sheeran reference.Brienne is a great character but I thought Christie was a bit wobbly to start off with.When Lena's on-screen she totally raises the bar, agreed.
― kinder, Tuesday, 16 April 2019 22:26 (five years ago) link
Wait, was Brienne even onscreen? I must've missed her.
― Audrey Tautoulogy (Leee), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 23:13 (five years ago) link
LOL yeah I missed that ref was to Sheehan as well, fuck if I'dve twigged who "eddie" was tbf
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 16 April 2019 23:25 (five years ago) link
My leaderboard of favourite performances (with 'how well the character was written' as a factor')
Main cast
Top tier
TywinOlenna (not main but too good not to rank)CatelynNedHoundMargaery, oddly enough, I feel like her part was really hard to do as well as she didRobert
Excellent
BronnJorahTyrionAryaCerseiJaimeVarysTommen (best of the kids imo)
Good
SansaDavosRobbGendryRooseShae
Whatever
Grey WormYgritteTormundRamsayJon SnowTheonJoffrey
No Thank You
MissandeiBranTalisaSamwell (though the actor is good)BrienneLittlefingerHigh SparrowJaqenDaenerys
Raspberries!
Ellaria SandStannisMelisandreGilly
Supp. cast
Hon. mention: Pycelle, Hodor, Osha (weirdly? odd choice of performance but she committed to it and I liked it), Luwin, Aemon
No mention: Lancel, Alliser, Loras, Beric, Pod, Yara, Qyburn, Meera, Jojen,
Dishonorable mention: Euron
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 02:55 (five years ago) link
i actually kinda liked dillane as stannis. he was so dour that it was funny.
― voodoo chili, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 03:01 (five years ago) link
Every time I think of anything related to Stannis/Shireen/Melisandre I get a headache, I mean, Euron is the worst but at least he's quotable. I cannot remember a single word that Stannis uttered and am happy about that
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 03:03 (five years ago) link
I gotta give to Joffrey one of my favourite laughs in the series. "I hear that Stannis never smiles." *pulls out his sword about four inches* "I'll give him a red smile. From ear to ear."
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 03:07 (five years ago) link
My favorite voices on the show: Roose Bolton, Beric Dondarrion.
― Conceptualize Wyverns (latebloomer), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 03:19 (five years ago) link
I must be the only person who liked Littlefinger!
Hey, wither Podrick?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 04:19 (five years ago) link
xp jorah mormont has my favorite voice on the show
― voodoo chili, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 04:25 (five years ago) link
and yet here i stand
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 17 April 2019 04:50 (five years ago) link
Couldn’t care less about Daenerys but something about Jorah confessing his undying love and devotion toward her makes me emotional
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 06:37 (five years ago) link
Jorah was intriguing in the first season but has become probably the most tediously one-note character in the whole show, even if the actor is good. There are characters like Tyrion or Bronn or the Hound where you feel yourself internally cheering whenever they appear on screen, and he's at the other end of the spectrum for me, just an enthusiasm drain. (See also Jaqen, Missandei & Grey Worm, frankly Theon at this point).
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 17 April 2019 08:10 (five years ago) link