So the only ones who would find her to be a good ruler are the slaves she freed
and (until recently) a ton of actual characters!
Speaking of which, I have to say I haven't really missed Daario Naharis but it is kinda weird that he's not around for all the action
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― Simon H., Monday, 6 May 2019 19:40 (five years ago) link
hey stuffed misandry in a fridge!
lol
given clarke's career trajectory, you may be reading a bit much into her choices.
Was aiming for sarcasm there, in case it wasn't clear.
Clarke was perfectly fine in the Han Solo movie, she just doesn't seem to be cut to play the sort of regal and authorative character Daenerys is supposed to be, it's hard to see why Tyrion et al would be so impressed by her.
― Tuomas, Monday, 6 May 2019 19:41 (five years ago) link
I've been watching the show from the beginning the last week (just got to the red wedding) while simultaneously watching the new episodes (yes, a very dumb tv watching tactic) and dany is pretty monomaniacal from (almost) the very beginning. basically as soon as the dothraki start respecting her as queen she's on a one way trip to the iron throne.
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 6 May 2019 19:45 (five years ago) link
that's a pretty good watching tactic, imo. you start to notice the references and echos back to earlier encounters a lot more easily if you're watching the episodes in parallel
that is, when they remember to do those things
― mh, Monday, 6 May 2019 19:56 (five years ago) link
woman has destiny to rule and consistently takes steps to accomplish this = monomaniacalman does the same = hero
― sarahell, Monday, 6 May 2019 19:59 (five years ago) link
counterpoint: Stannis
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 6 May 2019 20:00 (five years ago) link
Stannis wasn't set up as having a destiny to rule ...
― sarahell, Monday, 6 May 2019 20:01 (five years ago) link
Stannis was like, if someone convinced Hot Pie he should be the captain of the Kings Guard
I seem to remember that someone was telling him he had one
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 6 May 2019 20:02 (five years ago) link
lol and everybody knew that was full of shit!
― sarahell, Monday, 6 May 2019 20:03 (five years ago) link
Remember when the two of them knew a sooper seekrit way in and out of the Red Keep? That's OK, neither do they!!
― Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Monday, May 6, 2019 12:02 PM (one hour ago)
the point was not to invade but to give Cersei an opportunity to step down peacefully so fewer people die. ...
― sarahell, Monday, 6 May 2019 20:06 (five years ago) link
stannis is such a boring character. also monomaniacal. also believes he has the right to rule due to being robert's heir given that "his" children are not his
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 6 May 2019 20:07 (five years ago) link
well yeah, his claim is pretty similar to Dany's. He was a relative of the murdered king. He has some supernatural freaks telling him that he's the choice of the Lord of Light.
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 6 May 2019 20:11 (five years ago) link
the entire subplot with Stannis was vile enough that everyone, including Melisandre, decided to wash their hands of the entire affair as soon as he was gone
― mh, Monday, 6 May 2019 20:11 (five years ago) link
but he spent many years of his life being storms end dude, middle brother ... like he wasn't raised with this destiny.
― sarahell, Monday, 6 May 2019 20:11 (five years ago) link
like Stannis is kinda the Joe Biden of Westeros ...
― sarahell, Monday, 6 May 2019 20:12 (five years ago) link
dany's older brother was the rightful heir until drogo killed him
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 6 May 2019 20:12 (five years ago) link
no matter what Danerys was up to (including incinerating Sam's family) it was nothing compared to the shit Stannis and Melisandre were doing in the name of whatever prophecy
― mh, Monday, 6 May 2019 20:13 (five years ago) link
also "rightful heir". weird how much stock people put in the rules when obv no-one in this universe actually obeys them
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 6 May 2019 20:13 (five years ago) link
also dany's claim is always very weird because it's predicated on the mad king being murdered and his reign ending that way as being a bad thing when he was obv terrible
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 6 May 2019 20:15 (five years ago) link
xp every time Dany mentions her brother I groan and remember how he was the smarter but nearly as loathsome as Joffrey and at no moment do I feel bad about his fate
― mh, Monday, 6 May 2019 20:15 (five years ago) link
he was the worst, i was very stoked to see him getting his head melted
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 6 May 2019 20:16 (five years ago) link
there was another character who didn't have any prophecies or bloodlines backing him, but who nonetheless took a lot of actions to get himself into a position to rule something or other, and he was mostly treated as a villain.
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 6 May 2019 20:18 (five years ago) link
the show is pretty hard on people who believe their own hype
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 6 May 2019 20:19 (five years ago) link
one of my coworkers said that he could imagine Euron carrying around a bag of feral cats and throwing them at people
seems about right
― mh, Monday, 6 May 2019 20:20 (five years ago) link
Euron is the first Proud Boy of Westeros imo
― omar little, Monday, 6 May 2019 20:26 (five years ago) link
I couldn't completely agree with people referring to the Greyjoys as "the white trash of Westeros" but I get where they're coming from
― mh, Monday, 6 May 2019 20:34 (five years ago) link
Theon and Yara's dad going on about how Theon "didn't pay the iron price" for his fancy shirt which apparently means you only get a cool shirt if you take it off someone you killed was really something. And judging from Dad Greyjoy's look, he probably did that decades ago and never changed his shirt
― mh, Monday, 6 May 2019 20:36 (five years ago) link
implication was that they basically don't have commerce because paying the gold price for anything is ignoble. must be hard to do your grocery shopping on pyke
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 6 May 2019 21:09 (five years ago) link
Dany and her storyline have been trash since at least season 3, if not 2. They literally repeated her one story 3 times: rulers refuse to obey her or capture her, then her dragon breathes fire and the rulers all die/surrender. Repeat. Which might explain why Dany is so tactically dumb: all she ever had to do was say Descarys and she won.
If she ended up being a Mad Queen it would be the most interesting thing to happen to her since she walked out of the fire in S1E10.
― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Monday, 6 May 2019 21:18 (five years ago) link
I agree (and I openly wished for it earlier itt I believe), but as other people have said, shoehorning that turn into the last few episodes is pretty shitty
― Simon H., Monday, 6 May 2019 21:20 (five years ago) link
i sorta resent this show for it's full infiltration of my life, like i can't even buy grocerieshttps://www.foodkick.com/product/win_pid_5003600
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 6 May 2019 21:22 (five years ago) link
4☹4
― Evan, Monday, 6 May 2019 21:24 (five years ago) link
I hadn't connected this to the Mad King, but Missandrei's last word basically being "fire em up with the dragon" is really close to his last command of "burn them all"
― mh, Monday, 6 May 2019 21:30 (five years ago) link
not sure how they're going to justify the dragon being able to do much considering all the mega-crossbows on the ramparts
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Monday, 6 May 2019 21:31 (five years ago) link
maybe they can design some devices to eliminate big crossbows
― FernandoHierro, Monday, 6 May 2019 21:32 (five years ago) link
bigger crossbows
― FernandoHierro, Monday, 6 May 2019 21:33 (five years ago) link
I liked that they just stuck the big crossbows everywhere. Sort of thought they were going to fire Missandrei out of one when Danny etc turned up.
― Blandford Forum, Monday, 6 May 2019 21:35 (five years ago) link
so, did they use all that wildfire when blowing up ships and the big church, or does Tyrion know where the rest is?
― mh, Monday, 6 May 2019 21:35 (five years ago) link
it was a bit weird that the crossbow bolt had enough velocity to slice through a ship
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― FernandoHierro, Monday, 6 May 2019 21:35 (five years ago) link
*Dany
― Blandford Forum, Monday, 6 May 2019 21:36 (five years ago) link
giant thick armor, of course
― these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Monday, 6 May 2019 21:37 (five years ago) link
bet Euron was touched that everyone knew about his baby already
― kinder, Monday, 6 May 2019 21:37 (five years ago) link
as someone posting about quite the luck developing the world's best anti-ship and anti-dragon weapon all in one xxxp
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 6 May 2019 21:38 (five years ago) link
the worst version of this is Jaime sneaking in and blowing up the castle in King's Landing, closing the loop he started when killing the Mad King and rendering part of his life moot
― mh, Monday, 6 May 2019 21:39 (five years ago) link
it's called a ballista, guys
i believe 'big crossbow' is what qyburn's original prototype was called
― FernandoHierro, Monday, 6 May 2019 21:41 (five years ago) link
I mean, don't get me wrong, "big crossbow" does have a ring to it
― mh, Monday, 6 May 2019 21:42 (five years ago) link
i just rewatched the big crossbow reveal scene. so good.
https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/maester-qyburns-big-anti-dragon-crossbow-looks-stupid-1797198333
― FernandoHierro, Monday, 6 May 2019 21:44 (five years ago) link