Prince "Sexy MF" C/D

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these days, he kinda overdoes the 'im a grown man' angle. give me snotty juvenille prince any day!

okok, Friday, 9 September 2005 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link

thinking about it more, okok is probably right in terms of overt JB homagery. I was thinking about his stagecraft, but early on it's a lot more P-Funk than JB.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 9 September 2005 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link

MJ Prince and James Brown?!? wtf I have never heard of this. where is this footage.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 September 2005 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link

You should be able to find it on most p2ps - and I'd say it's fairly embarrasing -when he leans down towards the crowd you can clearly see some kind of mental breakdown/panic attack. And that's not including his embarraing arrival (like a little girl being carried by her father), and departure (it's the way JB just makes a quick check before getting back to the show). Hopefully that doesn't give too much away - it's definetly worth tracking down.

Jedmond (Jedmond), Friday, 9 September 2005 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link

so this was at some James Brown concert...? what were the circumstances, etc. I mean, it seems unusual that all three would be in the same place at the same time, something I would normally only expect to see at an awards show or something. this was early 80s, I'm guessin...?

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 9 September 2005 22:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not sure, but guessing by appearance I would say 82-3. James Brown has heard MJ is in the crowd, and calls out to him. MJ appears, does a couple of tricks and whispers to JB and then retreats off the stage. JB then steps forward and tells the crowd that MJ has just informed him that Prince is in the house - he and the crowd start chanting for Prince - who after a while appears in some sort of gladitorial gear - stripped down to the waist except for some shoulder protection. - and seriously just look for it, when I first heard of it, I just typed the words "jackson" and "prince" into Kazaa (it was a while ago) and it came up almost instantly.

Jedmond (Jedmond), Friday, 9 September 2005 23:18 (eighteen years ago) link

oh damn i forgot his piggyback entrance.. nevermind i guess it was pretty embarrassing, ha.

I can put it up in yousendit or something, if it's not around in Soulseek et al

Jay Smooth (jsmooth995), Friday, 9 September 2005 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I love how this incident is viewed (by some Prince fams) not only as the incident which spurred him on to outdoing JB (and MJ), but also the reason for his puritanical views on drinking and drugs (due to the belief he had to utterly drug addled for that incident to occur).

Jedmond (Jedmond), Saturday, 10 September 2005 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

YSI!

kit brash (kit brash), Saturday, 10 September 2005 00:54 (eighteen years ago) link

jedmond, please dont EVER call prince fans FAMS. please, dont do it.

xpost - HAHA, i forgot the piggyback entrance!

okok, Saturday, 10 September 2005 08:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I love that vid clip! It makes Chick Corea look like a total bitch for one, which is funnier after you consider the badass-levels he displays in Purple Rain.

Drowning Man (Barima), Saturday, 10 September 2005 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Song is OK, but the longform video for this is silly fun. Prince in his wannabe-gangsta phase with a dorky entourage. Then there's the poolside video of Prince in his Speedo with said dorky cronies roller skating around him!

I love "The Morning Papers" on that Symbol album.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 10 September 2005 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Trust me I think it's fairly safe to refer to the Prince fans (who were discussing the video's implications) as fams - if only because they themselves are sad enough to refer to themselves as fams. + If I can imagine you buying an official NPG t-shirt, then I reserve the right to refer to you as a fam.

Jedmond (Jedmond), Sunday, 11 September 2005 01:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I think "Sexy MF" is a pretty good song, but I woulda liked it more if it were a bit shorter. To me, those JB-style dropouts (or whatever you call em) begin to lose their impact when they're repeated a dozen-or-so times in a song. Singles-wise, I prefer "Gett Off" - in fact, Diamonds & Pearls may be my favourite Prince LP of the era. Tho I'm admittedly only a moderate fan - of his '90s output, I've only heard 6 and currently own just 4. (Or 7 and 5 respectively, counting the black album.)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Sunday, 11 September 2005 06:15 (eighteen years ago) link

"they themselves are sad enough to refer to themselves as fams"

i see your point.

xxpost - prince's bodyguard isnt the jazz musician chick corea, its chick er, huntsbury?

okok, Sunday, 11 September 2005 08:54 (eighteen years ago) link

ten years pass...

Classic! Granted, it's not the most accomplished thing Prince ever did, but total fun.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Saturday, 23 April 2016 19:54 (eight years ago) link

fun but a dud really.
also i hate that prince is so famous for this song.
its prince reduced to a silly punchline.
also the beginning of his increasingly worse JB pastiches.

StillAdvance, Sunday, 24 April 2016 19:10 (eight years ago) link

ayo turrican not that I'm mad but are you going to answer every prince thread on ilm

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Sunday, 24 April 2016 19:36 (eight years ago) link

SCRUB THE DISHES!

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Sunday, 24 April 2016 19:46 (eight years ago) link

Eye seem 2 remember there was a censored version 'o' this which replaced the expletives in the song with a sample 'o' Prince doing a high-pitched "aaaaawwwaa!" or something. Eye remember it sounding quite comical.

2rrican (Turrican), Thursday, 28 April 2016 00:16 (eight years ago) link

This tune bangs in the club.

Tim F, Thursday, 28 April 2016 01:29 (eight years ago) link

this is played in clubs?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 April 2016 01:44 (eight years ago) link

I've heard it several times. The drum line (which feels like it's constantly running slightly ahead of itself) always sounds amazing in that context.

Tim F, Thursday, 28 April 2016 02:11 (eight years ago) link

yeah i think someone was dissing the npg drummer in one of the other threads and I immediately thought "but the drums in sexy mf are tight as hell"

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 April 2016 02:16 (eight years ago) link

most striking element no question

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 April 2016 02:20 (eight years ago) link

this is maybe my favourite Prince song.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Thursday, 28 April 2016 08:48 (eight years ago) link

Eye seem 2 remember there was a censored version 'o' this which replaced the expletives in the song with a sample 'o' Prince doing a high-pitched "aaaaawwwaa!" or something. Eye remember it sounding quite comical.

I have this on single with the "clean" radio edit, and Prince's "you sexy motherwowwaa!" does indeed sound pretty funny. IIRC this was also the version MTV played? I remember laughing to it with my friends back in 1992...

Tuomas, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 13:00 (eight years ago) link

It's kind of an 'ew!' thing. It's the first version I heard because that's what they played on UK radio when it came out.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 13:09 (eight years ago) link

FWIW I played this out on Friday night and it did indeed bang.

TARANTINO! (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 13:10 (eight years ago) link

Also, you can add my voice to praises for Michael Bland, NPG's drummer. Those two albums have the funkiest drums of any Prince albums, if we're talking about traditional drumming skills. I still prefer the 80s drum machines, though. (And Sheila E. is obviously good too, but in a more idiosyncratic way than Bland.)

Tuomas, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 13:17 (eight years ago) link

And I love the fact that the also-supremely-funky organ on this tune is plaid by a guy who, at the time, looked like this:

http://members.toast.net/talien/gallery/reign/tommyb.gif

Tuomas, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 13:21 (eight years ago) link

Tony Barbarella in the house.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 13:25 (eight years ago) link

Who's that

Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 13:26 (eight years ago) link

That's the Trent Reznor "before" yearbook picture.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 13:36 (eight years ago) link

I never set eyes on Prince but the closest I came was seeing Michael Bland working the fuck out of a drum kit in a music store in Minneapolis before he started working with Prince.

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 14:34 (eight years ago) link

bland's work on "love 2 the 9's" is exquisite

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 14:48 (eight years ago) link

Food for thought: both Bland and Bowie's longstanding drummer Sterling Campbell served time in Soul Asylum.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 14:54 (eight years ago) link

The times I saw Michael Bland play for Soul Asylum, they were so great - throw Tommy up there on bass and it was like a whole new band.

BlackIronPrison, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 14:56 (eight years ago) link

Michael Bland apparently a big XTC fan, too — he lobbied to play on "Apple Venus."

goodoldneon, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:27 (eight years ago) link

Really? I didn't know that!

Turrican, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:42 (eight years ago) link

Uh I was asking tuomas actually

Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:52 (eight years ago) link

Bland joining Prince is possibly the exact moment his output started to suffer imo. surprised at the love here.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:56 (eight years ago) link

Not blands fault in any way

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:56 (eight years ago) link

yeah, probably not to any significant degree. but as noted on some other Prince thread, 1990 feels like the first time Prince is backed up by, like, a normal, modern R&B band and some of his production idiosyncrasies/techniques start to suffer, and Bland's heavy-footedness is part of that sort of conventional sound creeping in.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 17:58 (eight years ago) link

Bland is an excellent drummer and the best NPG member. Shakey's right about Prince's gradual decline, but Bland anchored the best of it.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:02 (eight years ago) link

best NPG member.

is faint praise

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:08 (eight years ago) link

he'd have been a good drummer in any band.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 May 2016 18:11 (eight years ago) link

I find the whole NPG era (or what I think of as the NPG era...those first few records in the 90s) to be kind of fascinating in that while they def. lose some (even a lot) of the edge that made Prince unique, they so clearly are what he imagined would appeal to a black audience at the time – featuring Bland and Seacer's heavily syncopated grooves, Gaines' Aretha-esque wailing vocals, Barbarella's super funky organ parts, and, of course, Tony M rapping (and the dancers). It was like he was trying to put together his own Muscle Shoals All Stars in some 90s context. As a whole, it doesn't really work but in the instances when it does—mostly singles like "Get Off," "D&P," "7," this song—the results tended to be as weird and outrageous as anything in the guy's catalogue.

On another note, I played this song for my 8 year old the other day. I'm probably a horrible parent for doing it but I really wanted her to understand why her mom and I loved this Prince guy so much (it also provided a nice opportunity to let her know that some people use words to get a rise out of folks). Interestingly, her semi-embarrassed giggle was pretty much identical to the reaction everyone I knew had when it came out during college. I'm probably going to Hell.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 4 May 2016 04:09 (eight years ago) link


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