best outkast album

tons of classic rap-a-lot stuff is mike dean on organ/guitar/bass

google results #1 for ll cool j unplugged

http://jasper.webvomit.com/images/random/60.jpg

pretty much all the sugar hill shit was doug wimbush and those dudes right?

live instrumentation in rap? that's unheard of and impossible...also wtf

southernplayalistic!
i think only because i got busted trying to rack the cassette when it came out(casually mentioning...). but it is the one album that still gets the most play by me.

cassettes were so much easier...mp3s are not as fun to gank

i always felt like sir mix-a-lot should get more credit for keeping live instrumentation/keyboard 80s electro type production alive during the time between the early 80s and dudes like pharell and timbaland

mike dean looks like one of the the guys who hang out outside of berklee and at guitar center on comm ave

(and there are no rules in music wrt to instrumentation or not or samples or not)

there is one rule: is it any good?

I can't read dj quik's name without tim dog's voice adding "can suck my dick" in my head.

first name: dj quik
last name: can suck my dick

however this is no impugnment of dj quik's talented instrumentalism, I'm just sayin'

ugk had dude from the meters playing guitar on ridin dirty

the coup does it
main source shouldn't have

i mean this really isn't even an argument

it really isn't, there's some willful misreading going on.

yeh, actual instruments are more predominant in rap now and it's done great things for improving the quality of live shows, but I also know if I put together a list of my favorite rap tracks there wouldn't be many purely rooted in live instrumentation so y'all better quantify. and there's a difference between coloring a track with instruments (e.g. j-live's "satisfied") and rooting yr whole enterprise in 'em.

show me the way and the light I want to learn

also apologies for derailing a promising ethan/forks fite

i think outkast/organized noize falls into the "coloring with live instruments" camp rather than the "hey look we're playing hip-hop but with REAL INSTRUMENTS" a la the Roots or a bunch of other live hip-hop bands that i'd rather not mention.

^ okay I'll buy this but aquemini seemed like a point where they really pushed the live stuff to the front. maybe it was just the shock of following on from atliens, which is, if I remember right, a pretty stripped down rhymes + beats + loops affair. I need to go back and listen to aquemini again, it's been a while.

ozomatli 4 lyfe

there's an inherent cold + subterranean quality to a beat n loop track that few have been able to capture with instruments. actually the best example I can think of is schoolly d's welcome to america. but that band was pretty dire live.

i love samples + 808s + live instruments + all that shit. dope music is dope music you can make it with an orchestra or a fuckin hand clap i dont give a fuck

I like fish and grits and all that pimp shit

ATLiens.

Not a single mention of "Got Purp" or "Vol. II" thereof?

Damn.

Given the limited choices, I think I have to go with Stankonia, and then Southernplayalisticcadillacfunkymusicforyourtrunk.

i mean, I'll bump Southernplayalistic.. once in a blue moon, but otherwise I really don't ever listen to these dudes. OTOH ATL is a top ten classic for all time.

Got Purp not so much Outkast, really.

id put got purp between atliens & speakerboxxx on my list

btw faggots im not making any big dickmove proclamations about how hip-hop should be because im the only one who knows lol or hwatever your insecure ass thinks when i say im not feeling aquemini or the love below i know a lot of heads who fuck with em & i cant hate its just not my kinda music just like southernplayalistic is not a lot of peoples kinda music

"btw faggots"

classic ethan spleen.

Got Purp not so much Outkast, really.

I would punch you in the throat if you took that tone with me. Put your fucking headphones back on.

Wow, this thread has gotten hysterically hardman.

"How dare you not appreciate the Scooby Doo soundtrack! I'll rape your pets!"

Wow, this thread has gotten hysterically hardman.

No. I simply said IF you were to take that tone with me - that whole up-speaky, contrarian, "actually" tone where you expect that your mere ASSERTION of the counterpoint is enough to have it be regarded as the truth - I would punch you in the throat, either literally or figuratively, or, more likely, both.

"How dare you not appreciate the Scooby Doo soundtrack! I'll rape your pets!"

And you come within 100 yards of my dog, I will shoot you in the nuts.

But you live in Andorra. None of this is bound to ever happen.

Great work. Now do the "Put your fucking headphones back on" line.

now go get your fuckin' shinebox.

http://www.thingsididlastnight.com/

This is much better than Surmounter and me fighting on the Portishead thread.

now go get your fuckin' shinebox.

Exactly. Thank you very much, slockski.

Great work. Now do the "Put your fucking headphones back on" line.

Come on. Lets fucking argue. Don't just go all message board snark on me. Don't let this potentially great topic of argument fade into so many stupid, illiterate posts. So what if Ethan is entirely incapable of punctuation and all of his posts look like ee cummings? This shouldn't keep you from fucking arguing!

I need an argument. http://resim.urlax.net/image.aspx/Monty-Python-Argument-Sketch-resimleri-fotograflari-k3HaRFBSq9k.jpg

Great. What's the topic again?

Do you really see 'Got That Purp' as an Outkast album?

Is the soundtrack to 'Class of 3000' an Outkast album?
also: "cummings"

is Even In Darkness an Outkast album?

See, now we're arguing!

Do you really see 'Got That Purp' as an Outkast album?

At least as much as "Speakerboxx" or "The Love Below", especially given (1) that everyone but Andre is on the album
(2) Anything Big Boi related from Idlewild had its genesis on Vol. II

I can see the flip side, sure - would you call the Wings albums Beatles albums, or Tom Petty albums Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers albums?

But its got that Southernplaylisticcadillacfunkymusicforyourtrunk vibe to it. That's GOT to count for something.

No it doesn't!

No it doesn't!

That's not arguing! That's mere contradiction!

No it isn't!

Saying "everyone but Andre" is on the album is like saying everyone but Garfunkel is on the new Paul Simon disc and trying to convince me that it's a Paul and Simon release.

lol