I just watched _The Third Man_ in full for the first time

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btw is your handle a ref to the dashiell hammett book?
What do you think?

― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Growing up, I used to listen to The Third Man radio show w/ Orson Welles on the now discontinued KNX 1070AM Drama Hour (curse you KNX!). Hearing the zither theme still takes me back to those days.

― kickitcricket (kickitcricket), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Richardson's also rather good (if too plummy) in Long Day's Journey Into Night.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:23 (eighteen years ago) link

bob osborne's coming to town with this soon - STOKED

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link

What? He does personal appearances?

― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Peter Bogdanovich is at his worst in the Criterion release. Yes, yes, we get that you were BFF with Orson, but tell me something interesting, please.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:34 (eighteen years ago) link

What you know about The Third Man is BALLS!

― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah he does a filmfest every spring in athens. usually straight tcm fare though this year it's a bit more 'contemporary'. details here - http://www.grady.uga.edu/osbornefest/default.php - he's usually got some old farts silver screen idols around to chat too.

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, Richardson could steal movies in his hammy mode too -- Things to Come as well as Time Bandits. "I'm the Supreme Being; I'm not completely dim."

The gal who played the tart in Fallen Idol was in MirrorMask last year!

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 19:44 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...

I was a friend of Harry Lime

― Ruud Haarvest (Ken L), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 01:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Alida Valli was great in this, but a little scary in almost everything else, in Dario Argento movies and Bertolucci's Spider's Stratagem. And unconvincing, although Morbius will disagree, The Paradine Case.

― Ruud Haarvest (Ken L), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 01:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Er war gleich toten.

― Ruud Haarvest (Ken L), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 01:36 (seventeen years ago) link

man i could go for seeing this again. it's been a while.

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 01:40 (seventeen years ago) link

i was just thinking about how this one of the movies i could probably watch at any given time.

-- s1ocki (slytus...), February 21st, 2006 12:13 PM. (slutsky)

still think that

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 01:50 (seventeen years ago) link

five months later, even

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 01:50 (seventeen years ago) link

totally obsessed with this in college

― david allen grier (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 01:51 (seventeen years ago) link

i think Odd Man Out is a more moving film, but not necessarily better, than Third Man, if that makes sense. How did Reed end up making crap like Agony& Ecstasy and Oliver?

― timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 01:57 (seventeen years ago) link

i prefer 8 men out

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 01:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Isn't that John Sayles?? never saw it.

― timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 02:01 (seventeen years ago) link

IT'S ABOUT CAPITALISM

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 02:09 (seventeen years ago) link

anyone see the l&o last year i think where mccoy has this monologue comparing the perp to harry lime and scores a conviction off it?

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 02:11 (seventeen years ago) link

It's not about about capitalism, should our viewers get confused.

― Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 02:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, this is my favorite movie. Yes.

― Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 02:16 (seventeen years ago) link

I just decided that, but in a way that I will stick by for a long time.

― Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 02:18 (seventeen years ago) link

8 men out's about capitalism, the third man's about bros before hos.

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 02:21 (seventeen years ago) link

haha. eight men out's better. ;)

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 02:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Kind of, I guess. But not really. The "ho" is this movie is just a physical representation of that which the American attaches way too much sentimental value to. The romantic ideal of the unattaiable woman is the romantic ideal of peace, or harmony, or (especially) simplicity. It's the delusion of a person who is basically stupid.

xpost 8 Men Out is totally inscrutable.

― Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 02:33 (seventeen years ago) link

i was joking. 8 men out is not actually better.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 02:34 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a joke I'm not getting. I'm Tuomas on this thread, aren't I?

― Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 02:37 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, greene be hating his clueless americans for sure

blount's comment about capitalism is probably the unintentional answer to my question about the decline of reed

― timmy tannin (pompous), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 02:37 (seventeen years ago) link

8 men out is ken burns crossed with 'major league'

― gear (gear), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 04:53 (seventeen years ago) link

i.e. it's the greatest movie ever?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 05:12 (seventeen years ago) link

it's the greatest movie ever crossed with ken burns

― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 05:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Laverly. Though the squaddie didn't deserve to get it at the end.

― S- (sgh), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 05:43 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

The closest thing to this movie I ever came across was the Ian McEwan novel The Innocent.

― Ruud Haarvest (Ken L), Friday, 11 August 2006 00:30 (seventeen years ago) link

you should read 'a german reqiuem' by philip kerr. it's this really dark, bleak noir detective novel set in vienna in 1947, it has moments that are homages to the film, and even casually mentions the filming of 'the third man' to add a bit of local color. (you should read the first two in the trilogy beforehand, though: 'march violets' and 'the pale criminal').

― gear (gear), Friday, 11 August 2006 00:39 (seventeen years ago) link

did you redd the child in time, rudd?

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Friday, 11 August 2006 00:41 (seventeen years ago) link

The romantic ideal of the unattaiable woman is the romantic ideal of peace, or harmony, or (especially) simplicity. It's the delusion of a person who is basically stupid.

Yes! One of the film's subtlties is that as an audience we initially identify with Holly because he's curious and vulgar (the Innocent Abroad of Henry James' nightmares, 50 years later); then we retract our empathy slowly as Reed builds suspense to Lime's first appearance, after which it disappears entirely -- Lime is so much more attractive and intelligent than poor compassionate Holly Martens -- until the conclusion. It's the tragedy of a virtuous dull man

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 11 August 2006 00:47 (seventeen years ago) link

No, I didn't read any of that stuff, but I did read Kerr's Philosophical Investigation, which started out really well, but then ran out of gas, so I never bothered with the German trilogy. Maybe I'll give him another try.

― Ruud Haarvest (Ken L), Friday, 11 August 2006 00:56 (seventeen years ago) link

The gal who played the tart in Fallen Idol
So foxy.

(though I didn't find Fallen Idol as interesting as The Third Man. As a thriller, brilliant, as a movie less so.)

― milo z (mlp), Friday, 11 August 2006 00:57 (seventeen years ago) link

gear i've never heard of those books. they look great!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 11 August 2006 01:11 (seventeen years ago) link

best part is when alida valli is credited only as

VALLI

in the opening credits

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 11 August 2006 01:37 (seventeen years ago) link

know her only as "Valli."

― Ruud Haarvest (Ken L), Friday, 11 August 2006 01:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Suddenly I am being subjected to a difficult-to-shake nightmarish vision of Udo Kier rupturing the frame and appearing out of nowhere in The Third Man, maybe popping out of the sewer, maybe in an even more diabolical surprise somewhere else.

― Ruud Haarvest (Ken L), Friday, 11 August 2006 01:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Timely revival, this just showed up via netflix.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 11 August 2006 02:32 (seventeen years ago) link

It's on TCM again next week. Courtesy of the HQ-BMT.

― Ruud Haarvest (Ken L), Friday, 11 August 2006 02:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I have "F for Fake" checked out from the library.

― 100% CHAMPS with a Yes! Attitude. (Austin, Still), Friday, 11 August 2006 02:34 (seventeen years ago) link

gear i've never heard of those books. they look great!!

Let me second that!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 August 2006 02:35 (seventeen years ago) link

RFI: Why Does Ulysses Get All Yessed Out In The Last Chapter?
Bizarro ****SPOILER****
I thought one of the fakes was gonna be that SHE WAS A MAN, BABY!, but it turned out that she was all woman.

― Ruud Haarvest (Ken L), Friday, 11 August 2006 02:36 (seventeen years ago) link

the thing about The Fallen Idol,

is the ridiculously tragic final scene. I can't think of another film with such an emotional denouement.

(I can, actually. Etre Et Avoir, for the final look on the teacher's face.)

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Friday, 11 August 2006 02:40 (seventeen years ago) link

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