William Gibson C/D

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razorgirl molly millions is not the most well-drawn character in the gibson canon, it’s true

chapoquidditch (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 24 January 2020 20:48 (four years ago) link

Agency feels like he was rushing to wrap up the ending, the Clinton stuff is cringeworthy. Worst of the post-Pattern Recognition novels.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 30 January 2020 17:08 (four years ago) link

My copy arrived yesterday, and now slotted in reading pile after a few library borrows. I like the tactile cover's feel!

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 30 January 2020 17:27 (four years ago) link

erm, but you know what they say...?

Ste, Thursday, 30 January 2020 17:56 (four years ago) link

I liked it, but it's definitely a little light. The "present-day" characters are much more interesting than the "alternate-future" characters, something that wasn't true of The Peripheral. And the initial protagonist is a passenger in the plot — like, she literally spends a lot of the book being driven here and there and given things that will be necessary for the plot later. The book is called Agency, but she has very little. (Which may be ironic and deliberate.) I'll re-read it in a few months.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 30 January 2020 18:03 (four years ago) link

re-reading the peripheral ahead of the new one.

he talks about one of the peripherals being a "washing machine", which is an actual thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_6p-1J551Y

also, the wheely boy is also a thing (which i posted at the time). as seen on Community.

http://www.doublerobotics.com/

koogs, Saturday, 8 February 2020 21:56 (four years ago) link

finished the new one. agree with unperson about Verity. not entirely sure a lot of the other characters did much either. ash? wilf? rainey? all pretty much only there because they were in the last book.

still, was a good excuse to reread the peripheral.

koogs, Sunday, 16 February 2020 10:30 (four years ago) link

Should note that I read an interview with Gibson where he said that Verity's lack of agency was deliberate.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 16 February 2020 12:23 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Smiled wryly on page 54, as Rainey and Wilf are discussing Verity's stub (timebranch):

"...Why aren't they happy there?"

"The drivers for the jackpot are still in place, but with less torque at that particular point." He took a seat at the table. "They're still a bit in advance of the pandemics, at least."

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Monday, 16 March 2020 15:46 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

Reading the Fractured Europe quadrilogy instead of re-reading the Blue Ant books. They make for an interesting comparison as a series that could be set in the same universe - more Le Carre, less Japanese denim.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 28 August 2021 06:45 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Reading Burning Chrome, it's funny that his foreword has a bit about the big sci-fi guys of his adolescence (Asimov, Heinlein) reading the future incorrectly... then it's just "wot if Japan took over the world" in every other story.

The story about the guy dropping into visions of the perfect art deco sci-fi version of the '80s was great.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 01:04 (two years ago) link

Was Neuromancer the last time anyone in a Gibson book had sex?

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 01:52 (two years ago) link

been working through the sprawl trilogy myself

Count Zero has a merc in rehab having sex in the first act. Gibson definitely shied away from writing sex for the most part as time’s gone on

mh, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 02:03 (two years ago) link

Who needs sex when you can have selvage denim devoid of branding or decoration?

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 02:17 (two years ago) link

Gibson pioneered consumer affect pornography, the scene mh mentioned is in the fact the only thing he's written post-Neuromancer that ISN'T a sex scene

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 03:32 (two years ago) link

I kinda remember the security contractor/private eye guy from Knoxville in Virtual Light getting it on, but maybe that is just what you think Private dicks do in books.

earlnash, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 08:47 (two years ago) link

(virtual light ebook is 99p on amazon.co.uk (and kobo.com) at the moment btw. last month it was idoru. i am waiting for ATP.)

koogs, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 12:15 (two years ago) link

I ordered the UK Penguin paperbacks of the Bridge trilogy from Blackstones last night. I like the matching covers and haven't read the books since they were new, so birthday present to myself (I turn 50 next month).

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 16 November 2021 13:05 (two years ago) link

yeah, i re-bought the original trilogy (and the matching Burning Chrome) after i lost the first set to a flood.

virtual light was the first i bought, remaindered in a bookshop in leicester. everything since has been the hardback. and ATP is signed "merry xmas '99" (was a present, i didn't get to meet him).

koogs, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 13:12 (two years ago) link

There’s probably something Gibsonian to the fact that I own paperbacks of the sprawl trilogy but the idea of digging out a yellowed, dusty copy that’d make me sneeze and turn my reading light up made me just procure the ebook

mh, Tuesday, 16 November 2021 14:30 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

The footage forum stuff in Pattern Recognition reads like early ILX. You lurk in’, William?

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 8 December 2021 00:07 (two years ago) link

reminded me of newsgroup conspiracy theories tbh

mh, Wednesday, 8 December 2021 00:26 (two years ago) link

Gibson's best joke is reducing all of Pattern Recognition to creating "Trope Slope, for instance, our viral pitchman platform" in Spook Country

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 17 December 2021 06:21 (two years ago) link

eight months pass...

First teaser trailer for The Peripheral tv series is out...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSaWHbCSmRI

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 8 September 2022 23:17 (one year ago) link

I did not imagine the pre-Jackpot humans with Appalachian accents

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 9 September 2022 04:34 (one year ago) link

that trailer is actively making me not want to see it

Tracer Hand, Friday, 9 September 2022 06:51 (one year ago) link

production design-wise it looks not too far off what i had in my head when i read it but that's not MY flynne and burton ffs, casting seems way off

this reminds me i need to get back to slogging through the last quarter of AGENCY, which i am not enjoying at all

manic pixie dream shatner (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 September 2022 09:14 (one year ago) link

Revive made me think he'd Prokofieved it

Led By Honkies (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 9 September 2022 09:44 (one year ago) link

I did not imagine the pre-Jackpot humans with Appalachian accents

Yeah, that's where the book takes place, out in the sticks.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 9 September 2022 12:19 (one year ago) link

It's pretty explicitly mentioned in the book!

mh, Friday, 9 September 2022 14:26 (one year ago) link

I think this looks really good myself and very closely matches up with both how I envisioned the setting and the characters, so I'm excited for it.

this reminds me i need to get back to slogging through the last quarter of AGENCY, which i am not enjoying at all

I had the same experience. The first half was good and felt like it was building toward something; the end of the book is seriously underwhelming.

akm, Friday, 9 September 2022 14:40 (one year ago) link

I don't have a lot of confidence that they'll pull off anything great, but I usually enjoy Chloë Grace Moretz's acting and Nolan/Joy have pulled off some decent television on occasion, so..

mh, Friday, 9 September 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link

Agency was very whatever, but (I’m hoping) planted seeds that will sprout in the next book.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 9 September 2022 15:09 (one year ago) link

I watched the trailer. Dunno how I feel about it. Not gonna spring for Amazon Prime to watch it, but if DVD sets are available for rent at some point, might check it out.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 9 September 2022 15:10 (one year ago) link

Out in the sticks does not mean "up in the holler" - the contemporary setting seemed more decaying rust belt Ohio or Pennsylvania, empty Kansas town maybe, rather than east Kentucky. It doesn't matter but it just didn't sound right for the characters to me.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 9 September 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link

Looks pretty cool. I don't mind if they take some liberties with this book/series, because the source material isn't perfect.

beard papa, Friday, 9 September 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

A Blue Ant trilogy series by the guy who did Mr. Robot could be good - in terms of visual style at least.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 9 September 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

i really should read those (I did Pattern Recognition which I loved but never got to the follow ups)

akm, Friday, 9 September 2022 20:59 (one year ago) link

Spook Country is really good. Zero History is pretty good until it sinks in that the whole thing is just a love letter to Gibson's obsession with selvedge denim jeans.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 9 September 2022 21:07 (one year ago) link

haha I love the fabric history detours!

sleeve, Friday, 9 September 2022 22:51 (one year ago) link

I like selvedge denim jeans so I'll probably enjoy it

akm, Saturday, 10 September 2022 14:40 (one year ago) link

I mean, it's a good book, I've read it a few times, but I distinctly remember on my first read thinking, "Wait...is this whole book...about pants?"

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 10 September 2022 15:06 (one year ago) link

Unperson, did you read that long New Yorker profile about Gibson a couple years back?

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 10 September 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link

Gibson got a couple of clothing collabs off of Pattern Recognition, that plotline in the third book was VMIC.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 10 September 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

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Only $990

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 10 September 2022 17:50 (one year ago) link


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