Ted Rall Makes More Enemies

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About Ted Rall
Ted Rall writes for a generation unjustly maligned as a pack of lazy slackers. He voices Generation X's frustration and resentment at the excesses of the baby boomers who've left a spent America in their mammoth wake. Ted's irreverent attitude and deft use of satire combine to make his work as fun to read as it is thought-provoking. And Ted's ability to connect with current culture gives his writing an of-the-moment perspective that is edgy and sharp.

haha, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 14:58 (twenty years ago) link

Edgy like my Grandma -- and he sure as hell doesn't speak for my generation -- then again, looking around, maybe he does -- but's that's too sad to contemplate.

jack cole (jackcole), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:04 (twenty years ago) link

Jack Higgins somehow managed to outshit Rall (via atrios):
http://images.suntimes.com/images3/higgins/higgins35006.gif

C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:54 (twenty years ago) link

that is awesome.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:57 (twenty years ago) link

I love people like this because they strain for profundity the same way most strain for bowel movements.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 22:58 (twenty years ago) link

that is sooooooooooo bad.

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:05 (nineteen years ago) link

That cartoon sums up my entire argument from ground zero like nothing else.

Not that I'm going to vote for dubya.

TOMBOT, Friday, 7 May 2004 03:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I completely agree that "hero" is a woefully overused term, but Rall goes out of his way sometimes to be a dick. T

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:17 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't quite get your argument, tom

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:18 (nineteen years ago) link

it's not really an argument or a point of contention really that getting killed is worse than getting tortured.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:19 (nineteen years ago) link

and...?

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:20 (nineteen years ago) link

exactly. kind of a pointless cartoon.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:21 (nineteen years ago) link

It's just Rall pushing a button he knows will generate outrage. It has less to do with any valid points and more to do with simply wanting to upset people è

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not talking about the Rall cartoon.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:23 (nineteen years ago) link

well, I was 

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:24 (nineteen years ago) link

you're a couple days late.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I agree with Stence re: the Higgins cartoon. Completely pointless. What's the message? Better them than us?Pe

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:25 (nineteen years ago) link

"as long as america is under attack, we should be sexually humiliating people"

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:26 (nineteen years ago) link

And we wonder why our relationships are all fucked up.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:27 (nineteen years ago) link

"with cigarette smoking butchy women"

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:27 (nineteen years ago) link

The identity of that G.I ("cigarette smoking butchy woman") has been revealed. She's from West Virginia. Look for her on the tabs tomorrow. Gotta feel bad for her family

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I agree with Stence re: the Higgins cartoon. Completely pointless. What's the message? Better them than us?

no, it's a much more evil message than that. it's a complete lie. the message is clearly meant to be read as, "THEY deserve it because THEY flew those planes into our buildings." which of course they didn't actually do. that higgins cartoon is pretty much the entire lie of the iraq war laid bare.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Cuz OTM!

I'm also bothered by the image of the kids in the Higgins cartoon. It's attempts to assert poignance and innocence, but stop me if I'm wrong -- don't Iraqis have children too?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 7 May 2004 03:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Isn't that a Sting song?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 7 May 2004 04:00 (nineteen years ago) link

PLEASE don't give sting any more ideas.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 7 May 2004 04:04 (nineteen years ago) link

once again, les extrèmes se touchent. kill the wingnuts AND the che t-shirt brigade, and let the adults run things again.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 7 May 2004 04:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Believe me Sting all ready though of it. He has eight hours while waiting to orgasm to come up with these kind of song ideas.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 7 May 2004 04:06 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

I never heard of Rall before today. Reading this thread it seems he doesn't come across too well. I was searching to see if anyone had read this book

http://www.amazon.com/Silk-Road-Ruin-Central-Middle/dp/1561634549

laxalt, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 14:33 (sixteen years ago) link

maybe he's a better writer than cartoonist?

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 14:54 (sixteen years ago) link

http://picayune.uclick.com/comics/trall/2007/trall071022.gif
....

and what, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

chortle

The Real Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 17:07 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

And now he might as well be Kelly at the Onion:

http://opinion.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c7de353ef0147e26e56ae970b-500wi

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 20:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow the one posted above that is disgusting. I've got friends in Iraq who are most definitely not stupid. Of course he gives the idiot at the end an "I heart sports" shirt, as though sports fans are dumb lol. Is there a level of satire that I'm not picking up here or is he really this terrible?

frogbs, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link

He is really this terrible.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 20:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, I just read the whole thread. He writes (and draws) like a 13 year old with big "problems with the world" (aka things that Ted Rall dislikes). I know because this is EXACTLY the sort of thing I would have done as a 13-year old cartoonist when I drew comics for my middle school; just like, "here's my viewpoint and I don't care if it is correct"

I think I was 16 or 17 when I kind of had an epiphany, that a cartoonist's job is always to make the material FUNNY first and make your point second, because it's hard to really tie the things together sometimes and everyone's just going to disagree with you anyway. That's where I had heard of Ted Rall; he sued some cartoonist who pulled a prank on him for $1.5 million and the guy ended up really suffering, which seemed just like a shit thing to do to someone in the same line of work as you. I made a comic about Rall comparing him to Jim Davis, basically saying that Garfield is written by making jokes about pretty broad personality traits (Garfield is fat, lazy, always hungry, cruel, etc., Jon is a loser, etc. etc.), and that in the end Davis could do a political comic strip as well as Rall could do one, or that Rall was barely qualified to write Garfield, I really can't remember...have to dig that one up.

There was some mention of Tom Tomorrow...I was a big fan of his in the pre-Bush era. Since then he's gotten a lot angrier and progressively less funny; satire turned into ranting. I wonder what he's up to these days. Maybe (as suggested) the Bush era just kind of took all the urge to just be funny and start getting angry, which is death for a political cartoonist.

frogbs, Wednesday, 9 February 2011 21:03 (thirteen years ago) link

four years pass...

Will THIS finally put paid to the guy. (It's the preceding editors' note that needs the focus here.)

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-rall-lapd-crosswalk-tickets-20150511-story.html

Ned Raggett, Friday, 31 July 2015 16:33 (eight years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Checking in:

http://rall.com/comic/bernie-sanders-endorsed-hillary-clinton

http://22i18l42a516x0glw28vyk8x4k.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/7-15-16-768x580.jpg

After a hard-fought primary campaign, Bernie Sanders capitulated and endorsed his rival Hillary Clinton for the presidency. In the final analysis, Clinton gave up little more than lip service to Bernie’s agenda of a $15 minimum wage, free college tuition at public universities, and universal healthcare. To the contrary, Clinton is now moving to the right, considering a general as vice president and asking the platform committee not to oppose the TPP free trade agreement.

Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Thursday, 28 July 2016 21:34 (seven years ago) link

http://rall.com/comic/pokemon-go-hillary-trump

http://22i18l42a516x0glw28vyk8x4k.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/7-19-16.jpg

The video game sensation “Pokemon Go” has led players to weird places like the National Holocaust Museum, Rikers Island prison in New York, and even drug sales locations. Hey, maybe this app can be used to do good!

http://22i18l42a516x0glw28vyk8x4k.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/7-25-16.jpg

http://rall.com/comic/hillary-clinton-a-disaster-for-democrats

The party candidate isn’t true to its basic principles, lies, is ruthless, breaks the law and has record-high disapproval ratings in the polls. How the hell did America’s oldest political party wind up with such a terrible candidate? Easy: they plotted and schemed.

http://rall.com/comic/hillary-clinton-lesser-evilism

http://22i18l42a516x0glw28vyk8x4k.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/7-27-16.jpg

The 2016 Democratic national convention is being highlighted by the discussion over whether or not to vote for Hillary Clinton as a so-called lesser evil.” Even if you don’t like her or her policies, mainstream Democrats say, it’s important to vote for her because otherwise, Donald Trump will be elected and he will be worse. But what happens if, in the next election, Donald Trump runs against someone worse than Donald Trump? Would Donald Trump be the best choice then? If so, why would be unjustified to vote for him now?

Sentient animated cat gif (kingfish), Thursday, 28 July 2016 21:40 (seven years ago) link

i don't think the moral of that is the one he intends.

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 28 July 2016 21:45 (seven years ago) link

this guy is prob my least favorite cartoonist in the world, comparing him to jim davis is an insult to davis

like even apart from his obnoxious views and weirdly high opinion of himself his style is just ugly and unappealing and incompetent

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 28 July 2016 22:45 (seven years ago) link

that's true of 99% of contemporary political cartoonists

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 29 July 2016 02:44 (seven years ago) link

it's really not. it's almost like he takes special care to not give a shit about his backgrounds and layout.

El Tomboto, Saturday, 30 July 2016 06:22 (seven years ago) link


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