Coping with solitude

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I have a boring personality, and no looks.

I don't know you well enough to say if the former is true, but the latter certainly isn't, if the one photo you've posted on the WDYLL thread is any indication. You're cute.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I completely agree with Ronan's comments. Such wise words from one so handsome.

Lara (Lara), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Alisa (in fact anyone I guess), sometimes I find myself feeling that I need to brighten up my outlook—I can be a bit gloomy sometimes, and end up hating myself for it, always too late, ergo downward spiral of, "I'm a horrible person"... but it never occurred to me that I could go to the doctors and pick up some pills just to make myself a bit easier to be around. How did you approach this with the doctor?

See, there's a bit more to it than that. I was spiralling into a pit of depression, and it was the realisation that I was projecting it onto other people in a pathetic desire for validation (and they made me realise that I was becoming unbearable to be around as a result) that made me realise I need to do something - if I could be a better person to be around, I would have people around who *liked* me, not people who didn't want to dislike me (which is SO different). So I went to the doctor, I said "help, I am unhappy, my life is wrong, I can't cope with stuff" {slight paraphrase} and she gave me anti-depressants and recommended counselling and things and, you know, it got better eventually. I felt better, I didn't feel that all I had to give to people was "please be my friend because I need you to be my friend" - I pulled myself around and became someone in my own right, a person with something to contribute other than misery and guilt. I didn't say "make me a better person" but I knew that I had to become one, and beating the thing that made me unbearable was the way to go.

I guess I sounded glib. I didn't mean to.

In other news, I'm going to just get a t-shirt with "Onimo OTM" on it, so that everyone knows my position on stuff.

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 00:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, I misread what you were asking, tissp, sorry, I was a teensy bit drunk - I didn't get the bit about anti-depressants being for big bad proper suicidal depression rather than, you know, depression (i.e. depression is depression, whatever way it manifests itself). However, I'm not a doctor, so if you aren't sure if you are actually depressed or whether you just have a bout of the blues that you can't quite shake off yourself, that there is no harm in asking for help.

Also have you tried herbal remedies (there's a thread about St Johns Wort somewhere, and probably other threads too).

ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 16 February 2006 22:36 (eighteen years ago) link

I've been alone most of my life. I think it was learned behavior from when I was a kid and had to move every few years because of my dad's job. I spent a lot of time in my room drawing pictures and trying to make music. I was pretty okay with that until, for some reason, when I hit my late 20s I started feeling really lonely. I felt like life was a waste of time, and that I was an invisible nobody. Suicidal thoughts were plentiful. In a way I compare my situation to people who get married when they are 18, divorced after 10 years, and then realize they are single with absolutely no game whatsoever. So after a ton of self-analysis and years of trying and failing, I recently hooked up with a girl, and after six months have fantasies about being by myself again.

eeyore's ass (stfu kthx), Thursday, 16 February 2006 23:52 (eighteen years ago) link

actually i'm kidding. it's a good relationship. sometimes i struggle with sharing my time with another person, which is probably a pretty natural reaction considering what a hermit i've been most of my life.

eeyore's ass (stfu kthx), Thursday, 16 February 2006 23:57 (eighteen years ago) link

what age are you now eeyore?

Bob Six (bobbysix), Friday, 17 February 2006 00:01 (eighteen years ago) link

early 30s, though you wouldn't know it by the nickname i guess.

eeyore's ass (stfu kthx), Friday, 17 February 2006 00:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Spooky. Eeyore, I think you're my twin -- just substitute writing for "drawing pictures and trying to make music"..

Surfer_Stone_Rosalita (Surfer_Stone_Rosalita), Friday, 17 February 2006 00:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Solitude is good for art. Creativity is a good way to cope with loneliness. I feel fortunate that I've learned how to enjoy life on my own, but lately it feels like it might also be kind of a curse. I've gotten so used to being alone that I am finding it somewhat difficult to let someone in (and I don't mean in a physical sense).

eeyore's ass (stfu kthx), Friday, 17 February 2006 01:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I feel the same way - just substitute getting stoned and listening to music for 'creativity'.

In fact, after my last relationship - where I felt really deprived of time on my own - I took a sabbatical from relationships which I'm still continuing.

The ideal relationship for me would probably be living in separate properties - which some people think is a bit extreme.

Bob Six (bobbysix), Friday, 17 February 2006 08:21 (eighteen years ago) link

eight years pass...

I sought out solitude and serenity the last few months and it has been wonderful, but the detritus and nonsense doesnt fades slowly, I still hear the voices of others, the opinions of others, ex-colleagues, people whos houses i stayed at briefly, so many sounds, so many opinions - I am not yet free of them, but these days of not having to interact, not having to engage, ever so gradually I can feel my blood pressure dropping as the voices gradually soften. If i could go 6 months without conversation it would be a dream

anvil, Saturday, 20 December 2014 19:32 (nine years ago) link

I think i chose the wrong thread, but I'm not sure there is a solitude-positive thread

anvil, Saturday, 20 December 2014 19:33 (nine years ago) link

i agree.

solitude can be a necessity in this socially saturated world.

my friends get concerned if i turn down an invite for a social gathering eg. tonight.

but the fact is, there are times i kind of enjoy not having to interact with others.

not sure i could cope with 6 months though.

mark e, Saturday, 20 December 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link

i am with you. i love people, and too much time along would probably kill me, but i also need several hours per day of solitude. it's a balance.

the OP makes me very sad. i've been single for like, a year and a half and in that time was hoping -- often desperately -- to find someone new. but now i've sort of calmed down and realized that being alone is great. i deleted my dating apps, and now i hope to remain single forever (or at least for another year or so).

Treeship, Saturday, 20 December 2014 19:48 (nine years ago) link

just read the OP.

fuck.

mark e, Saturday, 20 December 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link

yes, i hope ForestPines is OK.

re dating, i think i am against it. like, actively searching -- out of the hundreds of millions of people -- for someone to become this central person in your life seems deranged and quixotic. people pair up successfully because they force things, often, but then the people left behind often feel like they've failed at some central human task, when all they've really done is failed at the impossible. this is what leads to posts like ForestPlains'.

Treeship, Saturday, 20 December 2014 20:03 (nine years ago) link

FP was still posting when I joined and that was like at least half a year later, also iirc had a thing going with 'the office goth' then, point stands though, poor soul

imago, Saturday, 20 December 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link

FP is still out there*

*footnoting in case you were wondering

Twist of Caliphate (Bob Six), Sunday, 21 December 2014 13:23 (nine years ago) link

Posts under the ForestPines user name stopped in 2007, so FP's ilx participation must be under a new name. good luck to FP, in any event

oh no! must be the season of the rich (Aimless), Sunday, 21 December 2014 20:07 (nine years ago) link


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