― mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― strng hlkngtn, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Yakuza Ghost Six (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link
but seriously ...
ricardo's percussive talent is undisputed: the sophisticatedly elastic rhythm meanders of Latin American/Caribbean origin sound ... the tracks appear surprisingly volatile, despite the considerable playing times of several titles which are absolutely required for exhausting the free, rhythmic modulatons
he should form a group with pharoah sanders and osunlade!
― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Yakuza Ghost Six (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 19:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Yakuza Ghost Six (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 19:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 19:27 (eighteen years ago) link
it's even more than what i always wanted from dj pica pica pica and nobukazu takemura - sounds like gamelan tapes played backwards at high speed, with the dj leaning on the mixing board with his elbows on the buttons marked "delay" and "pixilate".
has there really been anything like "taka taka" since? "button down mind" pt 2? i fear that falls into the same traps akufen fell into with his fabric mix, too many cartoon animal honking and farting, not enough of ricardo's sunbaked grace.
― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Yakuza Ghost Six (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 21:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Yakuza Ghost Six (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 21:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link
download one luciano set
― fe zaffe (fezaffe), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 22:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― strng hlkngtn, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 22:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 9 June 2005 15:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 9 June 2005 22:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― I'm bad and dirty and going to hell (nordicskilla), Monday, 27 June 2005 21:12 (eighteen years ago) link
i. I have the vinyl the alcahofa and have only listened to 'dexter' and 'easy lee'ii. I have the vinyl of vocalcity and have only listened to 'tessio'
: /
― c/n (Cozen), Monday, 27 June 2005 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― I'm bad and dirty and going to hell (nordicskilla), Monday, 27 June 2005 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link
(Cozen, do you "do" mp3 cds?)
I also "send" them.
I would sell you it but I'm about to buy a new turntable (uh after my new imac &c.)
― c/n (Cozen), Monday, 27 June 2005 21:31 (eighteen years ago) link
I don't even have SPEAKERS in my house.
ILM can flog me now!
― I'm bad and dirty and going to hell (nordicskilla), Monday, 27 June 2005 21:32 (eighteen years ago) link
: )
― c/n (Cozen), Monday, 27 June 2005 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― I'm bad and dirty and going to hell (nordicskilla), Monday, 27 June 2005 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― I'm bad and dirty and going to hell (nordicskilla), Monday, 27 June 2005 21:36 (eighteen years ago) link
Do any of you have the vinyl version of Alcachofa? Is it just me or is it intentional for the 4 sides to switch rpm when you flip sides? It's very annoying.
― Moka, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 06:45 (nine years ago) link
It's also disorienting I swear dexter and easy lee sound slower than my mp3 versions but it might just be my ears.
Side A and C are definitely 33rpm and side B and D 45rpm but it doesn't have any info on why would they do this.
― Moka, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 06:49 (nine years ago) link
Yeah it is (annoying and intentional). The sides w one track're 45, those w two 33. Took me a few weeks to notice/look into this myself
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 06:50 (nine years ago) link
Ok I've had it for a few years now and noticed immediatly but assumed it was intentional. No idea why. I guess he just thought it would be fun for trolling vinyl djs or something like that.
― Moka, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 06:54 (nine years ago) link
It's cos it means he gets 45 quality sound where he can, I guess
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 06:55 (nine years ago) link
Oh yeah it's 3 vinyls. Didn't realize that the speed changed depending on the number of tracks per side... That's interesting. It might help me next time I play it but it is still annoying.
― Moka, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 06:56 (nine years ago) link
Frm memory that rule applies to everything of his, I got p anal abt checking all my Villalobos LPs/12s out after that (also once had sex to the incorrectly slow Easy Lee, which ws kinda creepy)
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 06:58 (nine years ago) link
He also tends to have different tracks between cd and vinyl and it's somewhere between cool and annoying. In this particular album it annoys me because he left out YGH out of the vinyl version and it's nowhere else to be found in vinyl format. Also some of my favorite tracks were only released on the cd version (waiworinao, fools garden and what you say) and the exclusive tracks on vinyl aren't as good as those.
― Moka, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 07:08 (nine years ago) link
I would have loved to have waiworinao or what you say instead of "i try to live" which is the only track in the album which I don't care for at all.
Specially mad about the exclusion of waiworinao as it's one of the highlights in here besides dexter and easy lee.
― Moka, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 07:15 (nine years ago) link
Not to be a dick, but:
http://www.discogs.com/Villalobos-Alcachofa-Tools/release/194548
http://www.discogs.com/Villalobos-Halma/master/124107
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 07:23 (nine years ago) link
Oh wait that's not what you meant, sorry. No sign of YGH as you obv know
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Wednesday, 30 July 2014 07:26 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I know they are in there I would just prefer to have the same album and the extra tracks on an ep.
YGH is not in there btw!
― Moka, Wednesday, 30 July 2014 07:28 (nine years ago) link
in my world of young dance music vinyl, having one side 45 with one track and one side 33 with two tracks is a pretty standard move and hardly some unique trolling exercise by mr villalobos
― Tim F, Thursday, 31 July 2014 00:13 (nine years ago) link
it's certainly not unusual and as mentioned upthread is to do with maximising volume on each side depending on the length. unless you have an incredibly high end turntable, it's not really that much hassle to change the speed as you change sides, is it?
― stirmonster, Thursday, 31 July 2014 01:11 (nine years ago) link
Are the 45 sides the ones more likely to be played out? That'd also make sense.
― mh, Thursday, 31 July 2014 01:58 (nine years ago) link
My turntable cost about £150 15 years ago - ie it's entry-level - and to change speed you have to take the platter off and manually adjust the belt drive. So that is a hell of hassle for flipping speeds as you change sides, actually.
But I own Alcachofa on CD, so...
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 31 July 2014 09:43 (nine years ago) link
All mine it's only ever taken flicking a switch, only trolly move is never mentioning it on the sleeves bt he prob likes the idea of ppl listening to it at the "wrong" speed anyway
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Thursday, 31 July 2014 09:50 (nine years ago) link
i have a lot of admiration for this record and villalobos overall, but i find it hard to love. sometimes i feel like he is the autechre of dance music
― marcos, Thursday, 31 July 2014 13:31 (nine years ago) link
A+ zing
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Thursday, 31 July 2014 13:37 (nine years ago) link