Taking Dark Sides: Peter Murphy Vs. Daniel Ash

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i'll take No New Tale To Tell over pretty much any bauhaus song

http://www.knifton.com/images/yoda/yoda.h1.jpg
"That is why you fail!"

Yoda in Dagobah (vassifer), Thursday, 3 November 2005 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Ash could have been replaced to little fanfare

Funnily enough, this very statement came up when I did a Google search with the following words: "stack", "crap", "stack of crap".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 4 November 2005 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

"Uh, you mean David J and his work with the Jazz Butcher, yes?"

AFAIK all of Love And Rockets backed Mr Fish up on numerous tracks.

sleeve (sleeve), Friday, 4 November 2005 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Hm. Now that I look at the records I only see Haskins on one track, and a "Mr. Jones" also credited with David J on most of 'em.

Still, Ash wins.

sleeve (sleeve), Friday, 4 November 2005 00:08 (eighteen years ago) link

"So Alive" >>>> "Go" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Cuts You Up"

-- The Good Dr. Bill (fadeout9...), November 3rd, 2005 11:41 AM. (The Good Dr. Bill)

Dr. Bill how do you survive in a world so completely opposite from reality?

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 4 November 2005 00:16 (eighteen years ago) link

daniel ash EASILY, a girl i knew in iceland had that one ash solo album with 'day tripper' on it ('coming down' i think??) - great stuff

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 4 November 2005 00:20 (eighteen years ago) link

FAIK all of Love And Rockets backed Mr Fish up on numerous tracks.

L&R are even namechecked (and sing!) on "The Devil Is My Friend"

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Friday, 4 November 2005 00:32 (eighteen years ago) link

"Bauhaus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely anything that any of it's individual members have ever been involved with either individually, with other people, or in any combination other than Bauhaus, ever."

Stewart has spoken the truth. As far as frontmen go though, I'd chose Peter.

LeRooLeRoo (Seb), Friday, 4 November 2005 00:36 (eighteen years ago) link

girl i knew in iceland had that one ash solo album with 'day tripper' on it ('coming down' i think??) - great stuff

Yeah, I love that first solo album -- really fantastic and just as trippily crazed as the fourth Love and Rockets album, all over the place and better for it.

L&R are even namechecked (and sing!) on "The Devil Is My Friend"

Ah, now this is very true. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 November 2005 00:49 (eighteen years ago) link

The first version of "Coming Down" is a really great grind. I also remember a cover of "Day Tripper" that emphasized the bass over the melody; it was almost shoegaze. (Ned will correct me if I'm wrong.) Either way, nice stuff.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 4 November 2005 00:56 (eighteen years ago) link

i really need the bubblemen record.

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 4 November 2005 02:03 (eighteen years ago) link

(Ned will correct me if I'm wrong.)

You are correct, sir. Great album cover too:

http://www2.ocn.ne.jp/~real/image32.jpg

Me on the album.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 November 2005 02:12 (eighteen years ago) link

The long version of "Walk This Way" that came out on that Beggar's Banquet is, as the hip kids say, TEH SHIT!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 4 November 2005 02:18 (eighteen years ago) link

That Beggar's Banquet COMPILATION, I should have said.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 4 November 2005 02:18 (eighteen years ago) link

...called Money Is Not the Answer

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 4 November 2005 02:21 (eighteen years ago) link

According to jazzbutcher.com, which is pretty reliably complete, David & Kevin were conspirators, but not Kevin.
http://jazzbutcher.com/htdb/people

Anyway, Ash - no doubt. Pete is a clown.

when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Friday, 4 November 2005 02:21 (eighteen years ago) link

THE BUBBLEMEN PWN ALL!!!!

On planet girl, we go for a whirl... etc. oh yeah, best spin off ever.

Daniel was never involved in the Jazz Butcher. David played on a couple of albums and tours, I think Kevin did one session at least. But usually drums were played by Owen P. Jones (Apparently they woke up one day and found him living in their house "ask him if he plays drums!" said Pat "But he's got a beard!" protested Max. "Well, tell him to shave it off, and he's in," replied Pat - goes the story) and guitar was played the stupendously fantastic Max Eider.

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 08:52 (eighteen years ago) link

(Why do I *know* these things? OK, sayeth the girl who once wrote an illustrated novel called "301 Reasons Why I Like David J")

Streatham's Paisley Princess (kate), Friday, 4 November 2005 08:53 (eighteen years ago) link

More talk about the stupendously fantastic Max Eider, who shits all over everyone mentioned so far.

when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I wouldn't go THAT far.

However, Max Eider does rule, and "Drink" is the best song ever about the joys of sweet alcohol.

"Falling apart in bars
I like to suffer for my art
Just one more before we part..."

(For the uninitiated, imagine this being delivered and sung in the kind of light-hearted, breezy 30s jazz that Eric Idle specializes in for his Monty Python songs.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 November 2005 12:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Soul Happy Hour is the best song ever about drink.

when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Friday, 4 November 2005 13:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Clearly the only way to settle this is to have a FAP where we play nothing but drinking songs and then proceed to get drunk.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 November 2005 13:04 (eighteen years ago) link

As long as it isn't at your house in Boston! (see ILX dreams)

when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Friday, 4 November 2005 13:05 (eighteen years ago) link

four years pass...

Any deeper thoughts on the Daniel Ash solo discography? I mean, Coming Down sounds alright enough (if not a patch on anything Love and Rockets released before their last couple), but I can't find much use for Ash's next two solo albums. And it's not for lack of trying, either -- I'm a pretty big fan of Bauhaus (obv.), L&R, Tones on Tail, Dali's Car, Peter solo... just can't get into the Ash solo stuff very much.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

peter solo = give me Love Hysteria and Deep and that's all I'll ever really need

Tones on Tail > Bauhaus and I think I appreciate daniel ash's role in bauhaus more than peter murphy's so I have to go with daniel ash here.

MY RUSTIC CHURCHWARDEN PIPE TOBACCOS; WITH RED T-SHIRT OF SURF (Curt1s Stephens), Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

i kinda couldn't take any of ash's solo stuff. so much of it was sooooo lazy in that bad later L&R way. lazy rhymes, lazy guitar playing. nothing songs.

i never posted on this thread? then ASH for me! cuz he was in three bands that i love and murphy only in one.

scott seward, Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

plus, he's one of my fave guitarists. and i dig him as a vocalist way more than murphy too.

scott seward, Thursday, 25 February 2010 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

I got my public radio member card the other day and the name of the enrollment management guy in charge of writing thank you letters was named Daniel Ash. I thought of this DA and loled to myself thinking of him having a day job like that.

"We really appreciate everything you do for public radio!"
http://chicagoist.com/attachments/chicagoist_tankboy/2007_09_daniel_ash.gif

ergonomically chromium plated fish slice (La Lechera), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 15:53 (thirteen years ago) link

My favorite Ash moment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jP5S4l1zEc

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:11 (thirteen years ago) link

At least Daniel Ash was not in a Twilight movie.

not the sort of person who would wind up in a landfill (Nicole), Tuesday, 4 January 2011 16:26 (thirteen years ago) link

like he'd say no

da croupier, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 03:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Depends on whether or not they'd let him wear leather onscreen.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 03:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Depends on whether he proves a nefarious sartorial influence on young Pattinson.

Gus Van Sotosyn (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 03:59 (thirteen years ago) link

Imagining him with Ash's pineapple hair and seizing up.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 January 2011 04:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Dust and Hot Trip to Heaven are both completely underrated.

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Wednesday, 5 January 2011 04:06 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Daniel is 55 today.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 14:16 (eleven years ago) link

That...is strange to hear.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 31 July 2012 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

Tones on Tail FTW.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 1 August 2012 02:49 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scUbXATC70w

it is very good advice to believe only what an artist does

mississippi joan hart (crüt), Wednesday, 1 August 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link

three years pass...

lol https://soundcloud.com/daniel-ash-383422151

bern b bag (crüt), Wednesday, 3 February 2016 13:02 (eight years ago) link


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