Jonathan Meades c/d?

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That's not a warning that's a recommendation

où sont les threads d'antan? (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 12 April 2020 08:58 (four years ago) link

Quite so. But mostly I was trying to get your attention NV. The Hull episode's pretty good also.

Tim, Sunday, 12 April 2020 09:17 (four years ago) link

three quick observations:

a) shame on you for making me want to go down to the pier when i can't
b) i think he's very knowingly riffing on Meades especially
c) these look brilliant!

où sont les threads d'antan? (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 12 April 2020 09:27 (four years ago) link

pub montage at the end of the Hull ep is particularly cruel

good shout Tim, never seen a Youtube address so many of my interests in one go :D

où sont les threads d'antan? (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 12 April 2020 09:47 (four years ago) link

Sorry. Agree (to what extent he’s knowingly Nairning it up also, I couldn’t say, could be both, couldn’t be Nairn only I think). Glad you’re enjoying them.

Tim, Sunday, 12 April 2020 09:53 (four years ago) link

he obv doesn't like Wessies or at least he seems to have a preference for the more picturesque parts of Yorkshire. Mind you I think Nairn was driven to despair in Hudds and probably had an extra ten pints at dinnertime to fortify himself against the ugliness of such a heathen shithole, until Halifax cheered him up!

calzino, Sunday, 12 April 2020 10:03 (four years ago) link

i am going on such a crawl if there's anywhere left after lockdown ends

no apologies necessary, these lads are a real find

où sont les threads d'antan? (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 12 April 2020 10:06 (four years ago) link

ten months pass...

The new Jonathan Meades book is out today from @unbounders. An incredible 900+ pages of his collected essays. I haven't even got past the dedication and I'm already laughing. #pedroandrickycomesagain #jonathanmeades pic.twitter.com/SH7uSD2FG1

— Alex Boyd (@AlexBoyd) March 8, 2021

calzino, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 12:59 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Nice interview of a book I'd like to get hold of.

https://thequietus.com/articles/29856-jonathan-meades-pedro-and-ricky-come-again-owen-hatherley-interview

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 10:09 (three years ago) link

Meades v much the right-winger it's ok to like amongst leftist types, eh?

Pretty funny to see Unbound retweet enthusiastic reviews of this book that are all "this man warned us about the woke!"

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 14:56 (three years ago) link

How are you defining right-wing here? There are a lot of edgelordy comments in this, true.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 15:12 (three years ago) link

Actually he comes across as leftier in this interview than I'd previously known him to be - there's a strong love of individualism in his thinking on architecture, thus the love of Belgium, and the complete contempt for any urban planners who thought people's needs and preferences should be taken into account.

Biggest challop in this interview so far is that France takes anti-semitism more seriously than the UK, a totally baffling statement to me both from my experience with the UK and with France.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 15:17 (three years ago) link

He's great tho don't get me wrong!

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 15:21 (three years ago) link

His last couple of documentaries have displayed some pretty clear right-wing sympathies at points, iirc, but he's generally hard to pin down ideologically.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Tuesday, 20 April 2021 15:27 (three years ago) link

When he did the Yorkshire section of Nairn's Journeys, he, in his own words, "bumped into" the great bluesman Champion Jack Dupree whilst doing a section of the programme in Halifax. The two got on rather well and maintained a close correspondence almost right up to his own death.

very interesting detail from the Ian Nairn wiki!

calzino, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 15:44 (three years ago) link

I think being a restaurant critic at some point almost guarantees you are going to have picked up some tedious edgelord tendencies.

calzino, Tuesday, 20 April 2021 16:02 (three years ago) link

seven months pass...

Further to the question of his being right wing: remembered the other day that his programme on France is some truly shameful stuff. Lots of sympathy for the soldiers of the Algerian conflict who went into far right terrorism, entirely unhinged portrait of France (France!) as a self-hating country where political correctness has gone mad.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 29 November 2021 11:16 (two years ago) link

that... doesn't sound great. Was this a recent show?

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Monday, 29 November 2021 11:20 (two years ago) link

No, just popped into my mind the other day for some reason. It was already archived on youtube when I started watching it, probably close to a decade ago. Lemme check, it's from 2012.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 29 November 2021 11:25 (two years ago) link

Fragments of an Arbitrary Encyclopaedia ?

calzino, Monday, 29 November 2021 11:27 (two years ago) link

I watched this recently too and some of his stuff about Algeria struck me as a bit ripe, albeit that if his claims of a massacre of French loyalists are even half-true then sympathy is more understandable

I forget the politically-correct riffing but every time I do watch one of his (generally excellent) programmes there's always a Provocative Bit

imago, Monday, 29 November 2021 11:28 (two years ago) link

(or if it's the Essex one (which I still enjoy), Several Provocative Bits lol)

imago, Monday, 29 November 2021 11:34 (two years ago) link

I think that's the one yeah calz. Made me angry enough to not check out the other eps.

Seem to remember one quip was abt a dude who'd been responsible for a pro-independence terrorist attack in Algeria that killed several women ending up as a women's studies professor, YoU CoUlDn'T mAke It uP!

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 29 November 2021 11:37 (two years ago) link

The other episodes are good tbf. One of them is all about how weirdly American-aspiring France is

imago, Monday, 29 November 2021 11:39 (two years ago) link

I would lay money on him being a covidiot

glumdalclitch, Monday, 29 November 2021 14:23 (two years ago) link


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