can we talk about MAD MEN on AMC on this NEW thread ('cause the original one's getting way too long)

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waiting for something to happen is what that show is for

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 2 July 2020 02:02 (three years ago) link

I'm not complaining--I understand--but it is pretty clear from Don's embarrassed reaction (not to mention your own) that, as the tweet says, the context is already there. Roger also has cringeworthy moments involving the Japanese guys from Honda and (very first episode) the impending meeting with Rachel's Jewish-owned department store. And lots else...the blackface episode is indeed the worst of that. The world leaving behind a couple of Eisenhower-era guys is one of the show's central themes.

clemenza, Thursday, 2 July 2020 02:25 (three years ago) link

Think it's pretty clear in the ep: after the blackface skit, Don has a little talk with Roger, who bleats, "They're just jealous 'cause I'm happy!" Don: "No one thinks you're happy."
At a family member's behest, I've watched the complete run of The Division on antenna TV. Hamm (token male cop) is very good all through (good ensemble in plain clothes cop show, from early 00s)(with okay writing for a cop show).

dow, Thursday, 2 July 2020 02:45 (three years ago) link

it's *crystal* clear in the episode iirc. glad they settled for just an intro card. that should be the standard practice for such moves imo

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 2 July 2020 02:54 (three years ago) link

Pete Campbell is the only person there who looks legit horrified iirc

nate woolls, Thursday, 2 July 2020 03:18 (three years ago) link

You're right. I said Don, but his embarrassment was more mild; it was Pete who was mortified.

clemenza, Thursday, 2 July 2020 05:59 (three years ago) link

Pete being both generally the most "liberal" of the bunch (well, the men, anyway) but still a huge prick is one of my favorite things about the show

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 2 July 2020 06:44 (three years ago) link

surely that accolade applies to Kinsey equally!

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 2 July 2020 07:46 (three years ago) link

I guess I considered Kinsey a second-stringer.

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 2 July 2020 07:54 (three years ago) link

I've posted about this before, but my favourite Mad Men moment related to race (like all huge topics of the day--the war, emerging feminist and gay rights consciousness--slowly and obliquely making its way into the antiquated, cloistered world of SC&P) was Roger's reaction to MLK's assassination. He has no conception of what MLK was saying (or at least chooses not to) and can only understand him in terms of advertising: "Man knew how to talk. I don’t know why, but I thought that would save him. I thought it would solve the whole thing." In terms of getting a character exactly right, brilliant.

clemenza, Thursday, 2 July 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link

six months pass...

Haven't checked this against what I remember, but "a list of almost every film that has been mentioned, referenced, quoted, and parodied in Matthew Weiner’s Mad Men."

http://letterboxd.com/ledzeppelin/list/mad-men/

One of the comments does give pause: "Where's Planet of the Apes?" A rather egregious omission.

clemenza, Sunday, 3 January 2021 01:17 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Another re-watch, and again, will try not to post too much (mostly because I'll inevitably repeat stuff I've already said). Two-and-half seasons in, something I noticed for the first time: how often someone says "That's true," usually with a wry smile on their face--at least six or seven times thus far.

clemenza, Thursday, 2 June 2022 02:59 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

I've been periodically posting these movie-music Zoomcasts I've been doing with a friend. We finally got around to Mad Men for our 70th, which brings things full circle: the Zoomcasts came out of a book which came out of a blog which came out of Mad Men. We have another ~15 to cover and then we're finished.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjvN3j1poK4

clemenza, Thursday, 27 October 2022 00:26 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

Just needs a WHO SAYS NO to be the most Ringer tweet of all time.

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 27 November 2023 17:43 (five months ago) link


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