Documentaries I have loved

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I've just googled and found out Martin Parr was behind it. The boring postcards man.

Ha ha. This reminds me of the opening line of my friend Jason's first philosophy essay at Trinity: 'Rene Descartes is a dead famous French philosopher.'

Lara (Lara), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 09:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hoop Dreams and Crumb spring to mind.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 18:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Crumb and When We are Kings.

Do the Qatsi's count?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 18:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

my favorite:
sans soleil

the most haunting:
silverlake life: the view from here

gygax!, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 18:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Mr. Death was pretty good. Has no one mentioned Vinyl yet? Triumph of the Will was a bit dull, but perhaps mostly because my friend wouldn't let me MSTify it -- he was studying German and wanted to see if he could follow Adolf without reading the subtitles. (There is a shot, early on during the endless parade scene, where you see a kitty sitting in an apartment window, and that is the image that has stuck in my head all these years: The poor kitty in the Nazi family! So unaware of what was going on!)

My favorites are probably Frederick Wiseman's, or at least the two I've seen. His technique is to shoot a lot of footage, edit it, and not really add any background music or provide any explanatory context, just "let the scenes speak for themselves", so to speak. It's fairly different from, say, the Errol Morris style. "High School" is about a late 60s Philadelphia high school, and is scary and fascinating in exactly the ways you'd expect: The faculty come up with all these petty ways to show how much more powerful and important they are than the students, and it's all very sad. "Meat" is a detailed look at the meat industry, following some cows as they go from the farm (where they're fattened) to the slaughterhouse (with a very long and detailed and disgusting at times disturbingly beautiful sequence of the entire slaughtering process) to the market.

Chris P (Chris P), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 18:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

American Movie is hilarious and very non-intellectual

Oops (Oops), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 18:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Harlan County, USA

Oops (Oops), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 18:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Grass

Oops (Oops), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 18:53 (twenty-one years ago) link

which was the one about the U.S. street kids/homeless teens
which was nominated for an oscar for best documentary, and
wherein the main guy in it died before the end of the film ?

piscesboy, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 19:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

Chris, 'Shotgun Freeway' was like City of Quartz-lite. I was disappointed...

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 19:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Somebody has spoken about this before, but A Century of the Self (shown in the UK about a year OK) was the best documentary I've seen in years.

In fact, I'm still trying to lay my hands on a copy of it.


bert, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

What was it, Bert?

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

adam curtis is my god (see upthread several times)

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Has anyone seen Wisconsin Death Trip?

Cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Recent ones I have seen and enjoyed:
The Agnes Varda one about rummaging in the rubbish - Les Glaneuses or something - fantastic.
Promises - about ickle kids from Palestine and Israel - poor little things.
IMAX 3D documentary about Spacestation Pongo - you get to wear Elton John Rocket Man glasses.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

It was a cultural history of the twentieth century, focusing on successive members of the Freud family. It argued that Freud's concept of the subconcious had led to the birth of public relations, modern advertising, and modern government. It also showed how psychological theory had been used by corporations and governments to influence the behaviour of the masses.


bert, Wednesday, 12 February 2003 20:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

That sounds good.

I saw some of Wisconsin Death Trip. I didn't really get into it.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 22:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

Um, was Wisconsin Death Trip based on the book or vice versa or does anyone know? (I am an avid advocate for anyone who is feeling grumpy to read WDT - after hearing about all of the gorey ways to die/go insane/lose everything/hurt yourself/hurt others, life suddenly looks brighter.)

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 22:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

Damn, I was way off on that one (thanks to the IMDB!)

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 22:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

No - it *was* based on the book, Laura. What did you mean about IMDB?

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 22:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Internet Movie DataBase, Nick - http://www.imbd.org. Oh, and after actually reading the review (as opposed to skimming and seeing words "heavy-metal band" and immediately assuming that it's not the same story) I am convinced that it is the same story (kinda helps that the plot summary points it out, too).

Here's what it has to say:


Plot Summary for
Wisconsin Death Trip (1999)

Wisconsin Death Trip is an intimate, shocking and sometimes hilarious account of the disasters that befell one small town in Wisconsin during the final decade of the 19th century. The film is inspired by Michael Lesy's book of the same name which was first published in 1973. Lesy discovered a striking archive of black and white photographs in the town of Black River Falls dating from the 1890s and married a selection of these images to extracts from the town's newspaper from the same decade. The effect was surprising and disturbing. The town of Black River Falls seems gripped by some peculiar malaise and the weekly news is dominated by bizarre tales of madness, eccentricity and violence amongst the local population. Suicide and murder are commonplace. People in the town are haunted by ghosts, possessed by devils and terrorized by teenage outlaws and arsonists. Like the book, the film is constructed entirely from authentic news reports from the Black River Falls' newspaper with occasional excerpts from the records of the nearby Mendota Asylum for the Insane. The film also makes use of the haunting black and white photographs taken by the resident portrait photographer of Black River Falls at the end of the 19th century. Contemporary color documentary footage of the town today is also included at the end of each section of the film that take place over the course of four seasons.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 23:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

I know what the imdb is, Laura! Yeah, I figured after looking that it must have been the heavy metal thing that put you off.

N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 23:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

*laughing* I gotta get better about not scanning stuff!

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Wednesday, 12 February 2003 23:05 (twenty-one years ago) link

Has anyone seen Blind Spot, the documentary about Hitler's Secretary? It's supposed to be great.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 13 February 2003 10:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

Is that the one with the dancing gerbils?

Lara (Lara), Thursday, 13 February 2003 12:03 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dunno, haven't seen it.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 13 February 2003 12:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

If it's the one with the gerbils, it's alright for a bit and then gets tiresome.

Lara (Lara), Thursday, 13 February 2003 12:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

two months pass...
I have now got BBC4 again and am hard for lots of documentary watching. What's been on lately that's good and it likely to repeated a billion times?

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 10 May 2003 20:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

I have now got BBC4 again and am hard

Bless your heart.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 May 2003 20:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

"Dark Days"... a truly amazing, dark, unusual, disturbing documentary about the guys who live underneath the subway system in New York city. It has a brilliant score by DJ Shadow, and might just be the best documentary I've seen so far.

Also worth mention: Roger & Me, Gates of Heaven, Crumb

Has anyone seen "Heart of Darkness: A filmmaker's Apocalypse"? I never see it at my video store

The Man they call Dan (The Man they call Dan), Saturday, 10 May 2003 20:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh yeah, I saw 'Dark Days' in the cinema. Bizarre and wonderful.

N. (nickdastoor), Saturday, 10 May 2003 20:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

bbc2 showed Hearts of darkness..... it was supremely enlightening look behind one mans film making journey (!) well worth hunting down (i think it may even be a double feature now)

As for dark days this was so scary a docu as lerts face it could you live like that - and when they all got moved out it was like ...what now, it certainly woke me up to what people go through in life - and i thought i new some stuff.

Hoop dreams i love, just love - "immma keep on and on, and ima never stop"

james (james), Saturday, 10 May 2003 20:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

currently watching the ron jeremy docu - Whats a piledrivver???

oooh Jon Ronson's them was fantastic and the holidays in the axis of evil was an eye opener. Man utd are gonna sell so many shirts in iraq now sadd@ms gone

james (james), Saturday, 10 May 2003 20:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

World Link TV just ran a great documentary on a art historian who traveled into Afghanistan last year to see what was left of the Afghan museums, ancient sites, etc. (there was a LOT more than just the Buddas)

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 10 May 2003 21:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

Second lots of these plus:
Brother's Keeper
Educating Peter
An American Family (PBS Series and the first reality show)
And that one about the West Memphis Six

David Beckhouse (David Beckhouse), Saturday, 10 May 2003 21:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yeah, the ending of Dark Days is great. You realize that these people are just like you or your neighbors, all it takes is the wrong choices to end up like them. I found the additional info on the DVD very interesting, including the fact that the director ended up completely broke because of the long time it took to make this film, and actually started living down in the underground village. He got the equipment, film, and studio time to finish the film just because of the charity of others.

The Man they call Dan (The Man they call Dan), Saturday, 10 May 2003 22:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
Apart from anyhing else, wasn't last night's 'The Power Of Nightmares' such a beautifully-made documentary? I'm so looking forward to next week's episode.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 21 October 2004 02:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I am deeply envious of those individuals who've gotten to see the full An American Family. I keep on hoping and praying that PBS will eventually be able to get the clearance to run the whole of that 1973 (?) "original reality series", from beginning to end, based on one episode I was lucky enough to catch during a night when PBS was paying tribute to the then-recently deceased Lance Loud.

I had been really curious about Capturing the Friedmans, ever since I first heard about it, but at the time it only seemed to last a couple of weeks in the local theaters, so I had to wait until HBO aired it to actually see it, and what I saw was quite haunting. You don't really know whether the two accused people were actually guilty or if they were fully innocent, and it does seem to say a lot not only about mass hysteria but also about dysfunctional family dynamics wrapped up in a seemingly perfect package.

I've gotten to see Garden a few times and I find it quite sad. It's the documentary about two teenaged runaways in Israel, one Jewish and the other Palestinian, who are both best friends and male prostitutes, who live out on the streets and do quite a lot just to survive. I first stumbled across this documentary while flipping channels and it drew me in. You do get to caring about the two boys featured in the documentary.

I wish there was some documentary out there about the New Romantic scene. I would love to see its origins, not only in London but throughout England, its rise, and how things were like at the clubs at the point where the scene was at its zenith. I would adore the opportunity to see my favorite musical genre covered in such historical terms. (But realistically, the chances of that happening are as good as, oh, say, the Boston Red Sox going to the World Series. Oh. Wait. *wink*)

Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 21 October 2004 04:55 (nineteen years ago) link

three years pass...

All of a sudden been catching the odd one:

- Did anyone see the last doc Jon Ronson Made for C4 a few weeks ago? About the unitarian priest who provides er, 'comfort' to people who are about to die. Didn't quite know what to make of Jon concluding by saying he liked him!

- Terror's Advocate was also pretty amazing, first time I've been to see a doc in the cinema. Verges proved to be actually fascinating, but he was only the starting point for a history of mid and late 20th century terrorism.

- The Sorrow and the Pity hasn't been mentioned so I will now.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 14 June 2008 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Does A Decade Under The Influence count? I loved those. Recently I've seen a few that I liked but didn't love: Helvetica and 51 Birch Street. I love a few that were mentioned earlier, Grey Gardens, Crumb, Gates of Heaven and of course the Up series. Most recent doc I recall loving is Mad Hot Ballroom.

craven, Sunday, 15 June 2008 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh I forgot about Z Channel! I love love love that one.

craven, Sunday, 15 June 2008 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Iraq In Fragments, Devil and Daniel Johnston, Half Japanese: The Band That Would Be King, The Mother, Forbidden Lie$, Summercamp!, Crumb, Salesmen, Darwin's Nightmare, Manda Bala, American Teen, The Trials of Darryl Hunt, The Falling Man, The Monastery, Off the Grid: Life on the Mesa , Hoop Dreams...

I think one reason I love documentary film so much is that the genre keeps getting better and better each year as films start to experiment more with the form.

Tape Store, Monday, 16 June 2008 02:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I saw 'Encounters at the End of the World' this weekend, it was quite moving and funny.

calstars, Monday, 16 June 2008 02:33 (fifteen years ago) link

I think one reason I love documentary film so much is that the genre keeps getting better and better each year as films start to experiment more with the form.

I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean. If anything documentary has gotten more conservative in the last 10-20 years. And when does your timeline start? Flahrety? Lumiere?

C0L1N B..., Monday, 16 June 2008 04:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I like documentaries (a lot)

Documentaries I have seen in the past year or so and would recommend to others (in no particular order): Grey Gardens; King of Kong; Jesus Camp; Capturing the Friedmans; Vernon, Florida; Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe; The Devil and Daniel Johnston; Who the @#$% is Jackson Pollack; Gimme Shelter; Born Into Brothels; How to Draw a Bunny; Wordplay; Tarnation; When the Levees Broke;

Documentaries I plan to see: Lake of Fire; Jonestown; My Kid Could Paint That; Standard Operating Procedure; Hoop Dreams; No Direction Home; Fast, Cheap & Out of Control; Mr. Death; Cocksucker Blues; Why We Fight

All time favorites: American Movie, The Fog of War, The Thin Blue Line; Winged Migration; Crumb; The Decline of Western Civilization Part II: The Metal Years

It is worth mentioning that my girlfriend and I recently had the bright idea to watch the entirety of Ken Burns' The War in an all-day marathon. I highly recommend the series, but do not do as I did unless you're OK with a night of really fucked up dreams.

Question: Do I have an Errol Morris fetish? Answer: Yes.

Question #2: I can't remember the name of a film I saw earlier this year. It was about a reclusive artist with a mental illness who lived alone in a boarding house and, upon dying, bestowed upon the world a secret pile of drawings and writings that depicted a painstakingly detailed and brilliantly illustrated fantasy world involving a group of nubile teenage girls who were being preyed upon by some evil monsters or something. This movie was actually really great. Could someone please remind me what it is called?

Nice to see the Borchardt love on this thread. The man is a personal hero of mine.

Pillbox, Monday, 16 June 2008 04:28 (fifteen years ago) link

In The Realms of the Unreal?

C0L1N B..., Monday, 16 June 2008 04:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah that's the one. And fast! Thank you sir.

Pillbox, Monday, 16 June 2008 04:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Lake of Fire wasn't as brutal as I thought it would be. In fact, the only part that bothered me was when it turned into Chomsky & co. talking head party at the end. Not that I disagreed with what they said, but it lost any sense of narrative. Really good movie, tho.

Abbott, Monday, 16 June 2008 04:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I liked "This Film Is Not Yet Rated"...tons of surprising facts I didn't know about the MPAA, and pretty entertaining to boot.

Abbott, Monday, 16 June 2008 04:41 (fifteen years ago) link

SOund and Fury, which is about a deaf family whose five year old daughter wants a cochlear implant, is way hardcore and fascinating, too.

Abbott, Monday, 16 June 2008 04:43 (fifteen years ago) link


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