"Pauline Kael said it was 'meditative', but I fell asleep."

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The "B-" picture quality is probably carted over from a shitty "C-" (I'm being generous) VHS dub courtesy http://www.5minutestolive.com/

Subtitles are impossible to read at least half the time. (Luckily, dialogue accounts for probably a collective 15 minutes of the three-hour-plus film.)

Eric von H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 21 May 2005 04:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks for the link. Do I correctly assume that you own, or anyway have seen, one of the VHS or DVD dubs of Jeanne Dielman from that site? If so, would you consider the image quality at least adequate to drop $20 on the thing, or no? I am tempted.

box of socks, Saturday, 21 May 2005 04:44 (eighteen years ago) link

"I saw Jeanne Dielman four or five years ago in a tiny theater. It was about 97 degrees Fahrenheit that day and the theater had the air conditioning CRANKED so that it was seriously about 50 degrees in there. There was also a BAT loose in the theater that occasionally flitted to and fro in front of the screen and over the audiences' heads. No one fell asleep."

This is so great.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Saturday, 21 May 2005 04:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Yes. I will always remember Red Eye Collaboration Cinema in my prayers for bringing me the Arctic Bat-O-Vision presentation of Chantal Akerman's masterpiece. It was the best film-going experience of my life, and I do not exclude from that assessment the time I saw Syberberg's Our Hitler in its entirety at the Art Institute of Chicago when I was 15 and very very high.

box of socks, Saturday, 21 May 2005 04:59 (eighteen years ago) link

(Because, surprise, I cannot remember one single thing about Our Hitler.) (It was 25 years ago anyway.) (I'll shut up now.)

box of socks, Saturday, 21 May 2005 05:06 (eighteen years ago) link

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00008976Y.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

Remy (x Jeremy), Saturday, 21 May 2005 05:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Do I correctly assume that you own, or anyway have seen, one of the VHS or DVD dubs of Jeanne Dielman from that site?

Yes. (Have seen, that is.)

If so, would you consider the image quality at least adequate to drop $20 on the thing, or no?

No. It will impugn your memory of that fantastic-sounding viewing experience.

Eric von H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 21 May 2005 05:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks again. I will save my $20, wait (forever, probably) for official release, and keep my memory untarnished.

...All right, ONE more thing: has anyone ever seen Last Year at Marienbad? It's reportedly incredibly slow, and weirdly skewed w/r/t character and narrative, but also totally worthwhile.

box of socks, Saturday, 21 May 2005 05:37 (eighteen years ago) link

i have seen it and i owned it for a while, but i decided to sell it for 90 bucks.

its worthwhile, but not nearly my favorite of resnais'. hiroshima mon amour is so much better in my opinion.

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Saturday, 21 May 2005 05:40 (eighteen years ago) link

The first Ackerman I saw was "Window Shopping"/"The 80s", which were both pretty great, although only one of them was "meditative". (Window Shopping is a musical [unless I'm confused] and The 80s breaks it down into small actions and elements which it repeats in assorted combinations.)

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 21 May 2005 06:09 (eighteen years ago) link

"le maman et la putain" is astonishing!

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 21 May 2005 06:27 (eighteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

Something is now compelling me to say
Search: Marguerite Duras' India Song and The Truck

Ha, Ken, I saw these the last two Tuesdays at the French Institute -- last night with John Waters discussing The Truck with Kent Jones of Film Comment! Hadn't seen any of hers (unless Hiroshima Mon Amour counts) before, and it'll be awhile before I try anymore. India Song really seems to stop time, but when Michel Lonsdale starts his 10-minute offscreen bellowing wail, omigod.
...Jeanne Dielman is paced like Run Lola Run by comparison.

Waters was funny ("They talk about the characters falling asleep! Very brave") and Jones suggested a US remake with Vin Diesel and Kathy Bates. And it was mentioned that Kael gave The Truck one of its few good NY reviews in '77.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Did I say something?

Oh, I see.

Redd Scharlach (Ken L), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link

yes i've always wanted to see the truck thanks to that review!

and also to test my own boredomometer -- which is capricious of course (AND THAT'S HOW I LIKE IT)

ie TS: bein aged and havin less TIME for this kind of thing vs. bein aged and apprecitatin a good long sit down and doze

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha, mark. For a long time it was the second, but am now so starved by bigscreen entertainment that I actually stay awake if by some miracle I manage to get to the theater.

Actually-although I cleverly refrained from saying so in my first post- I love Le Camion. India Song I found a little tough-going, but, as with the corresponding moments in Fassbinder movies, I laughed along with the cruel godlike filmmaker at Lonsdale's embarrassing outburst.

Redd Scharlach (Ken L), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Anything by:

Kiarostami
Koreeda

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

mabaroshi really IS my favourite film! (but don't tell tuomas)

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

search: time out, stalker

destroy: ulysses' gaze (which i couldn't get more than an hour into, though it did have some wonderful shots)

gear (gear), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Did anyone mention *The Creation Of The Humanoids* yet? I watched this stoned years ago and it lasted at least 3 days. bad actors standing around talking robot philosophy FOREVER. unbelievable. A sci-fi trance film that isn't russian! also andy warhol's fave movie and where he stole everything from. you can get it for 5 bucks on dvd.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:26 (eighteen years ago) link

damn Ken, I ached along with Lonsdale's embarrassing outburst.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link

Search Last Days and Gerry.

inert false cat (sleep), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 19:34 (eighteen years ago) link

search: Nobody Knows.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 20:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Love of cinema is colder than death, Morbius. And don't forget Lonsdale's cheap thrills in one of the versions of Une Sale Histoire.

Redd Scharlach (Ken L), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't forget it cuz I haven't seen it.

People above do not know what slow films are.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link

I just got what seems to be a newly issued DVD copy of Desert Of The Tartars. I'll let you all know whether you should search of destroy.

Redd Scharlach (Ken L), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link

three years pass...

search: l'avventura, in the mood for love
destroy: fanny and alexander

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Sunday, 5 July 2009 01:09 (fourteen years ago) link

one more to destroy: russian ark

dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Sunday, 5 July 2009 01:25 (fourteen years ago) link

fanny and alexander is one of those things i have forgotten so much of i start to wonder if i am having memory issues: it was six hours long, and there was a fire, and possibly a lesbian?

i liked russian ark, though

thomp, Sunday, 5 July 2009 01:28 (fourteen years ago) link

there was everything, there was lyfe

you know what, fuck you (Lamp), Sunday, 5 July 2009 01:32 (fourteen years ago) link

i also like russian ark

velko, Sunday, 5 July 2009 01:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Search: Seventh Continent (lots of Haneke actually)
Avoid: Inland Empire - unless you really like David Lynch, then you might like it.

incomprehensible Kool-Aid swallower (sarahel), Sunday, 5 July 2009 01:34 (fourteen years ago) link

what's that hungarian one that's like 8 hrs long

harbl, Sunday, 5 July 2009 01:35 (fourteen years ago) link

begins with an s......

harbl, Sunday, 5 July 2009 01:35 (fourteen years ago) link

destroy: ulysses' gaze (which i couldn't get more than an hour into, though it did have some wonderful shots)

― gear

oh man, i made it all the way to the end(over 3 hours iirc)
terrible

velko, Sunday, 5 July 2009 01:35 (fourteen years ago) link

bela tarr's satantango! i went to see it by accident once. i made it through 3 hours but i was too hungry to go on.

harbl, Sunday, 5 July 2009 01:36 (fourteen years ago) link

netflix keeps recommending the Decalogue to me, is it worth seeing?

incomprehensible Kool-Aid swallower (sarahel), Sunday, 5 July 2009 01:39 (fourteen years ago) link

bela tarr's satantango! i went to see it by accident once

haha how can u wind up seeing something like this "by accident"??? were u looking for the other 8 hour hungarian epic that was playing and got the titles confused???

decalogue is enh

you know what, fuck you (Lamp), Sunday, 5 July 2009 01:40 (fourteen years ago) link

i haven't seen it but i want to. but it's 10 parts, not one 10-hour thing, so maybe it would be ok.

harbl, Sunday, 5 July 2009 01:40 (fourteen years ago) link

(xp)

harbl, Sunday, 5 July 2009 01:40 (fourteen years ago) link

well someone told me it was good, "but long" (lol) and i usually pay close attention to how long something is but for some reason i didn't even look before i went. i was like "that's weird that this starts at noon but ok" ughhhhhhhhhhh

harbl, Sunday, 5 July 2009 01:42 (fourteen years ago) link

also the guy talking before it announced how many reels it was, so every time a reel was over i was like "ok only x reels left." it was impossible.

harbl, Sunday, 5 July 2009 01:43 (fourteen years ago) link

i like the parts of decalogue i've seen, like 5-6. can you get it in parts?

velko, Sunday, 5 July 2009 01:44 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah iirc the dvds have a couple parts on them each?

harbl, Sunday, 5 July 2009 01:45 (fourteen years ago) link

at least you didn't have to see it for a class ... our college's film studies program - the intro classes anyway - were almost entirely about testing the students' patience. It was very effective at weeding out people that just liked movies. Probably the most excruciating were Wavelength and Laura Mulvey's Riddles of the Sphinx.

incomprehensible Kool-Aid swallower (sarahel), Sunday, 5 July 2009 01:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Ashes of Time was pretty slow/good as I remember

Niles Caulder, Sunday, 5 July 2009 01:47 (fourteen years ago) link

the dvd set is set up like a tv on dvd thing - couple of episodes a disc pretty sure. also i mean obv its arresting and theres a lot there but its just pretty tedious and hard to invest in i think. and its kind of a trap because i think its a "better" to watch them all so u feel obligated but theyre pretty same-y too

you know what, fuck you (Lamp), Sunday, 5 July 2009 01:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I think I love most of the movies on this thread. I like to wrassle with unwieldy cinema.

bad crack (Eric H.), Sunday, 5 July 2009 01:50 (fourteen years ago) link

i think the guy said satantango has less than 100 cuts in the entire 7.5 hours too. so a lot of it is just like, watching it rain over a muddy field

harbl, Sunday, 5 July 2009 01:50 (fourteen years ago) link

i would actually attempt to watch it again, but not in one day

harbl, Sunday, 5 July 2009 01:50 (fourteen years ago) link

xxpost I especially like Satantango, Inland Empire and Jeanne Dielman.

bad crack (Eric H.), Sunday, 5 July 2009 01:51 (fourteen years ago) link


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