I was on the Mary Chain train from the start, but when Honey’s Dead came out, I thought that’s it, they will never top this. My favourite is Darklands tho. And “Sidewalkin” is my fav single.
― assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 1 October 2020 12:27 (three years ago) link
also I’m pretty sure William sings the William songs and Jim sings the Jim songs
― assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 1 October 2020 12:29 (three years ago) link
It doesn't say on my copy which songs are William songs and which are Jim songs?
(And yes, after 35 years, I still struggle to tell their voices apart - and also, occasionally Jim does sing William songs?)
― Branwell with an N, Thursday, 1 October 2020 12:35 (three years ago) link
Of that first run, Psychocandy is the one I listen to the least. Automatic the most, Darklands second, Honey's Dead I save for when I want to be surprised by how awesome it is. Maximum Curve crossover.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 October 2020 12:46 (three years ago) link
xp Wullie has the thicker brogue and huskier voice (“Nine Million Rainy Days”) and Jim has the nasal whine (“Reverence”)
― assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 1 October 2020 12:52 (three years ago) link
Jim does do a far better fake American accent, that's the only way I can ever distinguish them.
― Branwell with an N, Thursday, 1 October 2020 12:57 (three years ago) link
very true
― assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 1 October 2020 12:58 (three years ago) link
I downloaded the entire Neubauten discography based on this but didn't really know where to start. So I'm interested: where, based on loving the Mary Chain, should I start with them?
― All cars are bad (Euler), Thursday, 1 October 2020 13:06 (three years ago) link
If you want to know where the sample comes from, start at the very beginning with Kollaps.
The Neubauten stuff that JAMC are doing a kind of 'pop' version of on this album is probably more like Haus der Lüge, which is a good intro / entry point for a Mary Chain fan. Haus der Lüge or maybe Halber Mensch?
― Branwell with an N, Thursday, 1 October 2020 13:12 (three years ago) link
I've honestly never made much of a connection between Neubauten and JAMC. I guess you're talking the ... industrial noise? There are a few other acts I can think of that her really good at just draping poppy songs with artfully crafted white noise. AR Kane, Shriekback ... and yeah, Curve.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 October 2020 13:29 (three years ago) link
The connection is that the Mary Chain absolutely adored Neubauten?
Sampled them liberally on this album?
And they completely cop to it, like him out of Mogwai interviewed Jim and was all
SB: I’m out of questions, but I’m friends with Bobby and his question was: "On what record or song do you think you achieved the perfect combination of the Shangri Las and Einstürzende Neubauten?"
Which Jim said was too difficult, because, basically... all of them?
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/jun/15/mogwai-stuart-braithwaite-interviews-jesus-and-mary-chain-jim-reid-all-tomorrows-parties
(Have you ever heard Neubauten's cover of Sand by Nancy Sinatra, because that track is basically the basis of at least 50% of the Mary Chain's more downbeat, acoustic albums like Darklands and Stoned and Dethroned.)
― Branwell with an N, Thursday, 1 October 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link
thanks, I'm excited to check this all out!
― All cars are bad (Euler), Thursday, 1 October 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link
xpost I just mean I wouldn't expect any fan of one to necessarily be a fan of the other.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 October 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link
Anyway, one of the many things I like about the JAMC is that they are the perfect synthesis of so many blatant influences.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 October 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link
I read somewhere that neither Jim nor William can remember or work out who sang what on Psychocandy.
I dug out Almost Gold today for the first time in a while thanks to the thread bump and it's solid end to end but something about the baggy-by-numbers drums on a couple of songs puts it behind the first two albums for me.
― here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Thursday, 1 October 2020 15:24 (three years ago) link
Honey's Dead, even
― here we go, ten in a rona (onimo), Thursday, 1 October 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link