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I think I am going to buy this at lunch at the local $10 DVD sale

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link

Nath, we quit watching...BTGD is pretty crap tho. Marilyn Chambers gets kidnapped and then put in a hypnotic trance or something. She goes out onto a stage in front of an audience of assorted weirdos all glammed out. A black guy comes out w/tribal makeup/necklaces and big white pants w/a hole cut out for his dong, they're playing all this wacky drum music, it's totally offensive & not sexy. Then she blows a guy while giving two others handjobs; the guys aresuspended in head-level swings. The only good thing abt it is the money shot, they play some scary-ass synth drone like a more malignant Tangerine Dream, and it does that '70s video effect of black silhoutte/solid color background, transposed over one another and in super slow motion. -fin-

― Abbott, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry to derail. I love Boogie Nights and I do think it's fucking hilarious. It felt a little too long tho.

PHS buying a sports car to win a man's love>>>>>>>>>>>>WHM buying braces to win a man's love

― Abbott, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:08 (seventeen years ago) link

The scene with "The Touch" is absolutely one of my favorite scenes of any movie, ever.

― nickalicious, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:17 (seventeen years ago) link

this movie's about as deep as 'pulp fiction' which isn't to say it's bad (it's extremely entertaining) but its overtures at depth are just window dressing. and the turn towards the darkside just feels mechanical and meaningless (because after all it's not really a downward slide for anyone, it's just one or two bad nights on the town).

― botero, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I agree, except I only found it fitfully entertaining.

Oh, and the only overt homosexuality (in this very pansexual demimonde) is from Phil S Hoffman's pathetic lackey fag? Depressing.

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 23 March 2007 19:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Abbot OTM about Behind the Green Door! Pretty much sucks but the psychedelic ending sequence is a wonder to behold... there's far more interesting/stranger 70s porn fare out there (Sexworld! Cafe Flesh!)

― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 23 March 2007 20:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't remember which of BN's laughs were intentional, amid all the pomposity. While I found Molina's perf excellent, I didn't find his scene fall-on-the-floor particularly funny, cuz I don't find yapping coke freaks hilarious.

yeah but it's a yapping coke freak playing Night Ranger with a scrawny dude in the b.g. throwing FIRECRACKERS

― latebloomer, Saturday, 24 March 2007 00:12 (seventeen years ago) link

absolutely hewn-from-stone classic.

although this thread is making me think i should maybe never watch it again, just in case i change my mind.

sometimes i hate ILX.

"magnolia" is one of my favourite ... not just films ... creations, i guess ... in the whole world ever.

― grimly fiendish, Saturday, 24 March 2007 00:22 (seventeen years ago) link

t's just one or two bad nights on the town

Uh, I dunno about that... when yr givin weird guys handies for blow money, that means you're on a bad streak. Yknow?

I love the scene with Molina, especially when he's talking about making mix-tapes, and then the tape turns over in the stereo and its called "My Awesome Mix #4'. And Jesse's Girl!

― the table is the table, Saturday, 24 March 2007 01:01 (seventeen years ago) link

"magnolia" is one of my favourite ... not just films ... creations, i guess ... in the whole world ever.

oy veh.. thats some horrible shit.

― chaki, Saturday, 24 March 2007 01:15 (seventeen years ago) link

grimly, just so you know...

Magnolia is my fave film of all time.
I can see why a person might not like it.
But I am so glad that I'm not that person.

― peepee, Saturday, 24 March 2007 02:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm still not quite sure what i think of Magnolia.

― latebloomer, Saturday, 24 March 2007 02:57 (seventeen years ago) link

i think anderson may be a bit too protective of his characters. he always takes their side!

― ryan, Saturday, 24 March 2007 03:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Put me in the defending Magnolia camp. I mean, I watch it and can see all the faults that other people point out and it makes total sense as to why people would hate it, but I still fucking love it each and every time.

― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Saturday, 24 March 2007 04:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Magnolia has some fantastic acting. But I hate Aimee Mann. The frogs. Mostly everything else about it, actually. I have a hard time hating anything with Seymour Hoffman in it, though...

― the table is the table, Saturday, 24 March 2007 04:46 (seventeen years ago) link

re: Magnolia

Jon Brion's score >>>>>>>>>> Aimee Mann's songs

(has this thread been hijacked?)

― peepee, Saturday, 24 March 2007 14:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Magnolia is underrated. Boogie Nights is overrated.

― Eric H., Saturday, 24 March 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Punch Drunk Love was R-rated. (Or was it?)

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 March 2007 15:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Metacritic says aye. It was also one of the most irritating, artificial films I've ever seen.

― unfished business, Saturday, 24 March 2007 15:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Magnolia is underrated

Not by drinkers of the PT Kool-Aid.

― Dr Morbius, Saturday, 24 March 2007 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

(postscript: Maybe I'll 'get' it if I see it again. I actually enjoyed it whilst it lasted, but it left the sourest of aftertastes. I felt duped, by the faux-eccentric touches (such as the capsizing lorry in the opening shot), which I felt had been used to spruce up a manipulative and wholly insightless 'fall guy gets the girl'-type love story whose characters I felt virtually no sympathy with.)

― unfished business, Saturday, 24 March 2007 16:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Not by drinkers of the PT Kool-Aid.

Yeah, I was sort of exempting them.

― Eric H., Saturday, 24 March 2007 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I felt like it took too negative a view of the porn world.

Is such a thing possible? Some nasty shit has gone on there...

Maybe I should re-watch it, but I remember it as a slice of porn world. I didn't find any real message in the film. It was just a depiction of what it was like back then. I always like to think of the porn world as extremely hard, *unless* you can shrug off all the nasty bits (literally and figuratively speaking).

― nathalie, Saturday, 24 March 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

It's Punch Drunk Love's achievement of sorts to indulge the most irritating actors in contemporary cinema.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, 24 March 2007 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I really enjoyed PDL. Eh, that and Hard Eight. Sheesh, should I call myself an Anderson fan? Ek, no. Magnolia just spoiled it for me.

― nathalie, Saturday, 24 March 2007 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

i think anderson may be a bit too protective of his characters. he always takes their side!

ryan on Friday, March 23, 2007 11:05 PM (Yesterday)

You're kidding, right? PT Anderson isn't quite the sadist that, say, Lars von Trier is, but the guy punishes his characters to an uncalled-for degree. Actually I think Anderson is worse because he acts like he cares about them so much--like a wife beater. "No one could ever love you the way I do." Smack, smack, smack!

I'm going to assume you're being sarcastic because that's a crazy thing to say.

― lindseykai, Saturday, 24 March 2007 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

uh... i'm going to assume you're joking about comparing a director to a wife beater.

― kenan, Saturday, 24 March 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I wasn't speaking literally. I don't think Fiona Apple or Maya Rudolph would put up with such behavior.

― lindseykai, Saturday, 24 March 2007 16:50 (seventeen years ago) link

possibly my favourite american film of the 90's. just fantastic.
where's the best, cheapest place to get the (still ludicrously unavailabele in the UK) Region 1 comic-book cover edition?

― pisces, Saturday, 24 March 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish all of Magnolia was just like the first 5 minutes, with footage of bizarro anomalies. They could still cut in the bits of Tom Cruise's seminar, which was fucking hilarious. They could also include the scene of Wllm. H. Macy in the bar while "the Logical Song" plays. Those are the only parts of the movie I remember clearly...the rest just felt like PSH sitting and pouting at Julianne Moore.

― Abbott, Saturday, 24 March 2007 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link

RESPECT THE COCK

― latebloomer, Saturday, 24 March 2007 21:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i think some rapper sampled that and Cruise sued the pants off of 'em

― latebloomer, Saturday, 24 March 2007 21:44 (seventeen years ago) link

It's not even his movie!

I think he should incorporate taming the cunt into his scino screels.

― Abbott, Saturday, 24 March 2007 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link

― Eric H., Saturday, 24 March 2007 22:41 (seventeen years ago) link

where's the best, cheapest place to get the (still ludicrously unavailabele in the UK) Region 1 comic-book cover edition?

it was going for $10 in virgin in new york when i was there in january, and i really regret not picking it up when i was there thanks to this thread (i dithered, fatally). check amazon.co.uk's used sales, it should be pretty cheap there.

― stevie, Sunday, 25 March 2007 09:28 (seventeen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

this movie's about as deep as 'pulp fiction' which isn't to say it's bad (it's extremely entertaining) but its overtures at depth are just window dressing.

I just watched this again and this is OTM - its a very empty movie. real heavy reliance on the soundtrack to carry a lot of the weight, lots of imitative gestures that are nicely done but don't add up to much. Is there a single line of dialogue in this movie that doesn't paint the speaker in unflattering light? PTA seems to really despise all the characters.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 9 April 2007 01:56 (seventeen years ago) link

seven months pass...

this film is golden.

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I hope you're talking about There Will Be Blood.

― Eric H., Wednesday, 5 December 2007 17:05 (sixteen years ago) link

giving it some ten-years-on love.

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 17:10 (sixteen years ago) link

it is very good

― Just got offed, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 17:28 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm going to re-screen 'magnolia'.

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 17:30 (sixteen years ago) link

not yet seen that one, may have a look to see if it's lying around

― Just got offed, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link

Heather Graham is some kind of genius.

― wanko ergo sum, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 17:40 (sixteen years ago) link

real heavy reliance on the soundtrack to carry a lot of the weight

i had this problem with 'singin in the rain'.

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 17:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Mark Wahlberg and Julianne Moore have gone on to give better performances.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 17:55 (sixteen years ago) link

Julianne Moore gave better performances before Nights imo, her big scene in Short Cuts for one.

― Eric H., Wednesday, 5 December 2007 17:56 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't think either of those assertions change the fact that they're both rocking the shit in 'boogie nights'.

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Indeed. Moore should've won every award in existence for that movie.

― Eric H., Wednesday, 5 December 2007 18:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Julianne Moore gave better performances before Nights imo

You didn't even mention Safe!

― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 December 2007 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link

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