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― clotpoll, Saturday, 11 July 2009 00:08 (fourteen years ago) link
actually dude is a poseur anyway but some of that burzum stuff cannot be denied no matter what
dude is the sociopathin'est. never seen someone change stories and justifications so much outside of (DA DA DA) the bush administration.
― next stop: NOWHERE, i wanna get off (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 11 July 2009 02:30 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah it's sort of a weird sociopathy/narcissistic personality d.o. combo in my opinion. like, his stories change when he thinks he can milk them for more attention. a good sociopath I expect to be a little more charming, this guy only charms people who're grimly determined to be charmed by him.
― worm? lol (J0hn D.), Saturday, 11 July 2009 02:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Do we already know what "the police had Snusen on me" means? :-(
― StanM, Monday, 3 August 2009 14:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Snusen is the "chewing tobacco" type stuff that you put between your upperlip and gums, don't think it's illegal though...
― willem, Monday, 3 August 2009 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Illegal in the EU, not in Sweden and Norway, apparently.
― willem, Monday, 3 August 2009 14:47 (fourteen years ago) link
I fucking sold Filosofem to a friend during an unload-everything-I-own flurry before I moved. Some of the biggest seller's regret I've had, though the rec is in deserving hands.
― producto do Brazil (╓abies), Monday, 3 August 2009 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Makes sense - see "snuff" (xpost)
― StanM, Monday, 3 August 2009 15:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Varg Vikernes (a.k.a. Count Grishnackh), the BURZUM mastermind who was convicted of murdering MAYHEM guitarist Oystein Aarseth (a.k.a. Euronymous) in August 1993 and setting fire to three churches, has issued the following update:"As you might already know, my dear ladies and gentlemen, and others individuals too, I am no friend of the modern so-called black metal culture. It is a tasteless, low-brow parody of Norwegian so-called black metal anno 1991-1992, and if it was up to me, it would meet its dishonourable end as soon as possible. However, rather than abandon my own music, only because others have soiled its name by claiming to have something in common with it, I will stick to it. The 'black metallers' will probably continue to 'get loaded,' 'get high,' and in all other manners too behave like the stereotypical Negro; they will probably continue to get foreign tribal tattoos, dress, walk, talk, look and act like homosexuals, and so forth. Some of the 'black metallers,' their fans and accomplices will probably even continue to pretend — and actually believe — they have something in common with BURZUM, but let me assure you; they don't! I play what can be described as some sort of metal music, all right, and they do too, but the similarities ends there. Freud wrote books. Tolkien wrote books. The similarities ends there."Why more of BURZUM? Well, I am what I am; a musician. Musicians produce music, when they can, and now I can; I am no longer imprisoned by the criminal anti-Norwegian regime in Norway. Will my music be any good? My guess is that if you like BURZUM you like BURZUM. If you don't, you don't. I do try to change all the time, but most of the time I fail, and many appreciate that. Others don't."The coming album is called 'Den Hvite Guden' (The White God) and is a musical and lyrical description of the the White God (alias Apollon, Baldr, Belenus, Belus, Bragi, Byelobog, Jarilo, et cetera) and the annual events of his life. I describe the stories of the myths like they could have been before they were myths, by presenting to you bits and pieces of the sorcery and religion of ancient Europe (more elaborately described in my unpublished book 'Trolldom og Religion i Oldtidens Skandinavia' [Sorcery and Religion in Ancient Scandinavia]). It is not intended for play the 'low-brow metal' style, but instead I imagine a listener willing to sit down, ideally in solitude, and think for a minute, about the White God and our forebears, whether they were Picto-British, Finnish, Gallic, Greek, Roman, Scandinavian, Scytho-Slavic, Daco-Thrakian or whatever, and about their magnificent, intelligent, positive, beautiful, healthy and strong culture. I try to help you create an image of this with the help of your own mind, by offering a few clues and guidelines. The album is political only in the way that it offers an alternative to the depravity offered to us by the intrusive popular culture and the commercial entertainment industry — and by modern so-called black metal, for that sake."The début album was intentionally anti-commercial and anti-death metal, the 'Det Som Engang Var' album was experimental, the 'Hvis Lyset Tar Oss' album was intentionally monotonous and ritual, the 'Filosofem' album was intentionally different from the others, 'Dauði Baldrs' was what I could do from a prison cell, and 'Hliðskjálf' too, but they were all music that I liked. 'Den Hvite Guden' will be no different in that respect, but I am older now, in fact twice as old as I was when I recorded the début album, and I am therefore different. The new album might differ from the old albums more than some might appreciate, but I hope not. Even if some of you might appreciate the old BURZUM, I must be allowed to evolve, just like everybody else. Maybe you will like the new BURZUM too. I will not do my best to copy and reproduce my old music, just to please somebody. I never did and I never will. If it sounds similar it is because it is made by the same person. If it sounds different it is because it is not the same music and because I have evolved."I can add that just like on the other metal albums (with the exception of 'Hvis Lyset Tar Oss'), 'Den Hvite Guden' features some very old BURZUM tracks. 'Filosofem' featured the 'Burzum' track, from 1991, and 'Den Hvite Guden' will feature the 'Uruk-Hai' track, from 1988-1989, although the title and the lyrics have been changed to fit the new concept. It will also feature the original 'Dauði Baldrs' metal track, from 1993. In a sense this album too will not be 'new material,' but just a collection of previously unpublished tracks; some new, some old. If some think my composing skills have disappeared altogether, then at least there will be some gems for them too."You can expect to see 'The White God' around March-April (anno 2010), when he traditionally returns from the hidden world of shadows."
"As you might already know, my dear ladies and gentlemen, and others individuals too, I am no friend of the modern so-called black metal culture. It is a tasteless, low-brow parody of Norwegian so-called black metal anno 1991-1992, and if it was up to me, it would meet its dishonourable end as soon as possible. However, rather than abandon my own music, only because others have soiled its name by claiming to have something in common with it, I will stick to it. The 'black metallers' will probably continue to 'get loaded,' 'get high,' and in all other manners too behave like the stereotypical Negro; they will probably continue to get foreign tribal tattoos, dress, walk, talk, look and act like homosexuals, and so forth. Some of the 'black metallers,' their fans and accomplices will probably even continue to pretend — and actually believe — they have something in common with BURZUM, but let me assure you; they don't! I play what can be described as some sort of metal music, all right, and they do too, but the similarities ends there. Freud wrote books. Tolkien wrote books. The similarities ends there.
"Why more of BURZUM? Well, I am what I am; a musician. Musicians produce music, when they can, and now I can; I am no longer imprisoned by the criminal anti-Norwegian regime in Norway. Will my music be any good? My guess is that if you like BURZUM you like BURZUM. If you don't, you don't. I do try to change all the time, but most of the time I fail, and many appreciate that. Others don't.
"The coming album is called 'Den Hvite Guden' (The White God) and is a musical and lyrical description of the the White God (alias Apollon, Baldr, Belenus, Belus, Bragi, Byelobog, Jarilo, et cetera) and the annual events of his life. I describe the stories of the myths like they could have been before they were myths, by presenting to you bits and pieces of the sorcery and religion of ancient Europe (more elaborately described in my unpublished book 'Trolldom og Religion i Oldtidens Skandinavia' [Sorcery and Religion in Ancient Scandinavia]). It is not intended for play the 'low-brow metal' style, but instead I imagine a listener willing to sit down, ideally in solitude, and think for a minute, about the White God and our forebears, whether they were Picto-British, Finnish, Gallic, Greek, Roman, Scandinavian, Scytho-Slavic, Daco-Thrakian or whatever, and about their magnificent, intelligent, positive, beautiful, healthy and strong culture. I try to help you create an image of this with the help of your own mind, by offering a few clues and guidelines. The album is political only in the way that it offers an alternative to the depravity offered to us by the intrusive popular culture and the commercial entertainment industry — and by modern so-called black metal, for that sake.
"The début album was intentionally anti-commercial and anti-death metal, the 'Det Som Engang Var' album was experimental, the 'Hvis Lyset Tar Oss' album was intentionally monotonous and ritual, the 'Filosofem' album was intentionally different from the others, 'Dauði Baldrs' was what I could do from a prison cell, and 'Hliðskjálf' too, but they were all music that I liked. 'Den Hvite Guden' will be no different in that respect, but I am older now, in fact twice as old as I was when I recorded the début album, and I am therefore different. The new album might differ from the old albums more than some might appreciate, but I hope not. Even if some of you might appreciate the old BURZUM, I must be allowed to evolve, just like everybody else. Maybe you will like the new BURZUM too. I will not do my best to copy and reproduce my old music, just to please somebody. I never did and I never will. If it sounds similar it is because it is made by the same person. If it sounds different it is because it is not the same music and because I have evolved.
"I can add that just like on the other metal albums (with the exception of 'Hvis Lyset Tar Oss'), 'Den Hvite Guden' features some very old BURZUM tracks. 'Filosofem' featured the 'Burzum' track, from 1991, and 'Den Hvite Guden' will feature the 'Uruk-Hai' track, from 1988-1989, although the title and the lyrics have been changed to fit the new concept. It will also feature the original 'Dauði Baldrs' metal track, from 1993. In a sense this album too will not be 'new material,' but just a collection of previously unpublished tracks; some new, some old. If some think my composing skills have disappeared altogether, then at least there will be some gems for them too.
"You can expect to see 'The White God' around March-April (anno 2010), when he traditionally returns from the hidden world of shadows."
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 20:25 (fourteen years ago) link
i liked him better when he was mysterious
― Buck Utah (rockapads), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 20:48 (fourteen years ago) link
he was still a prick then though
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link
At the time his prickishness was disguised by his murdering ways.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link
"I do try to change all the time . ." You could be trying A BIT FUCKING HARDER, to judge by the first paragraph.
― Soukesian, Wednesday, 18 November 2009 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link
haha Ned
― Buck Utah (rockapads), Wednesday, 18 November 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link
I hope his kid eventually starts some really twee band. Just to rebel against dear old dad.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 19 November 2009 06:12 (fourteen years ago) link
That made me really fucking depressed for some reason.
― my full five minutes of iguana time (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 November 2009 06:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Varg successfully trolling all the guys in the Burzum t-shirts
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 19 November 2009 07:22 (fourteen years ago) link
dudes come on
more elaborately described in my unpublished book 'Trolldom og Religion i Oldtidens Skandinavia'
he put it right there in the title
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 19 November 2009 07:48 (fourteen years ago) link
fikk fanget i skandinavia
― Vas Djifrens, Thursday, 19 November 2009 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link
totally
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 19 November 2009 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link
How many of us busting his chops will still give his new record a listen and buy a ticket to see him live when he does a big US tour?
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 19 November 2009 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link
might listen to record, wouldn't go see live.
― ian, Thursday, 19 November 2009 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link
in fact, probably listen to record. 99% chance. but not necc buy it.
― ian, Thursday, 19 November 2009 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i wouldn't buy it or see him tbh
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 19 November 2009 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm curious to hear the album, but I won't be paying for it if I do. Nor will I be seeing him live. I'd not want to align myself with the crazies that might come out of the woodwork, the ones that like him more for his ideals than his music.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 19 November 2009 22:44 (fourteen years ago) link
I know so many people in Portland that would pay any price to see him. But realistically, there would be protests here and the show would not be allowed to happen. If Boyd Rice can't play in Portland, Burzum really can't.
― Nate Carson, Thursday, 19 November 2009 22:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Oh I'm sure there are a lot of decent, respectable folks curious to see him. I just can't fathom handing someone that spouts his particular brand of hate my money.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 19 November 2009 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link
I'd rather watch Polanski flicks me
― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Thursday, 19 November 2009 22:51 (fourteen years ago) link
i kind of don't see him doing a world tour. Will definitely listen to any new material.
― Pedro Paramore (jim), Thursday, 19 November 2009 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Vaguely curious about what he might do next, musically. Absolutely will not give him any money for anything.
― my full five minutes of iguana time (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 November 2009 23:04 (fourteen years ago) link
i find this "omg i would not give this evil man any money" when you've probably spent money today that has gone to a corporation that has shares in an arms company that sells weapons to child soldiers in Africa or whatever but giving money to one lone nazi oddball is beyond the pale somehow.
― Pedro Paramore (jim), Thursday, 19 November 2009 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link
haha that was a badly written sentence but you get my meaning.
I am curious, from a philosophical standpoint, about the (widely prevalent in my experience) "I'll download it & listen but not support it with my money" position - isn't taking pleasure in something, and participating in it, no less a vote of support than buying it? especially with something underground, where it's not like the money he's going to get from record sales is going to make a huge difference in his life, or like the denial of income from ppl will make any impression on him either way. or on adherents to his ideology. it seems to me that if you're supporting the work with your heart by listening to it, the whole "I won't buy it" is something of a pose.
nb I strike the same pose; there's a ton of NSBM that I will listen to but feel very uncomfortable buying.
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 19 November 2009 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link
Pedro that argument is bullshit and you know it.
J0hn is definitely on the right track and something interesting to think about. Personally I just don't want to financially support the dude.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 19 November 2009 23:14 (fourteen years ago) link
I have to go pick up my wife now so I don't have time to type out all my rebuttals to you Pedro, but I'll start with this: I don't KNOWINGLY give my money to "evil corporations". Maybe I do, maybe I don't.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 19 November 2009 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Hit 'submit' early there.
With Burzum, I'm knowing that my money is going to someone with pretty abhorrent views.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 19 November 2009 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link
so nobody's silently contemplating the white gods on this thread?
― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Thursday, 19 November 2009 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link
J0hn: when an artist is operating in a marginal sort of way, every bit of active fan support counts. By "active support", I mean in terms of money given, broad/podcasting, positive words said publicly, shows booked, etc. All of these things help the artist to continue working and to reach heads. Passive support, of the sort where music is downloaded (stolen, as they say) and listened to in private affects no one but the listener - a listener who has, in this case, already been affected. Solitary attention doesn't increase the artist's public profile and it can't open new ears. It's therefore all but meaningless. I'll listen to Burzum in this way, out of morbid curiosity, but I won't pay him money to do what he does. I won't go see him play live.
As for Pedro's argument, fuck that. I don't claim to be morally perfect, but that doesn't mean that I'm a hypocrite when I make moral choices. WTF? Like I have to be without stain in order to take a stand against anything, ever? Fuck that.
― my full five minutes of iguana time (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 November 2009 23:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Passive support, of the sort where music is downloaded (stolen, as they say) and listened to in private affects no one but the listener
I don't actually agree with this, but then I believe in energy fields and shit like that.
― five minutes of iguana time (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 19 November 2009 23:27 (fourteen years ago) link
i just find it a little strange that people choose the Count as the place to draw a line in the sand.
― Pedro Paramore (jim), Thursday, 19 November 2009 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, this - I mean, spiritual support (which you give by taking pleasure in something) may not be quantifiable, but it's a thing, I think.
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 19 November 2009 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Dangit, enough with the iguana time.
I kinda thought about the energy fields thing while posting, Jon, though I can't say I believe. Even without quasi-metaphysical agency, it's reasonable to say that nothing has zero effect, so my passive support must have some impact on things. I suppose I'm just okay with that kinda low level quantum uncertainty.
And I draw lots of little lines in the sand, jim. Why not? I mean, who else besides me gets to decide what's right and wrong? I just hate the nihilism of the "well, you're imperfect in this way, so why worry about being imperfect in that way?" argument. Isn't it enough to just be imperfect?
― contenderizer, Thursday, 19 November 2009 23:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Well, yeah. But it has to be drawn somewhere. I also won't give me money to R Kelly or Chris Brown fwiw.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 19 November 2009 23:48 (fourteen years ago) link
I kind of wish sports arenas would stop playing rock & roll pt. II, but must admit curiosity re: burzum. Is filosofem the record to listen to if you're not planning on listening to any others?I agree there is an intangible that an artist gains from you listening to them regardless of any material support you deny them, but of the monetizable mindshare/branding kind rather than any spiritual hitpoints.
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 19 November 2009 23:49 (fourteen years ago) link
So there's no black metal fans here who in their heart-of-hearts believe "This is my culture as a arayan warrior god."
― Fox Force Five Punchline (sexyDancer), Thursday, 19 November 2009 23:57 (fourteen years ago) link
besides tom araya you mean?
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Friday, 20 November 2009 00:12 (fourteen years ago) link
tom araya's on ILX??
― ian, Friday, 20 November 2009 00:15 (fourteen years ago) link
he goes by "ned raggett," thought everybody knew this
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Friday, 20 November 2009 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link
isn't taking pleasure in something, and participating in it, no less a vote of support than buying it? it seems to me that if you're supporting the work with your heart by listening to it, the whole "I won't buy it" is something of a pose.
I think that's sort of the essential question though--in situations like this I have to hear what's under discussion to find out if my heart is in it. And if it is then there's a reevaluation due, but in my case at least we're talking downloading & listening as a satisfaction of morbid curiosity.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 20 November 2009 00:24 (fourteen years ago) link
^ cop out
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 20 November 2009 00:25 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.sportsdirect.com/official-burzum-t-shirt-mens-596577
― 3kDk (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 10:07 (nine years ago) link
shit, they've taken it away already... how about this? http://www.sportsdirect.com/official-emperor-t-shirt-mens-596587
― 3kDk (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 10:09 (nine years ago) link
Mayhem shirts too: http://www.sportsdirect.com/official-mayhem-t-shirt-mens-596600
― john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 10:20 (nine years ago) link
what a time to be alive
i've been looking for something to wear to my next metal concert and these are CHEEAP. On a scale of 1-10 how false metal would I be for ordering one of these?
― 3kDk (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 10:21 (nine years ago) link
i think if you soak it in a bucket of piss for a week you'll be alright
― john wahey (NickB), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 10:23 (nine years ago) link
presumably SD ordered a big consignment of these from the same manufacturers that supply Blue Banana/HMV/countless eBay and Amazon shops, so I don't really figure it makes much difference where you buy it from
― Kiss Screaming Seagull Her Seagull Her (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 10:40 (nine years ago) link
Stand out in a crowd with the Official Emperor T Shirt, featuring a large Gothic motif to the front and back, with the Pentagram design and Emperor lettering. This Mens T Shirt offers a classic fit with the crew neck and short sleeved design.
KVLT
― paolo, Tuesday, 8 July 2014 11:39 (nine years ago) link
Colour: True Black
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― 3kDk (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 July 2014 11:45 (nine years ago) link
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― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 14:37 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6A-XSRWSx8
― linee, Friday, 29 May 2015 23:48 (eight years ago) link
He forgot the diesel truck toot at the start of the song. Riffs still sound great though.
Books I can read the titles of:Eventyr (Fairytales)Wheelock's Latin.Race differences in intelligence
Dammit, Varg.
― July retires into a shrubbery. (Øystein), Saturday, 30 May 2015 08:05 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJj5S_3jOJ4
― am0n, Thursday, 12 January 2017 19:23 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymGo2q-SSOw
― Johan Lif, Thursday, 12 January 2017 20:28 (seven years ago) link