Can we talk about early-mid70s West Coast post-psych/pop/rock/folk-rock/country-rock?

Maybe some of those Alternates weren't first choices for good reason---? Real Gone usually does a real good job though, looking fwd to getting their curation of Dusty Springfield's he Complete Atlantic Singles 1968-1971 to-morrow.

Oh yeah, way upthread I mentioned that Byron Berline and Country Gazette got hired to fill out the Burritos, then the previous members left, and BB's boys *were* the Burritos, for touring and maybe other already-contracted purposes---also, they got to play with Ronstadt some, after she came off the early tour w Neil Young---complaining here, or on whicever taped performance I have (which is very good), about tour audiences more into partying, so she's really into kicking back with the deep holler sounds, in a much more attentive setting. Haven't tried all these links, but it gives you the annotations and pix at least, once you scroll past the Trio bit:
https://ronstadt.proboards.com/thread/1431/ronstadts-bluegrass-country"> https://ronstadt.proboards.com/thread/1431/ronstadts-bluegrass-country

This thread starts with or near a mention of Gene Clark, who made at least one album with Carla Olson, so here might be the best place to mention her reissues/prev. unreleased tracks of hers, and a Clark live set, as I did on Rolling Country 2008:
Speaking of bar bands, or pub rock, that live Carla Olson & The Textones album is pretty decent Words matter to her,and social life as fun & danger-they do the song Dylan gave her, "Clean-Cut Kid"("They took a clean-cut kid made a killer outta him") and some other good covers and originals, but never get too preachy or melodramatic (even the sax is okay, despite being very 80s; never gets or takes too much airspace). Oh yeah, and the drummer is Phil Seymour of the Dwight Twilly Band; he even sings lead on a couple tunes, way better than his solo hit,"Can't Let You Go," which he doesn't reprise here, thankfully.It's no masterpiece, but pretty good. Now I should listen to the double-disc collection of her work with Mick Taylor (did they play with Dylan at the same time? Any legit tracks of that, if so) Wonder how her albums with Gene Clark are, I've got those reissues too, somewhere (Clark's Silverado Live, which came about around the same time as the live album and the Taylor collab collection, is pretty decent West Coast country rock etc, pretty spare musically, tho couple of songs have some kind of purple rants in their baggy pants)(also a couple of co-writes with founding Flying Burrito/Eagle Bernie Leadon, from when the Eagles were better).
the one I was talking about is credited to Carla Olson & The Textones, title is Detroit '85 Live & Unreleased. The one I haven't listened to yet is Carla Olson & Mick Taylor, Too Hot For Snakes Plus,
a two-CD set including their 1990 live set, which also sported Ian McLagan, Barry Goldberg and ("blues harp maestro")John Juke Logan. Second disc is selected from three Carla solo albums, all featuring Mick.
Pretty sure I did listen to all the rest of those, at some point--hopefully they're all streaming somewhere.

Found the post, didn't look far enough on RC 2008---good albs:
I did listen to the Carla Olson & Mick Taylor twofer, Too Hot For Snakes Plus. She says in the notes she discovered Taylor from Mayall's albums, not the Stones, and that figures, in her taste for and skilled mining of the Albert Collins/Freddie King/Albert King/Buddy Guy-schooled blues-for-rockers-and-r&b-heads that Mayall and well-chosen employees like Taylor specialized in, in the early and mid-60s. ("For" rockers in that they allowed various Kings etc, and their sharper students to compete with and then enter the growing market of rock and r & b). It's flashy,but with attention to dynamics--one's own, and everybody else's--which goes with the rueful, restless, sometimes eloquent inventory of social tides: romance, friendship, crowds. Country compatible that way, especially since contemporary country draws so much on previous (but already ageing)decades of rock. And I could see Loretta Lynn and Jack White doing right by "You Can't Move In," for isntance. But it's more about the way the good and the bad are so connected: that's the blues of it, the country of it too, and Mick Taylor (and other well-chosen employees/comrades) coming up from under, against the tide/wind etc.(Could see 'em opening for Seger etc) "Tryin' To Hold On" builds creatively on a "Slip Away"-type framework (Carla's Detroit crew does a good cover of the actual "Slip Away"); "Rubies and Diamonds" does the same with the riffage and vibe of "It Takes A Lot To Laugh"(and/or Dylan's own sources for that). Other good co-writes, and covers of "Sway," "Silver Train," and Disc 2 starts with a an extended but thoughtful take on "Winter," yet (eventually)gets bogged down in what sounds like a too-solo-y edition of the Pretenders. But performed differently (anybody looking for covers?) most of these could work, and some of 'em work anyway, like "Reap The Whirlwind." No prob with "Friends In Baltimore," who ask willfully obtuse questions of a roving muso, until they finally don't even care enough for rhetorical queries (guitar twinges of the phantom connection: they're assholes, maybe they always were, but...)Also, on "Justice," she uses the words of Sterling A. Brown, who I gotta check more of, judging by this verse: "He spoke up at the commissary, and they gave him a date to be out of the county/He didn't go, so/They came for him/And he stayed in the county."

xpost Byron Berline RIP--also played on Stones' "Country Honk," still sweet. As mentioned upthread, he and Country Gazette got hired to fill out touring Burritos, then the previous members left and BB & CG were the Burritos, for contract purposes (there's a site, which I may have linked way upthread, that lists all permutations of the Flying Burritos up to whatever point---I once received a promo of the Walter Egan-led line-up: pretty good! Dognose who's been in there since, prob some post-quarantine regrouping being rethought now)
Once again, the links to Berline's crew a Ronstadt (sounds like it), also their own set:
If this is her show w Byron Berline and Country Gazette I heard (could have sworn it was a live broadcast from a studio), it's amazing---she mentions how much better this is than her tour (the early one w Neil Young, I think), where the audiences were more interested in tossing beach balls around. Digs deep into the olde roots and lets fire----scroll down for link to original post of whole show (variously labelled '72, '74, maybe others, on YouTube posts, as you can tell by their having the same setlists). Also see links to songs from a '75 set w Byron & CG, which poster says has better sound than the first show---haven't listened to much of it yet, but most of the links still work: https://ronstadt.proboards.com/thread/1431/ronstadts-bluegrass-country

― dow, Monday, October 18, 2021

Marmaduke's voice sounded like that of a defective Garcia clone, but think I can listen around him again, and this should be worth the effort:

New Riders of the Purple Sage’s Lyceum ‘72 was recorded on a 16-track machine by notable Grateful Dead engineers Betty Cantor, Janet Furman, Bob Matthews, Rosie McGee and Wizard–the team which also recorded the Grateful Dead’s EU ‘72 Performance. https://t.co/2LFrEsVVnK

— Omnivore Recordings (@OmnivoreRecords) August 8, 2022

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Michael Nesmith – Pretty Much Your Standard Ranch Stash

7A Records are proud to announce the 50th Anniversary Edition of Michael Nesmith’s “Pretty Much Your Standard Ranch Stash” album. Released on CD & Vinyl on April 7, the album includes a bonus track, extensive liner notes and session details by Andrew Sandoval, as well as lyrics to all of the songs.

The Album

Nesmith’s time with the Monkees was well and truly in the rear-view mirror and he needed a new place to live and work. He caught the ear of Jac Holzman, head of Elektra Records, and a path forward miraculously appeared. Realising that most of the record companies at the time didn’t understand Country Rock, Nesmith convinced Holzman to start a new label, Countryside. Nesmith would run the label, put together a ‘house band’ and produce albums by various up and coming country artists. Unfortunately, most of the new label’s releases didn’t make much of an impression and Nesmith soon started to contemplate his own music again. Aided by the power of his Countryside house band, he quickly crafted Pretty Much Your Standard Ranch Stash, a full and final RCA album. Despite its commercial sheen, Ranch Stash wasn’t a success sales-wise and it became the closing remark to a heavy chapter in Nesmith’s life, a final “adios” to Monkee Mike, to the cosmic cowboy, and to his family, as he moved further on up the trail.

Included on our 50th Anniversary Edition is the 1973 alternate version of “Marie’s Theme”. The Vinyl version is in a gatefold sleeve and printed on 180g grey vinyl and includes extensive liner notes and session info by Andrew Sandoval.

50th Anniversary Edition
• Includes Bonus Track
• Extensive Liner Notes
• Lyrics To All Songs

I finally listened to New Riders' xpost Lyceum '72 all the way through last night---72 minutes, I think---after a couple of interrupted but already mostly pleasurable attempts, and Marmaduke nowhere on here sounds like xpost defective Garcia clone, although he can sound Garcia-like, not quite pulling off some of the extended ballads of pathos like JG could, and there are a few too many of these in this set---but then he pushes against the bounds of the song, the bounds of discretion, as a cowtown survivor had better not do, in "Dirty Business," which goes on and builds for eight minutes, led by him and Buddy Cage, whose steel guitar is always a treat---whole band is ready for all the uptempo stuff too, "I Don't Need No Doctor," "Willie and the Hand Jive," "Hello Mary Lou"---though I wish that lead guitarist David Nelson had sung a few leads, considering his crisp vocals in the post-Marmaduke etc, line-up I heard*.

Anyroad, today Omnivore announced a flash sale on all three of their live NR sets:

Tuesday, June 20 through Thursday, June 22, Field Trip (CD / 2-LP), Thanksgiving In New York (2-CD / 3-LP), and Lyceum ’72 (CD) will be available for 50% off.
...Titles are limited to stock on hand, so there are no rain checks, but you can order as many copies as fit in your cart. Speaking of carts, please don’t add any preorders of new titles in there, as that will delay your order and you’ll miss out on the sale pricing.

So, Ride on and add some classic New Riders Of The Purple Sage to your collection.

Please note, the prices you'll see in the webstore will have the discount already applied to them.

*My preview when they played Columbus oh in '09:

New Riders of the Purple Sage
Jerry Garcia and singer/picker David Nelson’s pre-Dead country adventures morphed into New Riders Of The Purple Sage. Nelson, with Garcia’s steel guitar successor, Buddy Cage (survivor of Dylan’s Blood On The Tracks) reformed New Riders in 2005, recruiting Hot Tuna guitarist Michael Falzarano, plus two from self-stamped “swamp groove“ unit Stir Fry, bassist Ronnie Penque and drummer Johnny Markowski. NRPS roll deft jams and tight tunes, many recently written with Garcia collaborator Robert Hunter, who keeps Riders swirling around a “Barracuda Moon,” and curtly invokes the difference between a bad loan/And a debt.” Nelson’s subtly Dylanesque delivery underscores such lines with dry wit. Expect their aromatic hit, “Panama Red.”
07/27 @ Woodlands Tavern, 1200 W Third Ave. ,8 p.m

Here's a playlist I made that's a replica of a 2006 Ace / Big Beat CD comp:

Country & West Coast: The Birth of Country Rock

some of the tracks weren't available, so i had to improvise, but it's 95% the same.

Thanks!! Outlaws and Armadillos is another that could do with playlist tweak, not nec. re availability issues, but as xgau said, some of it is right artists, wrong tracks.

i haven't listened to this one in a long time. there is good stuff on it. sounds way better on vinyl. i mean, it would sound better than rando youtube upload. but if you see a cheap copy maybe pick it up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf-W142qnsk