The Cure boxset "Join the Dots", the tracklisting is here!!!!!

My biggest gripe: THREE versions of "Hello I Love You" and TWO versions of "Purple Haze", but no "Let's Go To Bed (Milk Mix)" or "Spilt Milk"?

I figure the former will be on a remastered Mixed Up bonus disc and the latter with Bloodflowers similarly.

(Where is "See The Children"??? "Desperate Journalist"??? etc???)

Haha!

A double disc set of nothing but live versions of "A Forest" over the years would be genius. "FUCK ROBERT PALMER FUCK ROCK AND ROLL!" Like Palmer could complain about that now, he's dead.

Live tracks? That would be pathetic, but, I guess you could tack Entreat onto Disintegration and get away with it. Lost Wishes is only four songs, mediocre instrumentals at that...NED WHAT CAN THEY DO FOR US AFTER ALL THESE YEARS.

Er? Man, there are so many great live tracks I've heard from all the incarnations of the band, I'd love to hear more and/or more clearly. Things like Smith's freakout on the 'Tiananmen' version of "Faith" and all.

The Tiananmen "Faith" is just so over the top, I seriously can't listen to it. But I had that Hot Hot Hot boot too, great sound quality.

Demos of all of the albums would be great, actually. I want "Two People" on CD.

You guys are mental.

i had no idea these remasters were coming out. i assume that carnage visors will be on the remaster of faith, which will be nice as i want to replace my tapes already!

Crystal Palace Bowl, when they debuted Never Enough, it sounded awesome. I have the bootleg somewhere, come to think of it. And each remaster should def. have a live version of "A Forest" from that year.

01. HOME
02. WAITING
04. THIS IS A LIE (palmer remix)
07. WORLD IN MY EYES
08. POSSESSION
09. OUT OF THIS WORLD (oakenfold remix)
10. MAYBE SOMEDAY (hedges remix)
11. COMING UP
12. SIGNAL TO NOISE (acoustic version)
13. SIGNAL TO NOISE
15. A FOREST (plati/slick version)

Again, though, I am biased.

In fact, I'm listing to "Maybe Someday" right now (with CD1 and CD4 queued up in Winamp)! Funny how that sort of thing happens when threads get revived, huh?

what has been reissued already? other than BoysDontCry (cause i think its the bonus tracks on these, that i need)

xpost: yeah i just put it on myself, been a few months

That's it so far -- the next set (17 through Pornography) is not yet confirmed for release but rumor suggests February or March.

i'm glad to hear im not the last man on earth still using Winmp

on second thought, no

"Primary" (Red Mix)
"Let's Go To Bed" (Milk Mix)
various "Wrong Number" mixes
"Gone!" (Ultraliving mix)
"Spilt Milk"
"Watching Me Fall" (Massive Attack remix)
2004 tracks

There are some other WMS-era remixes that are missing (at least one other remix of "Gone!", a remix of "Strange Attraction" and a remix of "The 13th") and I think there was a live version of "100 Years" that was on "The Hanging Garden" 12".

Said it about a year ago, let me repeat -- god, what a band, and what a collection.

Does nobody else hate the "Chuck remix" of "Just Like Heaven"? I mean, why bother? It was pretty close to perfect before. J. Mascis brought a new and fresh angle to the song, but this is just an unnecessary butchering of one of The Cure's best moments.

Ugh why did you invoke Dinosaur Jr

Agreed

unagreed.

Funniest thing ever -- Dinosaur Jr., opening for the Cure at the Rose Bowl 1992. They play said cover. Most of the crowd: "UH?"

To say nothing of the people running from the merch/food tents...

I think that that particular version of "Just Like Heaven" is much more successful at evoking the breezy island flavor that 311 was going for with their "Lovesong" cover. It's not all that great but it's successful at what it does (ditto the remix of "The Caterpillar").

The William Orbit mix of "Inbetween Days" is still one of the greatest things ever recorded.

urgh - I hate all the remixes you mentionned, esp the "Inbetween Days" one. What's there to like?

EVERYTHING ABOUT IT.

Oh, except maybe the fact that it ends.

What Ned said. Everything about that remix is brilliant:

- the fact that it's rather unapologetically 4/4 dancefloor fodder that still encapsulates the original dance-pop-rock infectiousness of the original;
- the synth burbles floating throughout;
- the pitch-shifting on the original components of the song to make it match the new stompy BPM;
- the all-out euphoric assault that builds from the opening and never stops;
- etc etc etc it's just plain awesome!

I agree with you about the "Just Like Heaven" and "Caterpillar" remixes, which is why I said they weren't too great.

Mark Saunders' Everything remix of "The Walk" will always be my favorite.

The remix of "A Forest" is pretty damn boss, too.

Hah yeah the Walk remix used to be my testing-new-audio-equipement favorite. Hmm, I'm gonna have to give the 'IBD' remix another spin but I rememeber hating that "synth burble" and the pitch shift used to make me sea-sick.

I just got this and I must say I'm having a lot of fun with it. It's interesting to see what slipped through the cracks for me, cause I would have thought myself pretty familiar with everything up through Disintegration. Like, I can't understand why I saw that Half An Octopus 10"/Quadpus 12" thing so many damn times in stores and yet it never occured to me to buy it. I guess I didn't understand there was a track on there I hadn't got elsewhere. Or maybe I didn't think it would be worth the money. I really don't know.

Also a grand surprise are the Catch b-sides (I swear to god I never even saw that 12" in stores, for real - I looked up the sleeve online and it rings zero bells for me) and the Just Like Heaven 12" b-sides. I don't recall ever owning that 12" either, but I'm not sure why.

That flexi version of Lament is um...nothing to get excited about, though...;)

"To The Sky" leaves me weak at the knees. That might just be the best thing here.

I am amazed that they managed to turn the Doors' "Hello, I Love You" into a fantastic goth song. It's cool that it's mostly instrumental, too.

By that I mean the "unreleased psychedelic mix", not the other one. The other one is not goth.

Wait - I resurrected a Cure thread on ILM and no one responded??

HA! What a laugh.

Most of the Kiss Me b-sides are pretty great. I like them more than the album, in fact. When I bought it, it came with a bonus orange LP with all the b-sides and that's the one I always played.

Can anyone confirm if there is indeed an audible amount of clipping/distortion/etc. on the version of 'A Chain of Flowers' on disc 2?

I just bought a new set of speakers and it's driving me mad trying to figure out if its the speakers or the cd!!

Cheers!

Yeah, it clips... around 2:24, 3:08, other places too.

Cool, thanks.

The problems I'm having are with the guitar lines in the intro souding really shrill and distorted.

Clearmountain mix of How Beautiful You Are; amazing! wasn't there some story that Clearmountain was hired to remix the whole KMKMKM album by the Cure's manager? i know he did all the singles too.