tarkovsky's stalker

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What is the purpose of watching it in slow motion?

(genuinely curious, not be snarky)

erklie (erklie), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 17:33 (8 years ago) Permalink

More time to appreciate the photography.

shieldforyoureyes (shieldforyoureyes), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:55 (8 years ago) Permalink

it's not twelve hours. less than three, i think.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 03:35 (8 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

this movie is also at fantasia film fest... everyone seems to say it's worth checking so i may do so! i amde a thread for the fest, as well.

Will M., Thursday, 5 July 2007 19:15 (7 years ago) Permalink

this is one of the best films ever!

and it's not boring!

poortheatre, Thursday, 5 July 2007 19:24 (7 years ago) Permalink

I should've gone.

RJG, Thursday, 5 July 2007 19:25 (7 years ago) Permalink

it better be not boring! I am going to see it, and if I fall asleep like i did in solaris...

Will M., Thursday, 5 July 2007 19:38 (7 years ago) Permalink

2 weeks pass...

Probably the most beautiful movie I've ever seen that looks like it was filmed in a vat of toxic sewage (in other words, this film has got to be the Russian equivalent of "The Conqueror", no?)

Joe, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 01:01 (7 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

i saw this with a group of friends the other night and loved it. it's really beautiful, although it kind of killed everyone's desire to go out drinking afterward.

it brought to mind lots of things that were made later...cube, house of leaves, lots of video games (half-life 2, fallout 3, uh, super mario bros).

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Monday, 14 September 2009 14:39 (4 years ago) Permalink

yeah i don't get why people hate this one so much, i think it's great

harbl, Monday, 14 September 2009 14:41 (4 years ago) Permalink

Actual Stalker videogame would be 1000x awes.

Wee Tam and the lolhueg (Jon Lewis), Monday, 14 September 2009 15:57 (4 years ago) Permalink

uh, see the previous revive!

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Monday, 14 September 2009 16:07 (4 years ago) Permalink

!!!

Wee Tam and the lolhueg (Jon Lewis), Monday, 14 September 2009 16:09 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 months pass...

this is like "mindwalk" with a pedigree.
― renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, May 29, 2006 7:42 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark

i just watched this and i liked it a lot, but it did make me think of "mindwalk" once or twice. but even when the script droned on a little, there was still the gorgeous, ominous look and feel of the film. i think its ideas resonate much more in its non-verbal realms than in its dialogue.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 28 November 2009 06:10 (4 years ago) Permalink

restraining orders were really hard to get in russia back then

tectonic p (latebloomer), Saturday, 28 November 2009 07:32 (4 years ago) Permalink

minor point of curiosity: why is it split into part 1 and part 2, with a separate credit and everything? was it originally made for tv or something?

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 28 November 2009 16:43 (4 years ago) Permalink

it was something to do with soviet bureaucracy. Tarkovsky had already used his whole budget shooting the bulk of the film but the film stock was ruined and the footage was unusable. in order to get funding to reshoot it T had to imply to the authorities that the film was always conceived as two parts and he needed additional funding to shoot part two. i think he actually used the funding for part two to reshoot the whole thing.

jed_, Saturday, 28 November 2009 18:18 (4 years ago) Permalink

ah. i knew about the reshooting. i guess that makes a sort of bureaucratic sense.

man, it was really something to watch, it's still replaying in my head. i'll probably need to watch it again but i want to give it more time to unspool and settle in.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 28 November 2009 19:24 (4 years ago) Permalink

it's really beautiful, although it kind of killed everyone's desire to go out drinking afterward.

new definition of "art film"?

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Saturday, 28 November 2009 19:36 (4 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

Tried for a second time tonight. I'll need to be 100% alert and working on a minimum of 10-hours sleep if I'm ever going to last the whole way--drifted through most of the middle hour tonight. I'll forgo the kind of jokes I used to make when I saw it 15 years ago. The stalker's strong resemblance to Woody Harrelson was distracting.

clemenza, Sunday, 12 February 2012 03:14 (2 years ago) Permalink

If you can handle the candle scene from Ностальгия/Nostaghia you can handle Сталкер/Stalker.

Sanpaku, Sunday, 12 February 2012 03:21 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'm kind of surprised the some people (vahid!) think the pre-zone section is good and then it goes downhill. i think the getting to the zone section is often messy and boring but once they get there and less starts to happen, plot-wise, the film is electrifying.

jed_, Sunday, 12 February 2012 03:22 (2 years ago) Permalink

otm

Only the RONG Survive (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 12 February 2012 03:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Uncanny, I tell you.

clemenza, Sunday, 12 February 2012 03:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

I ate a bunch of weed on a train and watched this on my laptop. It blew my goddamn mind. One of my favorite movies, and xp- the film really starts getting good once they reach the zone. Absolutely. Their every step becomes measured, they ruminate, they argue, crazy shit starts happening around them...

I'm gonna watch this tonight again.

Dick Townwolves (Captain Ahab), Sunday, 12 February 2012 03:56 (2 years ago) Permalink

One of my favorite movies, and xp- the film really starts getting good once they reach the zone.

first part of that sentence OTM, one of my very favorite movies. but it's brilliant from the beginning. hell, the first shot is one of the best in the film. and so's the second...

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 12 February 2012 04:47 (2 years ago) Permalink

thought thread might've been revived cos of this new book:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2012/feb/05/zona-geoff-dyer-tarkovsky-stalker

Ward Fowler, Sunday, 12 February 2012 07:42 (2 years ago) Permalink

amazing film.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 12 February 2012 17:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

Seven years after the making of the film, the Chernobyl accident led to the depopulation of an area rather like that in the film. Some of those employed to take care of the abandoned nuclear power plant refer to themselves as "stalkers" and to the area around the damaged reactor as "The Zone.

love this fact, through the whole film i kept thinking of chernobyl.

I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Sunday, 12 February 2012 17:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

I love this movie so much I can't help feeling personally offended whenever anyone shits on it.

tanuki, Sunday, 12 February 2012 18:03 (2 years ago) Permalink

If someone doesn't like this movie, I automatically don't like them. I think there's something wrong with the way they open their senses.

elan, Sunday, 12 February 2012 18:23 (2 years ago) Permalink

And we were headed for such a beautiful friendship, elan.

clemenza, Sunday, 12 February 2012 18:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

I know I should be beyond the point where I feel so personally about things outside of myself (I got shit for saying more or less the same thing about The Tree of Life on the sandbox movie thread) but I wonder if this movie doesn't work as a sort of litmus test about whether or not one feels sure they know what reality really is, or whether they (like I do) are in constant doubt as to what is real and what isn't. Mind, this is drawn from very little experience but I wonder if anyone else feels the same way.

tanuki, Sunday, 12 February 2012 20:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

also n.b. I don't think everyone who dislikes this movie is a terrible person, but maybe people who are sure of themselves also tend to dislike this movie.

tanuki, Sunday, 12 February 2012 20:08 (2 years ago) Permalink

i dunno, i'm quite unsure of myself in certain respects (and full of headstrong confidence in others), but i like stalker and the tree of life primarily because i find them beautiful. i can certainly see why others might dislike either or both. they're long, slow, abstract and arguably pretentious films.

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 12 February 2012 20:10 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ordered that Geoff Dyer book yesterday, really looking forward to it. One of my favourite writers on one of my favourite films.

I am using your worlds, Sunday, 12 February 2012 21:06 (2 years ago) Permalink

It's not like I think Stalker dislikers are bad or terrible! I just always feel like there's going to be a large gap between the way we experience things.

elan, Sunday, 12 February 2012 22:50 (2 years ago) Permalink

3 weeks pass...

so with Zona out now, there'll be a Stalker screening in NYC Saturday eve with a panel (incl Walter Murch, Francine Prose, Phillip Lopate and Dyer) talking between the reels!

http://nyihumanities.org/event/tarkovsky-interruptus

G Kenny discusses the book (and Hoberman review of same) here:

http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/some_came_running/2012/03/geoff-dyers-zona.html

Literal Facepalms (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

um, I love Tarkovsky and shamefully have never watched all of the film. I think I'm going to attempt some multiple viewing, book reading, extravaganza

Walter Murch on a panel? I hope there's coverage or a recording of the talking.

valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

just read abt that in the wsj & it was vague enough that i thought there was also a screening/talk on fri ;_; sounds rad tho

johnny crunch, Thursday, 8 March 2012 15:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

Anyone read Dyer's bk?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:35 (2 years ago) Permalink

no

he looks like a nudnik

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Ws reading his wiki -- he's written on a wide range of subjects, you know.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:38 (2 years ago) Permalink

yes but i saw him talking abt stalker w/ m kermode on bbc hds benighted 'the culture show'

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:43 (2 years ago) Permalink

& i distrust ppl called geoff

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:44 (2 years ago) Permalink

the bldgblog guy is named geoff and he seems ok

valleys of your mind (mh), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:48 (2 years ago) Permalink

in your opinion

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:49 (2 years ago) Permalink

ws saying it as something to distrust really - travel one min, jazz the next, now not only film but STALKER! Sounds like a mid-life crisis bk instead of a fully researced account of Tarkovsky and his (and Soviet cinema's) struggle w/the authorities.

Ah well..xxp

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 8 March 2012 23:58 (2 years ago) Permalink

there was one broadsheet review which was all 'less abt tarkovsky than abt geoff dyer' as if that might be more enticing

The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Friday, 9 March 2012 00:01 (2 years ago) Permalink


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