amateurist, i have a question,

Which was on TCM about.... oh, two hours ago.

The Getaway
How High
Crimes and Misdemeanors
A Day At The Races
The Iron Cross
Day of the Dead
Godfather II
The Thing
The 39 Steps
Dog Day Afternoon
Glengary Glen Ross
Nashville
Time and Tide
The Thin Man
Celine and Julie Go Boating
The Queen of the Damned

(The "nah, i can't list *that* and besides it's tired now and I wouldn't really want to see it again" factor precludes at the least Heathers and Office Space)

This has been on IFC constantly lately.

"A strange man defecated on my sister."
"Why?"
"Is there any answer I could give you that would be satisfactory?"

1. Seven Samurai
2. Bringing Up Baby
3. The Life And Death Of Colonel Blimp
4. Manhattan
5. The Philadelphia Story
6. An Actor's Revenge
7. La Grande Illusion
8. The Searchers
9. Rashomon
10. Double Indemnity

The one important change that I can think of would be making room for Rikyu, somewhere around 6th-8th place.

I struggle with least favourites. There are many films I've started to watch and abandoned (Titanic leaps to mind), so there has to be something to make me watch, and probably spare time, boredom and so on too. The first two of the recent Star Wars trilogy stand out as especially terrible movies.

Duck Soup is better than either, probably.

Favourites
10) Heavenly Creatures
9) L'Atalante
8) The Elephant Man
7) The Last Metro
6) Marat/Sade
5) The Battle of Algiers
4) The Umbrellas of Cherbourg
3) L'Avventura
2) Belle de Jour
1) Closely Watched Trains

I don't know about all, Kenan - have you seen the late ones? They get very poor.

Only seen the classics. The late ones wouldn't make the Rhino compilation, I guess.

From what I've heard of JC2, it might well be better. But the first was so bad that I'm not likely to ever see it.

Sans soleil (Chris Marker)
Desperate Living (John Waters)
Land of Silence and Darkness (Werner Herzog)
Trash (Paul Morrissey)
Au hasard Balthazar (Robert Bresson)
The Life and Death of 9413, a Hollywood Extra (Robert Florey & Slavko Vorkapich)
Pulse (Kiyoshi Kurosawa)
Crime Wave (John Paizs)
The Mortal Storm (Frank Borzage)
Europa '51 (Roberto Rossellini)

I think Donnie Darko is still my favorite film. I wanted to like Napoleon Dynamite more than I did. I'm seeing Amelie soon.

the best movie ever though is princ3ss raccoon. this is a fact.

I can't wait to see this.

Also, add Love, Actually and Closer to my least favorite recent movies.

i think dan perry will go into a coma after seeing this movie

1. hook
2. parenthood
3. pay it forward
4. american beauty
5. anything by neil labute
6. anything by ed burns
7. true lies
8. rain man

that's enough.

i did my faves somewhere else. on another thread somewhere. over the edge is my favorite movie of all-time. not the BEST movie of all-time. just my favorite. then days of heaven. then i can't remember. there are so many.

"Which was on TCM about.... oh, two hours ago."

Ha! we watched that this morning. you gotta love that ending.

long kiss goodnight is fantastic! i dunno, i think true lies is priceless, jumping a horse, swimming w gasoline, and anticipatory! but im wistful, its part of a big group of r movies i ws 1st able to go to if moms bot the tix, the kind i dont think are made anymore

10. The Miracle of Morgan's Creek / This Is Spinal Tap
9. West Side Story
8. Drunken Master II
7. His Girl Friday
6. The Big Sleep
5. The Wages of Fear
4. Singin' in the Rain
3. Nostalghia
2. Big Trouble in Little China
1. Young Frankenstein

Vertigo
Sunset Blvd
Double Indemnity
High and Low
Singin' in the Rain
Sunrise
Full Metal Jacket
Ali: Feat Eats the Soul
Crumb
Dog Day Afternoon

5 bad ones (not including obvious crap, e.g. jack frost (the keaton one)):

Kids
Buena Vista Social Club
Priest
Lost Highway
Mrs. Miniver

shakespeare adaptations, in ruff and uninformed order

1. othello (welles, 60whatever) treats the text like shit (ie like any other screenplay), plus BLACKFACE, ie a "moor" not an actual african (let alone an african american). i've seen abt 2 mins of this and it ruled.

2. ran (kurosawa, 80s): i really feel for the cast & crew in this one, waiting for hours in place until the clouds behind them shifted just so and the wind blew the grasses at their feet in the correct manner before doing a take. the private-ryanizing of war movies might make the bloody finale less special (haven't seen it since) which would suck.

3. my own private idaho (van sant, 90s) more ppl need to fuck around w/ henry iv, considering it's the underlying logic of tons of stuff, like dune (for instance) and also GWB... remember right wing learned types muttering sagely circa 01 abt W being the "hal presidency"?? fuckup lovable castoff scion + access to wisdom of several competing/mutually exclusive social sectors = perfect hero king. points off for keanu presence but van sant’s non-Sh tweaks are embodied by river phoenix and UDO KIER so there's no way this is bad. haven't seen it it years.

4. throne of blood (kurosawa, whenever): haven't seen it. placed high on 2's coattails.

5. lear (kozcincev [sp] whatever year) haven't seen it. it's probably great.

6. henry v (branagh, 90s): THIS FILM HAS BRIAN BLESSED IN IT YAAAAYYY!!

7. richard iii (olivier) where exactly did the "johnny rotten drew from this fillum" idea come from? haven't seen it, apart from the bits that julian temple lifts, which are pretty great.

8. hamlet (branagh, 90s): branagh's nazi ambition made good. pretty, funny, sexy, impressive. wish to erase all performance history before and after completely forgivable (what's the fucking point otherwise??) "heir to welles and olivier..." is their anything in freud about wanting to kill your grandfather, too??

9. shakespeare's romeo + juliet (luhrmann, 90s sometime). interestingly terrible. argued abt this a lot on ilx earlier w/ gravel puzzleworth, much more fun than the movie. irrevocable flaws maybe Sh's fault, ie R+J supposed to be (imaginatively) dicaprio/danes gorgeous...but embodied in film actuality this means you actually have to have dicaprio and danes play them which is a PROBLEM.

10. henry v (olivier, 45?) the "blitz henry." saw it very young and barely remember it.

11. 0 (someone, 90s) great idea! never seen it. ppl said it was dippy but the play's closed & stunted moral universe makes perfect sense in a high school, frankly, if you did it right.

12. othello (branagh, 90s i think) this was ok but nothing special.

13. much ado abt nothing (branagh 90s) same. worse than 12 cos of keanu.

14. hamlet (89? zeferelli) the mel gibson/glen glose one. "freudian" shit amped up beyond "revelatory" into "DO YOU SEE?!?!" gibson should have kept his murtaugh haircut since he kept his line readings.

15. tromeo and juliet (90s) bloody porny troma version that my dad insisted on talking to me about on several occasions 1996-present. maybe kind of entertaining but i've never seen it and can't have this in the top half, sorry.

16. hamlet (almareyda, 00s?) oh come on this has ethan hawke & liev schreiber in it and it's "modern day" give me a fucking BREAK. never seen it.

17. titus (taymor, late 90s) ehhh ok. taymor's commentary: "shk was like the tarantino of his day" that's a B- paper julie!!

18. richard iii (whoever, 90s) the ian mckellan nazi one. ditto, ian.

19. romeo and juliet (whoever, 40s??) the lionel barrymore one. i've never seen this and neither has anyone else now living.

20. romeo and juliet (zeferelli, 70s) responsible for more schoolchildren hating shakespeare than oliver cromwell could have dreamed. also: gratuitous tits and ass reinforcing idea that if said t/a exists in "cultural items" then you are prohibited from being turned on by/laughing at it. plus they're all wearing the same tights. nothing about this movie is good.

there are 29034857029384 other shakespeare films.

surprised too, its problemmatic historiography but not all bad, not unsexy, the dreamers

This one is surprisingly effective... and almost the complete antithesis of Luhrmann's R+J (which I also like).