so it's starting to sound like "why was the gun pointing at people?" is a pertinent question
― maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 24 October 2021 09:05 (two years ago) link
On the final night of shooting in Nova Scotia, 80 cast and crew members were hospitalized after pranksters spiked the clam chowder at the catering area with PCP.[183]
wtfOn Titanic
― kinder, Sunday, 24 October 2021 09:57 (two years ago) link
Unidentified Henry Lehrman comedy (1919). Comedian Billie Ritchie, while working on a short comedy film, was kicked in the stomach by an ostrich and sustained internal injuries, which eventually caused his death.
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Sunday, 24 October 2021 10:13 (two years ago) link
Super Mario Bros. (1993). Bob Hoskins was stabbed four times, electrocuted, and was nearly drowned. During one scene, Hoskins broke a finger when the door of a van slammed on his hand.
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 24 October 2021 11:31 (two years ago) link
During the filming of Public Enemy Number One Bobby Davro suffered a broken nose when the pillory he was placed in, not being secured vertically, toppled over projecting him face-first onto the studio's concrete floor.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxYBpZ70y70
― namaste darkness my old friend (ledge), Sunday, 24 October 2021 11:33 (two years ago) link
With this guy being a HUGE celebrity, I went to his filmography to try to recollect what movies I had seen him in, and there has only been one role that wasn't a voice-over/voice actor part: Beetlejuice. Apparently he was the dead husband? It was shocking to me because that really doesn't look like Alec Baldwin to me.
Voice roles that I have seen Baldwin in:
The Royal Tenenbaums Narrator (voice)The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie Dennis the Hitman (voice)Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa Makunga the Lion (voice)The Boss Baby Boss Baby (voice)
And of those, I don't actively recall any of the performances except Boss Baby.
― peace, man, Sunday, 24 October 2021 11:38 (two years ago) link
Bob Hoskins as Rasputin
― siffleur’s mom (wins), Sunday, 24 October 2021 11:40 (two years ago) link
just being pedantic here, but Bob wasn't electrocuted
― calzino, Sunday, 24 October 2021 12:15 (two years ago) link
Citation needed
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 24 October 2021 12:46 (two years ago) link
Unidentified Henry Lehrman comedy (1919). Comedian Billie Ritchie, while working on a short comedy film, was kicked in the stomach by an ostrich and sustained internal injuries, which eventually caused his death.― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Sunday, October 24, 2021 6:13 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Sunday, October 24, 2021 6:13 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
That's a myth. Ritchie died of cancer, but because that was so taboo the ostrich story stuck.
Among the reasons for the creation of the Screen Actors Guild: the firearms handlers were using standard "live" ammo. James Cagney and his peers understandably objected.
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Sunday, 24 October 2021 12:51 (two years ago) link
xp
I'm not disputing that he might have got a tickle, but electrocution.. no that's when it kills you!
― calzino, Sunday, 24 October 2021 12:57 (two years ago) link
Weird detail that I just came across: Francis Fisher being in the cast of Rust and tweeting about it.
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 October 2021 12:59 (two years ago) link
calz, understood, just doing wikihumor
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 24 October 2021 15:05 (two years ago) link
many xps Hunt For Red October is his best movie IIRC
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 24 October 2021 17:52 (two years ago) link
I wonder how often he, Vincent D’Onofrio and Liev Schreiber compete for roles.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 24 October 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link
don't get the drive to blame baldwin for this, unless I'm misreading the comments above
― akm, Sunday, 24 October 2021 18:15 (two years ago) link
Hunt For Red October is his best movie IIRCyou are misrecalling his best movie in 1990 alone
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 24 October 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link
my vote for glengarry
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 24 October 2021 19:52 (two years ago) link
Miami BluesGlengarry Glen RossMaliceThe EdgeThe Shadow
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 24 October 2021 19:55 (two years ago) link
all the producers, including Baldwin, deserve blame for responding to a crew walkout over safety practices by hiring scabs and continuing to shoot. many union crew members rely on uninterrupted set days to pay for the rest of their year, have pretty high risk tolerance, and tend to make excellent, well-informed technical assessments, so when they say shit is unsafe, shit is unsafe.that he pulled the trigger on a gun that was called cold by the AD is significantly less relevant to his culpability than that
― nicole, Sunday, 24 October 2021 20:58 (two years ago) link
^
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 24 October 2021 21:48 (two years ago) link
otm.
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Sunday, 24 October 2021 21:58 (two years ago) link
It’s what the media cares about though.
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Sunday, 24 October 2021 22:48 (two years ago) link
damned “the media”
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 25 October 2021 04:19 (two years ago) link
A lot can be said about the Nicholas Cage vehicle Mandy, which was almost freakishly hyper-violent; however, I don't believe there was a single firearm in the film. Crossbow, hand-forged battleaxe, etc., but it didn't rely on guns. If we have a gun problem in this country (we do), then maybe Hollywood can start to leave them out of the picture, like cigarettes in every scene.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 25 October 2021 17:03 (two years ago) link
If you take away the guns from good actors, only the bad actors will carry guns
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:04 (two years ago) link
A lot of people are messaging me about yesterday's tragedy that was an on-set firearms death (because I am a film armorer, for those who don't know).As both a human and a professional, it is extremely upsetting. My thoughts are with Halyna Hutchins' loved ones— SL Huang 黄士芬 (@sl_huang) October 23, 2021
― maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:27 (two years ago) link
detailed thread with lots of info about gun safety on set
― maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:28 (two years ago) link
that was a great thread, thanks for that.
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:36 (two years ago) link
particularly the clarifications on how real guns are used vs props
Wow, very well done, thanks
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link
supposedly an assistant director shouldn't be the one handing the gun to an actor. it makes sense. the armorer had three guns on a cart, who's to say if the assistant director merely picked up the wrong one.
also I imagine it should have been shown to the assistant director first by the armorer to prove it was not loaded.
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link
even eerier is this movie is about an accidental killing. ick
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link
That was a great thread. It does sort of broach a different debate, especially in the CG age: when or why should *anything* dangerous be done in a movie? Car or motorcycle stunts (which have injured or killed people), helicopter stunts (which have injured or killed people), horse stunts (which have injured or killed people), explosions, guns, and so on. I just learned about this, re: Sam Fuller's "Shark!:"
During production, one of the film's stuntmen, Jose Marco, was attacked and killed on camera by a white shark that broke through protective netting. The attack was captured on film and prompted a photo spread in Life magazine. The title was changed to Shark! to cash in on the controversy
Not only did they change the name to "Shark!" they allegedly moved the alleged scene to the start of the movie. I say "allege" because I also read this, which introduces several layers of questions:
Marco was allegedly a stunt double for Burt Reynolds who was brutally attacked by a shark in 1967 while shooting an underwater scene near Manzanillo, Mexico, for a film appropriately titled Shark. According to Life Magazine, which did a story in 1968 on the filming, Marco was in the water in scuba gear alongside a subdued bull shark when a great white managed to make it through the nets protecting the area from the rest of the sea. It charged at the camera crew before launching at Marco and disemboweling the actor where he swam. Crew members tried to steer the shark away from Marco with spears, but the animal was undeterred, and the stuntman's resulting injuries were so severe that he later died at a hospital. Producers allegedly used the footage of Marcos' death in the opening scene in the movie, along with publicizing the incident as a marketing push. Director Samuel Fuller unsuccessfully attempted to have his name removed from its credits because he was dissatisfied with the editing of the film. However, a detailed investigation revealed that there was no official record of the attack, no record of a stuntman named Jose Marco, and no hospital records of the incident, although Marco was allegedly in a hospital for two days before he died. LIFE magazine had no comment.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 October 2021 17:57 (two years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil:_The_Final_Chapter#Stuntwoman_injury_and_crew_fatality
i love this movie and this still lurks in the back of my mind when i watch it
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 25 October 2021 18:04 (two years ago) link
Exclusive reporting: Before the incident, a number of crew members had taken prop guns, including the gun that killed Hutchins to go “plinking" - shooting at beer cans with live ammo to pass the timehttps://t.co/TMYy00xZzv— TheWrap (@TheWrap) October 25, 2021
― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 05:06 (two years ago) link
there it is. answers a lot of questions.
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 12:58 (two years ago) link
I have seen that headline a few times now and I still can't wrap my head around it because how fucking STUPID do you have to be to do this
― talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 13:36 (two years ago) link
I was figuring something like that might have happened.
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 13:36 (two years ago) link
If true, I can't think of anything more irresponsible on a movie set. That's actually infuriating.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 13:38 (two years ago) link
Yeah.
You'd think that blank firing guns for films could just be reserved exclusively for that use. i.e. NEVER EVER put real bullets in them. It’s not like there’s a shortage of guns out there.
― jmm, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 13:40 (two years ago) link
Was gonna speculate that some of those crew members were gonna wind up doing time for this but it sounds like there should've been so many redundancies in place to prevent this that it's hard to know how many people are ultimately to blame. This is like a full-blown systemic collapse.
― (a picture of a defecating pig) (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 13:52 (two years ago) link
There needs to be a system in place in order for it to collapse
― talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 13:53 (two years ago) link
Ugh
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 13:58 (two years ago) link
Weapons handler defense doesn't seem like a particularly good defense:
https://deadline.com/2021/10/alec-baldwin-shooting-rust-hannah-gutierrez-armorer-statement-halyna-hutchins-1234864743/
It's tantamount to saying "this is not my fault, because I didn't always know what was going on."
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 October 2021 22:20 (two years ago) link
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alec-baldwin-charged-manslaughter-fatal-shooting-set-rust-d-says-rcna7189
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 19 January 2023 16:09 (one year ago) link
thread title looking prophetic
― POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 January 2023 23:21 (one year ago) link
Charges against Baldwin were dismissed and production is resuming on the movie. Sooooo looking forward to when this thing hits Redbox.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/04/18/entertainment/alec-baldwin-rust-filming-to-resume/index.html
― peace, man, Friday, 21 April 2023 13:07 (one year ago) link
if i had shot and killed someone on the set of a movie i would simply not resume production under any circumstances
― rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 21 April 2023 13:53 (one year ago) link
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alec-baldwin-indicted-manslaughter-charge-rust-shooting-rcna134564
SANTA FE, N.M. — Alec Baldwin is headed to trial over the death of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, who was killed in 2021 after the actor's prop gun fired a live round of ammunition on the "Rust" film set.The decision to indict Baldwin was announced Friday after a New Mexico grand jury heard evidence presented by special prosecutors Kari Morrissey and Jason Lewis. He was charged with one count of involuntary manslaughter.---If convicted, Baldwin could face up to 18 months in prison. A trial date has not been set.
The decision to indict Baldwin was announced Friday after a New Mexico grand jury heard evidence presented by special prosecutors Kari Morrissey and Jason Lewis. He was charged with one count of involuntary manslaughter.
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If convicted, Baldwin could face up to 18 months in prison. A trial date has not been set.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 20 January 2024 00:17 (four months ago) link