The Posies - Classic or Dud?

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Wow.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:40 (two years ago) link

Julie Gordon
It does not exonerate him, but it shows another side. This whole me too /cancel culture era of trial by newspaper article or gossip column troubles me. Just as I still am able to enjoy the humor of Woody Allen, I am sure I will continue to enjoy the music of the Posies.

Ugh.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:45 (two years ago) link

This is...involved.

https://www.facebook.com/babsmitchell/posts/10158318573672231

what is it?

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:56 (two years ago) link

That's nonsensical to me; it's like Barbara Mitchell is saying, "this is the big chance to get public revenge against Ken Stringfellow, so my non-rape grievances should have been aired out in this article also"?

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:06 (two years ago) link

I mean it sounds like the dude was severely abused growing up and he’s probably repeating some of those same actions…when do we start offering help instead of just shaming these people? For me I’d say as soon as he owns up to it as the total denial line isn’t going to work for anyone.

zacata, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:29 (two years ago) link

sic:

Barbara J Mitchell:

just because it's karma doesn't make it true.

of all the people in ken's life, there's a good chance i have the biggest ax (ex?) to grind, as someone who has occupied positions ranging from best friend to manager to girlfriend to best friend to persona non grata.

KUOW reached out to me for this story. i told them the truth.

none of that is reflected in the story that's now published and circulating.

in fact, the reporter i talked to told me last night that i'd never told her that i had been in a romantic relationship with ken - which was one of the FIRST things i told her in clarifying our complicated relationship.

this is interesting, given the fact that the the quote about his charisma - attributed to an ex-girlfriend - came directly from my lips, quoting his ex-wife.

as i texted the reporter this morning, if they wanted to do a character assassination all they would have needed to do is talk to me and kim warnick. as i told ashley in the beginning, i've had a front row seat for some terrible behavior on ken's part - but none of that involved control issues or physical violence.

and admittedly, ken and i were not on speaking terms for a decade and a half. i can only speak to my own experience. so i gave them brian olson's info (as one of ken's close friends and a psychologist) and they never reached out to him.

if you're going to claim you objectively - as journalists - reached out to corroborate stories, why only seek out one side of the story?

and erase the voices of several of ken's partners - those of us who weren't having affairs with him but were in actual and publicly recognized relationships, which puts us in a significantly different category than the women in this story.

on my birthday in 2001, i tried to kill ken with a set of keys to our rental car for a number of reasons that are both hilarious and tragic.

if anyone has wanted him tried in the court of public opinion, it's me.

i think this whole story is shoddy journalism,.i have proof - am proof - and i will never trust the bylines of anyone associated with this story because they didn't follow the actual story.

i was raped by an ex who was also emotionally retarded/abusive. his name was darren, not ken. the reporter knew this - knew i had perspective and wanted justice served.

and yet.

i am friends with all four of ken's other significant exes. i contacted all of them. we all said the same thing - "not his m.o., doesn't seem like him."

did you read that in the article?

i strangely feel the energy that fueled the me too movement - the paralyzing anger that happens when your voice is ignored and/or distorted.

I TOLD THE TRUTH AND NO ONE LISTENED.

if you need reasons to hate ken stringfellow, just ask.

just do your fact-checking before you hit "publish" or "post."

before you react to shoddy journalism.

yes, he's a dick. just not the one portrayed here.

trust me; i KNOW.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:32 (two years ago) link

Maybe I've lost the plot at some point in here, but it could also be very true that this guy treated casual flings very differently than the women he was in public, long-term relationships with. His exes saying "that doesn't sound like him" doesn't invalidate anything, imho.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:20 (two years ago) link

That stuff is all ... wow. But none of them dispute the accusations, right? Just that he never acted that way around *them.* Which ... OK. But he clearly had a life separate from any relationship he was in, and his SOs apparently gave him a really long leash, so I don't see why they would be so shocked to learn that the same asshole that treated them like shit might have done worse to any of the many someone elses they pursued.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:21 (two years ago) link

oof. yeah, her complaints are that she was accurately cited, and that her experiences over fifteen years ago trump other people's recent, specifically dated experiences. hope that she is able to accept that retribution for abuse suffered by other people affects her same abuser, and take some consolation.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link

A separate perspective:

https://www.onlyfrowns.com/frownings/happy-early-birthday-to-my-somewhat-famous-abuser

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 03:01 (two years ago) link

Now there's this:

I have made a brief statement about the allegations in the recent @KUOW piece. I know many people are hurting and please know I am deeply affected. pic.twitter.com/xnAfrgj54p

— Ken Stringfellow (@KenStringfellow) October 27, 2021

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 22:36 (two years ago) link

At least he didn't write "impacted."

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 22:39 (two years ago) link

barbara mitchell sounds like a nutcase, stringfellow sounds like a piece of shit, I don't like the posies and am glad they have broken up. case closed.

akm, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 22:59 (two years ago) link

^^^

Communist Hockey Goblin (sleeve), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 23:19 (two years ago) link

I loved the Posies, am disgusted by this story, and am glad they've broken up.

Jody Stephens just shared this on the Big Star FB page:

A statement from Jody Stephens:

I have read the NPR story and the accusations made by several women about Ken Stringfellow. I believe them. The hurt and abuse experienced by them is unimaginable. Ken has been removed from any participation in our upcoming performances that involved him.

I hope and pray that those survivors of his both physical and emotional abuse can find their ways to healing.

I hope and pray that Ken truly recognizes and sincerely apologies for the profound harm he has caused them and others. Taking responsibility for this abusive behavior and finding meaningful treatment are his only way forward for me.

- Jody

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 29 October 2021 17:40 (two years ago) link

seven months pass...

Apparently Mr. Stringfellow attempted an apology today. Sounds garbagey. Thread in response:

Ken Stringfellow issued an apology today in response to last fall’s multiple and corroborated sexual assault allegations. Specifically, he apologized for:

1) workaholism
2) partying
3) being on a “rock and roll bullet train”

— Kristi Coulter (@KristiCCoulter) June 8, 2022

Kristi speaks further on this via her FB page though that might be private.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 02:26 (one year ago) link

eight months pass...

I was digitizing CDs tonight and shouted out "are you fucking kidding me?!" when I noticed that The Posies had a track on the Home Alive comp from the 90s.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 25 February 2023 12:33 (one year ago) link

Sheesh.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 25 February 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link


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