quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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Lentil and sausage stew or lentil and pancetta stew (over rice if you're feeling poor and need to bulk up) is my go-to option when I want to make a whole bunch of cucina povera OTOH puy lentils are probably tons more expensive in the US amirite? Things that are NOT expensive anywhere are eggs and potatoes so another go-to for Americans could be the Spanish omelette.

^^^here concludes this episode of Recipe Corner...

take a sad song and make it HARDCORE (suzy), Monday, 20 July 2009 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link

lentils are cheap but not cheaper than ramen! (counting prep time)
how long are you supposed to soak lentils?

Philip Nunez, Monday, 20 July 2009 23:22 (fourteen years ago) link

you soak them until your money runs out, and then you eat them

caek, Monday, 20 July 2009 23:24 (fourteen years ago) link

in grad school you seriously had time to prepare lentils?

for me it was burritos, pizza by the slice, and mac and cheese

well I'm married to a limping, crescent-shaped abortion (sarahel), Monday, 20 July 2009 23:28 (fourteen years ago) link

I always thought you soaked lentils until they turned into money.

Heric E. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 July 2009 23:41 (fourteen years ago) link

ramen carries the hidden expense of being pretty bad 4 u though

blobfish russian (harbl), Monday, 20 July 2009 23:47 (fourteen years ago) link

1 - the NY Times coverage of health care is a joke.
2 - its coverage of poverty is mainly confined to the Metro section, whose greatness has scarcely dimmed over the eyars
3 - there is some OK-to-good stuff on immigration, though a weird lack of follow-up
4 - housing crisis involves gigantic pools of money + homebuyer angst = ding ding ding ding
5 - general economics of working and middle classes: again this is almost exclusively a metro section phenomenon

perhaps i am a little harsh but i don't think it's by much

i shouldn't really get into this for assorted reasons, but most of those things aren't true. (especially about the metro section -- which definitely does a lot of good stuff, but has no monopoly on stories about poverty or the working class.) i mean, with 100-plus stories a day, anybody could put together a dossier to indict or praise the paper on all sorts of different grounds. this thread being a fine and entertaining example. but crossing over from making fun of these particular stories to a broader indictment of the whole enterprise is pretty unfair and wouldn't withstand the scrutiny of a search engine. in any given week, there's a lot of good and serious journalism done there. (and just as an e.g. on health care, here's a collection of the recent coverage, including editorials, op-eds, columns, etc.)

flying squid attack (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 21 July 2009 00:27 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/23/fashion/23nostalgia.html

“Nostalgia comforts people and the Millennials are probably craving comfort right now.”

Jeff Taylor, a 24-year-old media analyst in Arlington, Va., agreed.

“Sept. 11 was a moment where our generation took a second to think,” he said. “We grew up quicker because of it.”

Mr. Taylor, who was a sophomore in high school on that day, sees the appeal of the Blink-182 reunion tour...

I used to find the Style section repellant... then laughable... thanks to this thread I now read it as utterly deadpan, deeply mordant social critique... seriously I could read those lines over and over. ALMOST EVERY WORD IS PERFECT.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 24 July 2009 03:56 (fourteen years ago) link

(They can’t fly, but still compete with brooms between their legs.)

ian, Friday, 24 July 2009 04:24 (fourteen years ago) link

what tips it into kitsch is that all these style articles are DEADLY SERIOUS! it would be totally inoffensive if the writers were explicit about being the fluff that they are - i guess they all harbor ambitions of working for the serious sections some day though?

Tracer Hand, Friday, 24 July 2009 09:28 (fourteen years ago) link

whereas the phrase "sees the appeal of the Blink 182 reunion tour" is a serious lol here.

"a 24-year-old media analyst"

What is this? Does it involve ringtones?

James Mitchell, Friday, 24 July 2009 11:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Blink 182 song about nostalgia for pre-9/11 would be ace.

the kid is crying because did sharks died? (Hurting 2), Friday, 24 July 2009 12:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Leave it to the NYT to reveal the new Arcade Fire album cover.

wide swing juggalo (Euler), Thursday, 30 July 2009 07:44 (fourteen years ago) link

For those of you who were wondering how long it would take the decor from Les Trois Garçons in Lonfdon to go overground...eight years.

clear chanel (suzy), Thursday, 30 July 2009 07:55 (fourteen years ago) link

funny how these antiquarians manage to avoid any brush with the classes of people who would have made up the vast preponderance of the eras they fetishize - sort of like how everyone's reincarnated from like, amelia earhart rather than ollie the baker

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 30 July 2009 09:24 (fourteen years ago) link

bet these guys go to a lot of World Inferno Friendship Society concerts

a being that goes on two legs and is ungrateful (dyao), Thursday, 30 July 2009 12:17 (fourteen years ago) link

also, can't believe there's actually a store called Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction, and that it's located in Philly!

a being that goes on two legs and is ungrateful (dyao), Thursday, 30 July 2009 12:17 (fourteen years ago) link

ok the line about the kid who grew up in a scandanavian-modern home and then "got fed up and rebelled"

there is no there there (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 30 July 2009 13:04 (fourteen years ago) link

really, what a luxurious way to say "fuck you, mom & dad! i want to romanticize the late-colonial ruling classes and you can't stop me"

there is no there there (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 30 July 2009 13:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Lutefisk is not a dessert! I'm outta here!

a being that goes on two legs and is ungrateful (dyao), Thursday, 30 July 2009 13:13 (fourteen years ago) link

i can't even decipher wtf "authenticity" means to these ppl

there is no there there (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 30 July 2009 13:17 (fourteen years ago) link

I am angry that that one guy has completely misunderstood 'The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction' but I think that may make me as bad as he is.

Akon/Family (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 30 July 2009 14:17 (fourteen years ago) link

I don't buy puy lentils b/c I think I'd have to go to a specialty/"nice" store for them, but you can get regular ones in the GOYA aisle or in the beans & rice section. They only take about 15 minutes at a boil to be soft through and ready to eat. I don't know what is the deal with lentils that you have to cook for hours? For me, they're like the fastest recipe possible.

Like most people my age, I am 33 (Laurel), Thursday, 30 July 2009 14:22 (fourteen years ago) link

wait what?

there is no there there (elmo argonaut), Thursday, 30 July 2009 14:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Discussion up-thread about cheap grad student eats. I'm just a week late to the conversation.

Like most people my age, I am 33 (Laurel), Thursday, 30 July 2009 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link

lentils in the age of mechanical reproduction

dim sum dude (s1ocki), Thursday, 30 July 2009 14:29 (fourteen years ago) link

I just took it for granted that the guy had never read the essay past the title xxxxp

a being that goes on two legs and is ungrateful (dyao), Thursday, 30 July 2009 14:34 (fourteen years ago) link

our mass-produced quirky curios and t-shirts have more aura than those cheap trinkets from China, and ours cost more too, so you know they're unique

a being that goes on two legs and is ungrateful (dyao), Thursday, 30 July 2009 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link

lentils in the age of mechanical reproduction

This is basically the theme of the big summer festival in my town.

I'd love to see a bunch of people fetishizing the past by living as members of the diseased, malnourished, downtrodden masses that 99% of everyone would have actually been a part of.

joygoat, Thursday, 30 July 2009 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm going to be a tubercular prostitute operating out of gropecunt lane. ironically.

hat for slashes (get bent), Thursday, 30 July 2009 14:46 (fourteen years ago) link

xp You haven't seen me in 90% humidity at 7am.

Like most people my age, I am 33 (Laurel), Thursday, 30 July 2009 14:46 (fourteen years ago) link

(His cellphone ring tone is Mouret’s “Rondeau,” the old Masterpiece Theater theme song, and his e-mail address is mrwooster, a nod to the P. G. Wodehouse character.)

goole, Thursday, 30 July 2009 14:51 (fourteen years ago) link

i was a fan of monsterpiece theater as a kid!

hat for slashes (get bent), Thursday, 30 July 2009 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Nothing particularly bad about this, but "Relying on the centuries-old principle that white objects absorb less heat than dark ones" is the kind of sentence you get when you let an NYT culture critic write about science.

caek, Thursday, 30 July 2009 14:56 (fourteen years ago) link

More of an adjunct to this thread but even so:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/30/opinion/30wasik.html?_r=1&ref=opinion

... (As Jody Rosen described it, from 'the department of half-baked conceits')

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 July 2009 14:57 (fourteen years ago) link

ah yes, i remember when white objects started absorbing less heat than dark ones back in the 1600s xp

dim sum dude (s1ocki), Thursday, 30 July 2009 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Meanwhile, another destination beckons, a place that courses with all the raw ambition and creative energy that the hard times seem to have drained from New York. I am referring, of course, to the Internet

(jaw all over keyboard)

the kid is crying because did sharks died? (Hurting 2), Thursday, 30 July 2009 14:59 (fourteen years ago) link

that's it, im moving to the internet

dim sum dude (s1ocki), Thursday, 30 July 2009 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link

The rents are too high for me.

Detroit Metal City (Nicole), Thursday, 30 July 2009 15:01 (fourteen years ago) link

They changed that, but you do have to look at billboards all day.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 July 2009 15:02 (fourteen years ago) link

gold in them thar internets

the kid is crying because did sharks died? (Hurting 2), Thursday, 30 July 2009 15:02 (fourteen years ago) link

a coney island of the web

hat for slashes (get bent), Thursday, 30 July 2009 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link

ugh i used to live in the internet but its been gentrified beyond recognition at this point

max, Thursday, 30 July 2009 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Blog posts in the age of mechanical reproduction

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 30 July 2009 15:04 (fourteen years ago) link

The author is a writer living in vles.com

the kid is crying because did sharks died? (Hurting 2), Thursday, 30 July 2009 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link

facts are funny things

m coleman, Monday, 3 August 2009 17:41 (fourteen years ago) link

and the fact that the time so blatantly sucks his dick just...sickens me.

nice! he have the balls to say the truth! (the table is the table), Monday, 3 August 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link


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