"virginity" poll moved to ILTMI?

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I think there were some crossed lines of communication on TMI threads that (hopefully) have been sorted out.

hose threads would have been just as funny and just as memorable if they'd been on TMI vs ILE, though

I very much doubt it - most sub-boards, including ILTMI, have a fraction of the number of readers and participants of ILE.

i think a lot (most) people use site new answers now, though

I do -- with ILTMI turned off!

Yeah, even if many people use Site New Answers, I'm not sure how many include ILTMI among the subboards that appear on the new answers page.

oh no! those unenlightened folks may miss another boring-ass poll!

LOL. With exciting drama like this, how could you possible call them boring?

hahaha complainers will find ways to complain no matter what

Mods, please force TMI onto New Answers page with animated sundae.jpg jiggling at the top.

when the zing crew weren't allowed decide for everybody else which zings were too zingy, then it's consistent that the TMI crew aren't allowed to decide for everybody else what TMI is too TMI-y.

Guys guys I made it totally explicit, right after I did it, on the thread! Post in question:

Moved to ilTIM bcz of harbl & PP's comments and bcz 'sexually themed threads devolving into psychosexual meltdowns & character assaults' has been a thing lately (unfortunately); if this is a dumb overreaction I can move the classy talk of this exciting thredd back to ILE.

I said why, I offered to move it if it bugged people, what more do you want? Is this a purloined letter – you can't find the answer bcz it's in the most obvious place?

It made sense to me that it IF people thought it was an undue executive decision, that they'd reply to that post and be like 'uh Abbott geez put it back where it was you sillypants.' Or that's what I was thinking. Did not know until other mods pointed it out that this thread (this very one here) existed.

Sorry if I rankled anyone.

i wasn't really bothered by the thread being on ILE other than being sort of annoyed at people starting 10,000 non-interesting polls about sex, but i don't have to read them, i know. on the other hand i think you made the right decision. shows up in my SNA anyway.

tbh i just wanted to see what would happen if another sex thread got moved to TMI. psychosexual meltdowns and character assaults are great fun

Abbott, I read your explanation and it's perfectly fine, but since several other sex-related threads were moved from ILE to ILTMI within the last few days, it seemed like there's a new mod policy going on, and that's what we're discussing here. No way am I accusing you or any other specific mod, just asking if there indeed is a new policy, and whether such a policy would make in sense. But based on Dan's comment upthread there doesn't seem to be any policy and sex threads can still be posted to ILE, or am I wrong?

oh you're wrong

believe me

tuomas it's not like we're prudes and don't want to read threads about how many times people have tasted their own masturbation, it's just that we don't want to read them on ILE, or anywhere else. thanks.

i mean who cares where you post your threads about sex and liquids, just post them on i love tmi, that's why you have that ENTIRE board, right?

could it be it's not the sexual content per se but that the threads/questions are just kind of......TMI. like stuff that's not particularly substantive. xp.

xp but then ppl won't get to exercise a weird sense of entitlement where they want their stupid threads to be seen by the maximum possible number of posters!

the only people who won't see it are people who purposely take TMI out of site new answers, who probably wouldn't vote in the poll to begin with, even if it was on ILE. consider that.

This is much ado about nothing.

There is no specific policy regarding sex threads and where they "belong". Everyone's threshold for TMI is different so there will always be argument about whether a thread should have been started there or or not if it is the least bit personal/controversial. I think Abbott's reasoning is rational; it doesn't mark a new moderation policy or a new trend in moderator action.

If people are okay with it, I'd like to lock this thread now; it seems to be moving rapidly towards circular repetition of the same points counterpointed with sniping and I would like to not have that.

(okay so maybe I'm too late on the sniping front)

Or, since the moved threads were polls, maybe they were just interested in getting a more general result and more general opinions? People who read ILTMI are a smaller and probably kinda skewed group, so to it would make perfect sense to post a poll to ILE if you want a less skewed result.

(xxx-post)

Yeah, go ahead and lock the thread, doesn't look like there's anything new to add.

I'm a little uneasy with the fact that a lot of arguments against this (or other) sex-related threads being on ILE seem to be a long the lines of "we don't want any more boring sex-related polls". Surely this is beside the point, and I don't see the logic behind supporting to move a thread from ILE to ILTMI because it's boring. Also "boring" to whom (I obviously don't think it's boring since I started it).

probably kinda skewed group

You got that bit right! :D

Tuomas says it's okay to let this one fall off of the Site New Answers page.

since sunday:

# At what age did you lose your virginity? [Started by touch my bum / this is life (daavid) in July 2009, last updated 55 minutes ago by Bobkate Goldtwat (darraghmac)] 33 new answers POLL closes: July 30 (in 5 days)
# how many people have you had sex with? [Started by Zeno in July 2009, last updated 13 hours ago by actually a decent question y'all fucked up with ironic bullshit answer (sarahel)] 153 new answers POLL results
# have you ever paid for sex? [Started by Zeno in July 2009, last updated Yesterday by la belle dame sans serif (c sharp major)] 30 new answers POLL closes: July 30 (in 5 days)
# TMI Poll I: Have you ever tasted yourself? [Started by "lol" as frivolity (Stevie D) in July 2009, last updated Yesterday by Beanbag the Gardener (WmC)] 41 new answers POLL closes: July 28 (in 3 days)
# what do you tend to prefer masturbating over? [Started by titchy (titchyschneiderMk2) in July 2009, last updated 5 days ago by titchy (titchyschneiderMk2)] POLL closes: July 30 (in 5 days)

can you comprehend that a lot of us might find this to be a bit much?

Too much what?

ok nevermind

I think the main issue here is the fact the the thread starter didn't ask for the thread to be moved. I think there's mitigating circumstances in the fact that the poll was moved after the results came in, so it wasn't as if the audience was limited during the voting period.

In general, we avoid moving threads unless the creator asks for them to be moved. There are times when mods will use their discretion to move a thread to a board where it makes more "sense"; this isn't a frequent occurrence and shouldn't be expected every time a thread pops up in an unexpected location, but it may happen from time to time. The timing around this, right after a series of contentious poster/moderator interactions over threads of a similar nature, is what is causing consternation here. We don't intend to nanny every thread onto an appropriate sub-board.

I'm not going to lock the thread since people are still talking but from a mod standpoint I think we're set with this issue.

too much information

Yeah, but there's been probably something like 400 different threads on ILE new answers since Sunday, so the 4 threads (the "tasted yourself" thread was never on ILE) are maybe 1% of all threads.

(x-post to Destroyer)

the idea that the 'thread starter' needs to ask for them to be moved is a bit moot in this situation, imo. it's more an issue of someone not realizing it should have gone on a different board and kind mods stepping in to show them the way.

I want you ...show me the way

tbqh i find the "we just want the most people to vote so we can get a better sample" position a bit disingenuous since, y'know, the results of an anonymous internet poll are useful for exactly nothing.

the 4 threads listed are all the sex related polls, i think there were more non poll ones as well (including the "hookers" one i locked)

I think there's mitigating circumstances in the fact that the poll was moved after the results came in, so it wasn't as if the audience was limited during the voting period.

― Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Friday, July 24, 2009 7:52 PM (14 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Er, no, actually the thread was moved almost immediately after I started it, poll ends in 4 days.

But I don't really care that much, it is still getting quite a few replies in ILTMI and that's what I wanted, and I also think Abbot's point makes sense.

Okay I'm stupid then, I thought it had ended! Idiot Dan.

I remember after the 2004 and 2008 American presidential elections every other thread on ILE was about the election. I'm sure that was kinda irritating to many non-American posters, but does that mean they should've been moved to a "I Love Elections" board?

(x-post to Jjjusten)

bush is a sexual term

yes

tuomas, it's not a tomato tomahhhto thing, here. that's like saying the bbc shouldn't talk about american elections because the anchors also don't talk about tasting their own semen on air.

I mean, sometimes ILE simply goes throught phrases were people post similarly-themed threads inspired by previous threads. Usually these sort of waves wane off after a few days, so I don't think they require any special modding, unless they turn into trolling.

(xxx-post)

I mean, sometimes this one poster simply goes throught phrases were he post similarly-themed posts inspired by his previous posts. Usually these sort of waves wane off never, so I think he requires special modding, as he is trolling.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

uh tuomas xpost to me why? i think you are assuming ive been moving these threads - i havent.